Israel - Palestinian Conflict (5 Viewers)

[Nick]

i dont get how anyone can not feel emotional hearing about the women and children being murdered.

Is it because it's in the press more that people are emotional over this as opposed to kids in Sudan, for example?

Genuine question.

For as long as I can remember there's always been wars going on with kids being killed. I'm not saying it makes it ok it's just why now is it pray for Ukraine and gaza.

 

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[Ccfcisparks]

Is it because it's in the press more that people are emotional over this as opposed to kids in Sudan, for example?

Genuine question.

For as long as I can remember there's always been wars going on with kids being killed. I'm not saying it makes it ok it's just why now is it pray for Ukraine and gaza.

I think its more the reaction in this thread.

I think you are right though, it is in the media a lot more.

 

[shmmeee]

Is it because it's in the press more that people are emotional over this as opposed to kids in Sudan, for example?

Genuine question.

For as long as I can remember there's always been wars going on with kids being killed. I'm not saying it makes it ok it's just why now is it pray for Ukraine and gaza.

Two reasons. There’s a much longer ongoing support for Palestine anyway on the left here, and the info networks for Muslim people have been sharing an awful lot of stuff from what I gather as well as making it an issue in elections and the like, then you’ve got the fact it’s an ally doing the killing with weapons bought from the west. So it feels much more our problem.

 

[Nick]

I think its more the reaction in this thread.

I think you are right though, it is in the media a lot more.

For comparison, I couldn't tell you about other wars ongoing like the Sudan one but after a quick search it's easy to see that it's absolutely brutal. .
It was the same with Ukraine.

 

[Nick]

Two reasons. There’s a much longer ongoing support for Palestine anyway on the left here, and the info networks for Muslim people have been sharing an awful lot of stuff from what I gather as well as making it an issue in elections and the like, then you’ve got the fact it’s an ally doing the killing with weapons bought from the west. So it feels much more our problem.

And it's fashionable.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

For comparison, I couldn't tell you about other wars ongoing like the Sudan one but after a quick search it's easy to see that it's absolutely brutal. .
It was the same with Ukraine.

I think its more the dismissive nature of the murder children as "adult" politics

 

[shmmeee]

And it's fashionable.

Fashionable because it’s got people tuned in and networks ready to go tho. Free Palestine has been a thing for a long time then you’ve got the whole Muslim angle. It’s not like a couple of influencers started it there’s just a significant portion of the country who care. Also we kind of made the two countries fighting so again sort of our thing.

 

[Nick]

Fashionable because it’s got people tuned in and networks ready to go tho. Free Palestine has been a thing for a long time then you’ve got the whole Muslim angle. It’s not like a couple of influencers started it there’s just a significant portion of the country who care. Also we kind of made the two countries fighting so again sort of our thing.

Let's face it, people stood outside and banged pots together in lockdown because they wanted to be relevant and Sharon from Manchester put a Ukraine flag in her Facebook picture.

I'm not sure people standing in a park in Birmingham is going to make any difference. Like most things like that it's people wanting to enhance their own profile and boost their ego for "look what I did".

 

[SBT]

Name one western leader that would describe Israel as practicing genocide and will distance themselves from a strong ally.

Why are you hiding behind the likes of Starmer on this one? Are you afraid to share your own opinion?

 

[napolimp]

It’s grown up politics. Not a petulant child spitting his dummy out.

It kind of feels like you're saying that if someone doesn't understand the reasons for supporting a genocide, then they are not mature enough to understand the nuances of international politics. Personally, I think you can have an appreciation for diplomacy, and be against genocide.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Let's face it, people stood outside and banged pots together in lockdown because they wanted to be relevant and Sharon from Manchester put a Ukraine flag in her Facebook picture.

I'm not sure people standing in a park in Birmingham is going to make any difference. Like most things like that it's people wanting to enhance their own profile and boost their ego for "look what I did".

It’s fair to say there’s an element of the left that’s zealously pro Palestine. As for me I see what’s happening in Gaza and what Israeli politicians are saying and it disgusts me. It should disgust anybody to be honest.

 

[Grendel]

It kind of feels like you're saying that if someone doesn't understand the reasons for supporting a genocide, then they are not mature enough to understand the nuances of international politics. Personally, I think you can have an appreciation for diplomacy, and be against genocide.

All major western governments will side with Israel

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

All major western governments will side with Israel

Then they are on the wrong side of history.

 

[SBT]

All major western governments will side with Israel

So what? Do you blindly go along with every consensus position held by Starmer, Macron etc?

 

[mmttww]

It’s grown up politics.

You're mistaking cynicism for wisdom again. Leaders and politicians being too scared of geopolitical fallout to assert themselves and be decent humans isn't maturity, it's cowardice.

 

[mmttww]

I'm not sure people standing in a park in Birmingham is going to make any difference.

You more of a Palestine Action fan, then?

 

[Captain Dart]

You more of a Palestine Action fan, then?

Keyboard warrior.

 

[Nick]

You more of a Palestine Action fan, then?

Yeah can't wait for the Taliban away.