Early Season Form (4 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

Forgive me if I am wrong but the season before last during the bad start there were games were we played really well but missed loads of chances and gave away stupid goals

last season we were just urgh

 

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[Chris1987]

Forgive me if I am wrong but the season before last during the bad start there were games were we played really well but missed loads of chances and gave away stupid goals

last season we were just urgh

Granted but there were also enough games when we were poor

 

[David O'Day]

Granted but there were also enough games when we were poor

yes, but there more promising signs than their were last season.

 

[TomRad85]

Forgive me if I am wrong but the season before last during the bad start there were games were we played really well but missed loads of chances and gave away stupid goals

last season we were just urgh

Totally agree. Start to last season wasn't just results, the performances were honking. There was no major turnover in the squad and the fixtures were pretty favourable.
Hopefully we are ready from the off this time.

 

[Chris1987]

yes, but there more promising signs than their were last season.

True. The beginning of last season was very frustrating . Something clearly wasn't right and the performances reflected that

 

[Ccfcisparks]

beginning of last season our expected data had us around the top 6.

Lampard managed to turn that expected data into actual data.

I still don’t think we would have been in trouble if robins had stayed but that’s just treading the same ground again

 

[clint van damme]

I get the feeling people think if we have a good start we'll automatically have a strong finish and that would put us challenging for the autos, which I just don't think is realistic.

I do think it would be better (for everyone's sanity if nothing else) if we picked up points more steadily throughout the season rather than having the wild swings in form we do ut as Shmmeee pointed out that's the reality for pretty much every team in the top 10 bar 2 or 3.

 

[Chris1987]

I get the feeling people think if we have a good start we'll automatically have a strong finish and that would put us challenging for the autos, which I just don't think is realistic.

I do think it would be better (for everyone's sanity if nothing else) if we picked up points more steadily throughout the season rather than having the wild swings in form we do ut as Shmmeee pointed out that's the reality for pretty much every team in the top 10 bar 2 or 3.

I agree but surely a decent start makes a significant difference? As I said before maintaining it is hugely influenced by squad depth for when there are injuries or players needing a rest. Nothing is guaranteed by starting well but just the confidence alone gained has some influence

 

[fatso]

That's some take.
And we didn't run out of steam really, we missed 2 very good chances, Godden missed a sitter, and they brought on Dewsbury Hall who's a game changer and that's exactly what he did.

Would we of missed those sitters if we were fit and match ready?

I don't know, but I know we weren't match fit, and Frank suggested the same.

Last seasons start was 1 win in 7, that doesn't suggest a team has been prepared well.

 

[Hobo]

Though Sunderland went to bits at the end last season but still got promoted.
I think it's just about accumulating enough points to get into the play offs and take it from there.
How and when those points are accumulated isn't that relevant.

Very few teams show season long consistency and those that do are generally teams who've just come down and have parachute money.

I think Sunderland, with their points, cleverly rested players, but it could have backfired on them. There is no sure fired way of getting promotion, those that do deserve it.

 

[shepardo01]

beginning of last season our expected data had us around the top 6.

Lampard managed to turn that expected data into actual data.

I still don’t think we would have been in trouble if robins had stayed but that’s just treading the same ground again

Sort of. Data dropped off during the winning run but we were getting/scraping results. Funny game is football.

 

[clint van damme]

I think Sunderland, with their points, cleverly rested players, but it could have backfired on them. There is no sure fired way of getting promotion, those that do deserve it.

Totally agree with that last line.
For a club like ours playing well and picking up points consistently throughout the season is a very big ask.

 

[clint van damme]

I agree but surely a decent start makes a significant difference? As I said before maintaining it is hugely influenced by squad depth for when there are injuries or players needing a rest. Nothing is guaranteed by starting well but just the confidence alone gained has some influence

Plenty of teams start well but then drop off.
On the day Robins was sacked Millwall and Boro were top 6 but didn't maintain the pace.

In the one Championship season under Robins we started well we didn't finish top 6.

Those peaks and troughs are the story for all but a few teams, of course a good start would be great, but it doesn't guarantee anything.

 

[mmttww]

Im convinced that if you want top three then you need a big squad of quality that you can use to maintain momentum the entire season.

