Ccfcisparks
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Surely Iran haven't just put all their nuclear equipment at one site. I'd imagine they will have more.
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You can only really judge any actions on what happens next, I’m glad we haven’t been directly involved to date though. Also there’s a difference between trying to remove Iran’s nuclear capabilities (no major issue with US doing this if there was a serious threat) and regime change (not for us to get involved in)
So tricky to comment as we don’t know what Iran was or is willing to do/agree to through diplomatic means. I do wonder if they thought Trump was all bluster and called his bluff. …they should blame Wall St for calling him TACO ! seriously though, very strange that Trumps got involved in something like this as it goes against as lot of what he stands for and stood on at the election
So tricky to comment as we don’t know what Iran was or is willing to do/agree to through diplomatic means. I do wonder if they thought Trump was all bluster and called his bluff. …they should blame Wall St for calling him TACO ! seriously though, very strange that Trumps got involved in something like this as it goes against as lot of what he stands for and stood on at the election
Brighton Sky Blue
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Let’s look at what you wrote during Joe Biden’s presidency then.
Brighton Sky Blue
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You speak like there wasn’t already an agreement signed on this subject with Obama that Trump tore up.
Also like Iran weren’t already going to negotiations on it before Israel launched its attack. Lastly, also like people haven’t been claiming that Iran is on the verge of nukes for the past several decades.
The game here is about regime change, nothing else.
tisza
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Biden campaigned on getting the JCPOA back. Spent the term of his Presidency having numerous talks with Iran but couldn't get a deal done.
If anyone believes they can force a regime change then they are officially barking. Iraq, Libya & Afghanistan show the folly of that. The hardcore supporters of the Islamic regime are fuelled by religious zeal - completely dissimilar to the family & tribe structure of the Iraqi & Libyan regimes.
Iran returning to pre 1979 days would be a win
Grendel
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Honest brokers Iran wouldn’t break agreements. They have been breaking inspection rules for decades - funnily enough Trump with his entourage around him reminded me of Obama when he grinned like a Cheshire Cat announcing the death of Bin laden as if he’d pulled the trigger himself.
According to the Ambassador this morning our human rights are as bad as Irans - nothing to see here.
Iran is a pariah state with no friends even in the rest of the Middle East. The silence around this action from the other states is deafening,
Yeah this didn’t happen, sorry.
Feel free to prove me wrong with a picture of Obama grinning, I’m sure someone filmed it.
Ccfcisparks
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The bin laden documentary was interesting. I'm sure it showed Obama actually very subdued after Bin Laden was murdered.
chiefdave
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Hard to tell which side you're talking about here given a couple of weeks ago Iran's lead negotiator, Shamkhani, stated that a deal had been offered to Trump, essentially a return to JCPOA that Trump had pulled out of, seemingly for no other reason than it was negotiated by Obama and Trump couldn't handle him getting the credit.
Next step that was taken was to kill Shamkhani.
He’s either drowsy or just making it up
Brighton Sky Blue
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They had signed the agreement and were complying with it.
To reiterate, Iran has been apparently on the verge of creating nuclear weapons for the past 30 years.
This is akin to going into a bar, beating some random up like Begbie in Trainspotting then shouting 'why don't you want peace?' as he climbs back to the floor.
Sky Blue Pete
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What an idiot
As someone earlier up put it the proof of the action is in what next but you have to judge his decision making as it appears to be based around vanity and ego not any thought to the common good
As someone earlier up put it the proof of the action is in what next but you have to judge his decision making as it appears to be based around vanity and ego not any thought to the common good
chiefdave
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Still at least nobody is talking about the now daily shootings of Palestinians queuing for aid.
As with the bombing of schools and hospitals in Gaza we've quickly gone from Israel claiming it didn't to happen, to blaming Hamas, to claiming it was accidental, to doing it on a daily basis.
As with the bombing of schools and hospitals in Gaza we've quickly gone from Israel claiming it didn't to happen, to blaming Hamas, to claiming it was accidental, to doing it on a daily basis.
tisza
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The IEEA said they had refined Uranium to 83% back 2023- well in excess of what was needed for domestic energy production and not far short of the 90% required for nuclear weapons. So that was 18 months who knows how much closer they have got to the 90%. Are you really buying the Iranian excuse that they had accidentally exceeded the 60%.
Also what is not known publicly yet is the terms of the new Russian-Iran agreement which included defense and nuclear technology sharing.
Sick Boy
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To be fair, Donald looked very sleepy in the Situation Room.
Sick Boy
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Utter scumbags.
Ian1779
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Was it ‘sorry the people of the UK, everything you need to make your lives better is now never gonna happen - I’ve got to send all our money to aid and abet a warmongerer and a genocidal fuckhead’
Grendel
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I don’t think hes handing Iran an money
Grendel
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They were talking about it on the politics show this morning?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Good to see your past objections to pointless war mongering and killing of innocent people haven’t bothered you on this occasion.
Grendel
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It’s not killed any civilians has it? I’m not shedding to many tears for Iran.
Ccfcisparks
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Can we please see the picture of Obama like the Cheshire Cat after bin laden was murdered?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Are nuclear scientists not civilians?
Grendel
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it was very obviously a flippant remark as neither was Trump - however the point is in this instance they are very much two peas in the same pod - the only difference being this will not have the same threat to the West as Obama and his actions did.
Grendel
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Incredible. Truly only on this forum could someone defending a regime for trying to develop a nuclear arsenal
Ian1779
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You mean like Israel?
Lol that's quite the backtrack
We have a direct comparison of how Trump announces such things compared to Obama.
Here's Obama grinning like a Cheshire cat while Trump delivers a very statesman-like announcement.
I'd forgotten about him explaining to us thickos that special forces don't just knock on a terrorist's front door and ask to come in
Here's Obama grinning like a Cheshire cat while Trump delivers a very statesman-like announcement.
I'd forgotten about him explaining to us thickos that special forces don't just knock on a terrorist's front door and ask to come in
Ccfcisparks
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Sick Boy
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It’s actually insane he’s in charge of a country.
Ccfcisparks
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He’s a total sociopath and he doesn’t even have the self awareness to try and hide it.