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ceetee

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Maybe there have been changes but two years ago my friends treated me to a corporate game for my 80th in one of the lounges and we all had a partial refund on our STs
 

clint van damme

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Maybe there have been changes but two years ago my friends treated me to a corporate game for my 80th in one of the lounges and we all had a partial refund on our STs

For your 80th!
They should have given you far more than a partial refund, they should have had Taylor Swift jump out of cake and sing to you!
 

bigfatronssba

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I think a lot of the tables were groups celebrating special days

They should encourage that much more.

Most of us can't afford to sit in there regularly, but it would be something nice for a special occasion.
 

GC1976

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If we make the Prem the stadium would be too small who would have thought that a few years ago.? I do suspect the owners of CBS want a massive rent increase if we were promoted.
 

shmmeee

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If we make the Prem the stadium would be too small who would have thought that a few years ago.? I do suspect the owners of CBS want a massive rent increase if we were promoted.

Considering we’ve basically sold out STs it’s too small now.
 

wingy

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If we make the Prem the stadium would be too small who would have thought that a few years ago.? I do suspect the owners of CBS want a massive rent increase if we were promoted.
Not the way football is promoted nowadays I don't think.just the competitors would have bigger better stadia, there'd still be a fair amount with similar to us now, I guess we'd be attempting to make a minimum of £1M per game, not to be sneezed at?
 

Martw

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Probably answered elsewhere but give the CBS was originally planned for 40 odd thousand, (retractable pitch, roof, helipad, rocket launcher (satire)) and downscaled during construction; is it still possible to put another tier on? If we got to the Prem, 40k crowds aren’t implausible. MA could afford it, but might not see the need to, I know, but just curious.

Anyone know?
I was absolutely convinced it was designed to have an extension to the stand where the brick wall is . But that might have been for arena 2000 , I just can’t remember properly. I have mentioned this before but plenty of people have said I am wrong
 

Martw

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I was absolutely convinced it was designed to have an extension to the stand where the brick wall is . But that might have been for arena 2000 , I just can’t remember properly. I have mentioned this before but plenty of people have said I am wrong
Also, given we are close to capacity , how a ground extension could take place given the time it’s needed for such a project, where would everybody sit? We could reduce the away allowance by maybe 1000
 

CovRes

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I was absolutely convinced it was designed to have an extension to the stand where the brick wall is . But that might have been for arena 2000 , I just can’t remember properly. I have mentioned this before but plenty of people have said I am wrong
It can absolutely be extended. The issue will be the cost and the amount of disruption it causes.
 

The Philosopher

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If we make the Prem the stadium would be too small who would have thought that a few years ago.? I do suspect the owners of CBS want a massive rent increase if we were promoted.
Thinking about this, the easiest way would be lower the pitch and extend the stands forwards (ie extra rows at the front) (Ibrox style) maybe safe standing all the way around the pitch perimeter.

Long throws might be affected though….
 

The Philosopher

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I was absolutely convinced it was designed to have an extension to the stand where the brick wall is . But that might have been for arena 2000 , I just can’t remember properly. I have mentioned this before but plenty of people have said I am wrong
I thought that myself. Would have been short sighted to restrict the stadium potential but at that time the decision makers seemed clueless so who knows.
 

ClarkeZ

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In terms of location sure but the current design is entirely different from Arena 2000 so doubt it’s easy
I'd say the structure of the 3 main bowl stands (with 90% certainty) is not designed to allow an easy extension.
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I could be wrong, but the projecting support structures which suspend the roof also provide support and lateral restraint to the main columns and beams which hold up the stands themselves. So just to raise the roof level you're having to do major temporary works to support the stands.
Those support structures also go through the external concourse walls as their foundations are within the building footprint, so if they weren't future-proofed you'd have to take down large areas of the current facade and put new foundations down inside.

It could be cheaper to start again with those, if we did 1 end stand for example you might choose to remove it, shallow out the lower tier before putting a second above.



Not sure on the corporate side, suppose its not impossible they built the balcony with something in mind.
Might be possible to push the white clad wall back and the upper tier become deeper, it would have to go closer to the roof relative to the main stands though.
However as there's support for the balcony at the moment, its potentially more possible to reinforce the structure there.

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As @Hutch11 said though, the cost would be enormous so we're years of sell-outs and a promotion away from even considering it.
Lets not get ahead of ourselves :ROFLMAO:
 

shmmeee

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If we did become an established PL team, what would people think a sensible capacity would be (given free money and planning permissions)? 50k? 60?
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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If we did become an established PL team, what would people think a sensible capacity would be (given free money and planning permissions)? 50k? 60?
It’s hard to know what the potential of the club is imo. We’re not as big as the clubs which would fill the above sizes however have a large catchment in Warwickshire and Coventry especially while no professional side is in Warwickshire.

If I had to punt, 40-45K like the original arena 2000 plans would be my thoughts (but again relies on a lot of ifs and maybes).
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Thinking about this, the easiest way would be lower the pitch and extend the stands forwards (ie extra rows at the front) (Ibrox style) maybe safe standing all the way around the pitch perimeter.

Long throws might be affected though….
Drainage issues if you start digging the pitch down though. There's a lot of infrastructure underneath the pitch like undersoil heating and drainage that would need to be completely reworked if you just dig down. And I'm not sure how many extra rows you'd get anyway.
 