Hard to disagree when you see the points difference between Sheff Utd and the rest. Having a cheat code of a player added to what we've got e.g. Wright hitting Vik 22/23 levels might add 10 points but you're still in 4th.

 

[Bigelvesy]

I dont believe the start is necessarily the key to a good season, as we’ve proven and has been proven by other clubs in the past.
I think the key period is Christmas and New year, March through to Easter. The games come thick and fast and the table moves drastically, come out of those periods well and you can hit momentum nicely leading into the end of the season.
Find those periods difficult and it can sink the season.

 

[Ricketts]

Remember under Tony Mowbray it was the otherway round. Fantastic up until Christmas.

 

[steve cooper]

you cant say with any certainty he wouldn't have turned it round.

We will never know.

I think the point is, we don't want to be turning things round every season.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I think the point is, we don't want to be turning things round every season.

like others have pointed out though. its very rare a none parachute team is consistent for an entire season

 

[Chris1987]

Can't understand why anyone wouldn't want a good start .

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Can't understand why anyone wouldn't want a good start .

Who has said they wouldn't want a good start?

 

[Chris1987]

Who has said they wouldn't want a good start?

I didn't say that anyone wouldn't. I just stated that I couldn't understand why anyone would think that way.

 

[procdoc]

For me the standard of coaches appointed last summer were not good enough. The players didn’t look fit to me. I know it’s only a snippet but the City Unseen videos went from them playing head tennis to playing serious little two touch games with the change in management and coaching

 

[Chris1987]

For me the standard of coaches appointed last summer were not good enough. The players didn’t look fit to me. I know it’s only a snippet but the City Unseen videos went from them playing head tennis to playing serious little two touch games with the change in management and coaching

Lampard and the coaches that came with him have certainly had a positive influence. This season coming up is the true test when there will be squad changes due to the latest managerial set up.

 

[procdoc]

Lampard and the coaches that came with him have certainly had a positive influence. This season coming up is the true test when there will be squad changes due to the latest managerial set up.

I honestly don’t see too many changes happening. Obviously depends on who leaves but think the focus will be making sure we have depth in all areas

 

[Chris1987]

I honestly don’t see too many changes happening. Obviously depends on who leaves but think the focus will be making sure we have depth in all areas

Absolutely.

 

[SBAndy]

For me the standard of coaches appointed last summer were not good enough. The players didn’t look fit to me. I know it’s only a snippet but the City Unseen videos went from them playing head tennis to playing serious little two touch games with the change in management and coaching

Agree on the fitness point. We were miles off in the early stages of last season.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Agree on the fitness point. We were miles off in the early stages of last season.

It's going to be interesting to see the difference between last season fitness levels to this season fitness levels.

 

[rob9872]

International breaks can come at good or bad times but still grinds my gears more than anything else in the season.

A good start and some early momentum with our crowd and the way the last few seasons has gone though can only positive.

 

[ccfcricoh]

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We were getting steadily worse. We know we can finish strongly, get the start right and who knows....

Were we not far worst than this last season? i am sure after 15 games we were nearer 17/18th?

or am i missing something

 

[Covcraig@bury]

Must win

 

[sotvtoday]

Totally agree. Start to last season wasn't just results, the performances were honking. There was no major turnover in the squad and the fixtures were pretty favourable.
Hopefully we are ready from the off this time.

That's absolutely right. All pre-season we had hyped ourselves up. Settled squad, easier league, etc. Followed by an abysmal start.

 

[Brylowes]

Plenty of teams start well but then drop off.
On the day Robins was sacked Millwall and Boro were top 6 but didn't maintain the pace.

In the one Championship season under Robins we started well we didn't finish top 6.

Those peaks and troughs are the story for all but a few teams, of course a good start would be great, but it doesn't guarantee anything.

This is all obviously true, but it would be nice to go into January on 39 rather than 29 pts.

 

[shmmeee]

Depends on squad depth.

I dont think Doug would fund the wage bill required to get the depth required tbh. And I’m not sure I’d want him to. You’re talking another £10-15m.

 

[shepardo01]

I dont think Doug would fund the wage bill required to get the depth required tbh. And I’m not sure I’d want him to. You’re talking another £10-15m.

10-15 million you say!!??!!

 

[shepardo01]

10-15 million you say!!??!!

@shmmeee

I’m not sure it’s necessarily the owner but …