The Philosopher

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Grok says (posting without comment here)


The possibility of extending the Coventry Building Society (CBS) Arena has been a topic of discussion, but there are significant challenges and mixed opinions on its feasibility. The CBS Arena, home to Coventry City FC, has a current capacity of 32,609. Here’s an analysis based on available information:
  • Structural Limitations: At the time of the arena’s construction, questions about potential expansion were raised, and the consensus was that it would be difficult due to the design of the footings for the stands. The original plans for a state-of-the-art stadium with a retractable roof and sliding pitch were scaled back due to financial constraints and Coventry City’s relegation from the Premier League in 2001. The final design prioritized cost-efficiency, omitting infrastructure for future expansion, which would make adding capacity costly and complex.
  • Potential for Expansion: Despite these challenges, some sources suggest that the stadium’s design could allow for limited expansion, such as adding a cantilever second tier behind both goal ends. This was mentioned in fan discussions as a feasible option, though no concrete plans have been confirmed. Another suggestion includes adding corporate boxes around the North or East stands or lowering the pitch to add rows at the front, as done at other stadiums like Rangers’ Ibrox. However, these ideas are speculative and would require significant investment.
  • Practical Considerations: The arena’s current capacity is considered adequate for Coventry City’s needs, particularly as they compete in the EFL Championship, where average attendance is often below the stadium’s capacity. Some argue that investment should focus on improving infrastructure, like the training ground, or enhancing the matchday experience rather than expanding seating. The club’s status as tenants, not owners, further complicates the justification for funding an extension, especially under short-term tenancy agreements (e.g., the current five-year deal with Frasers Group, set to expire in 2028).
  • Demand for Larger Events: For high-profile events like concerts (e.g., Harry Styles performances), temporary extensions have been suggested to accommodate larger crowds. However, no evidence indicates plans for permanent structural changes to support such events.
  • Ownership and Financial Context: The arena is owned by Frasers Group, and Coventry City’s tenancy agreement adds uncertainty. Past financial struggles, including the 2022 administration risk for the stadium operators, suggest that funding large-scale projects like an extension would be challenging without a clear return on investment.
In conclusion, while minor expansions like adding tiers or corporate boxes might be technically possible, significant structural and financial barriers make a large-scale extension unlikely in the near future. The focus appears to be on maintaining the current facility and improving visitor experiences, as seen in recent refurbishments. For definitive plans, further details would need to come from Frasers Group or Coventry City, but no such announcements have been made as of the latest updates.
 

chiefdave

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If we were seriously looking at a 60K stadium would we be better off looking at a new stadium rather than expanding this one. To double the capacity would be a huge, and expensive, job that would see tens of thousands of seats out of use at any one time potentially for several years.

Add in that the infrastructure is already struggling to cope with 30K is it just a non-starter.

Of course then you're back to the old question of where you put a new 60K stadium.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Was about to say if we wanted a bigger stadium, I’d probably punt it would be better to build one.

Not sure the CBS can be expanded in a big way as mooted and the facilities struggle to cope now
 

ClarkeZ

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If we did become an established PL team, what would people think a sensible capacity would be (given free money and planning permissions)? 50k? 60?
I just dont see us having that deep a fanbase, but given the last 10-15 years before our resurgence we've obviously had an impact on a huge number of people who were either never invested before or were very occasionals.
I just cant see us being a 40k+ fanbase without several years of PL football. After a couple seasons of mid-low season football it might lose its grip if we're losing notably more than we win at home.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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It will be too small when we're selling out weekly, which we're not doing at the moment.
We’ve come along way since the weekly ‘your grounds too big for you’ chants.

The stadium is not far off being a perfect fit. The demand is high at the minute because the club is moving in a good direction. Until we’re in the Prem and established there comfortably, there will be no talk of extending the stadium.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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You'd probably need to look outside the city really to build a stadium of that size.

The amount of land required for a project that big would be seismic as you'd need to build a complex to make it viable. You'd also have to ensure the road network was at least passable as well.

Somewhere like along the Coventry bypass stretch possibly.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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It’s a bit of a boggle comparing crowds from the 80’s to now.

In the 80’s it might well have been that crowds were under-declared - more actual people in the ground than the declared figure.

Cash at turnstiles, two getting a squeeze in from their mates, chairman might want to be tax efficient to top up player wages and bonuses in readies, police costs might have been less if less people in so temptation might have been to under-declare…..

16000 declared attendance might have meant 20000 humans in the ground….

Whereas now, all season tickets sold are declared in the attendance whether or not people turn up, maybe some comps and freebies issued too are counted.

20000 declared might mean 16000 in the ground.

Best example I can give is the Sunderland cup match around 1990. I was a kid on the Kop and it was packed to a dangerous level probably well over full. Ground seemed packed. 20000 was the declared attendance when the capacity, I think, was 27/28k. Have in mind (I think, please correct if I’m wrong) cup gate receipts were split. Would we want to give Sunderland a full share? Probs not.

There’s probably some AI app now that could count / calculate the number of faces in old photos (if there are sufficient photos / TV footage available).

Anyone technically sharp enough to do that? Just for curiosity?
On the Sunderland forum they will be starting a Coventry withheld money from us in the 90’s page.
 

shmmeee

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I just dont see us having that deep a fanbase, but given the last 10-15 years before our resurgence we've obviously had an impact on a huge number of people who were either never invested before or were very occasionals.
I just cant see us being a 40k+ fanbase without several years of PL football. After a couple seasons of mid-low season football it might lose its grip if we're losing notably more than we win at home.

Yeah but five years ago everyone was telling me we wouldn’t sell out the CBS in the Prem let alone the Championship.

I do think it would require us to be an established team but PL interest being what it is and not a huge amount of midlands clubs there I reckon we’d do OK.
 

letsallsingtogether

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In terms of location sure but the current design is entirely different from Arena 2000 so doubt it’s easy
Insester we're looking at extending their ground it is similar to ours.
But I remember someone saying that due to the cheaper foundations at the CBS ours would be a lot harder/expensive!
 

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