Match Thread Sunderland - Coventry City Match Thread - Tuesday 13th May (20 Viewers)

blunted

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Wrong.

"Still, the image has long been associated with SAFC. For example in 1909 the Echo reported: “There has been a big demand for its black cat portrait, more having been disposed of than of all the players put together.”
Thousands went to Newcastle for that season’s FA Cup quarter-final festooned in black cat mascots."

On the other hand Coventry's nickname, Sky Blues, was entirely made up by Jimmy Hill who changed your club badge, the colours you play in and even the catchphrase 'Play Up' which Portsmouth had been using since the 1900's. He even took a song from a posh public school, changed the words a bit and told you to sing it which you still do.

Now that really is hilarious.
Jimmy Hill, the man who virtually on his own transformed football. Abolition of the minimum wage, three points for a win, sponsorship on shirts, modern tv expert coverage, up-to-date music at grounds, broadcasts of matches to other venues. Jimmy is responsible for the modern game today for good or ill.
I struggle to think of innovation introduced by a Sunderland manager or any one associated with the club.
 

oscillatewildly

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Jimmy Hill, the man who virtually on his own transformed football. Abolition of the minimum wage, three points for a win, sponsorship on shirts, modern tv expert coverage, up-to-date music at grounds, broadcasts of matches to other venues. Jimmy is responsible for the modern game today for good or ill.
I struggle to think of innovation introduced by a Sunderland manager or any one associated with the club.
Where do you think the 50 year craze for skipping across grass while decked out in a rain mac, trilby and tracky bottoms came from?
 

Simpson

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Jimmy Hill, the man who virtually on his own transformed football. Abolition of the minimum wage, three points for a win, sponsorship on shirts, modern tv expert coverage, up-to-date music at grounds, broadcasts of matches to other venues. Jimmy is responsible for the modern game today for good or ill.
I struggle to think of innovation introduced by a Sunderland manager or any one associated with the club.

I wouldn't want a Sunderland manager to come in, dictate what colour we play in, what the club badge is, which song we sing or what our nickname is and then leave the club. You seem to be happy to go along with it all, fair enough.
 

Shannerz

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I wouldn't want a Sunderland manager to come in, dictate what colour we play in, what the club badge is, which song we sing or what our nickname is and then leave the club. You seem to be happy to go along with it all, fair enough.
Your badge has had several changes in my time supporting football. Many clubs' have, to be fair. ETA:: I quite liked the ship badge; it's the one I associate with Sunderland the most (perhaps bev=cause it was the one they used when I got into football).

Your nickname was decided seemingly by committee.

I don't think a manager can dictate what song fans sing. They either will or they won't.

Here are our historic kits; as you can see, it was a reversion to sky blue that took place in the 60s. Can't argue it wasn't an improvement. We've had some genuinely iconic kits.
 

Simpson

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Your badge has had several changes in my time supporting football. Many clubs' have, to be fair. ETA:: I quite liked the ship badge; it's the one I associate with Sunderland the most (perhaps bev=cause it was the one they used when I got into football).

Your nickname was decided seemingly by committee.

I don't think a manager can dictate what song fans sing. They either will or they won't.

Here are our historic kits; as you can see, it was a reversion to sky blue that took place in the 60s. Can't argue it wasn't an improvement. We've had some genuinely iconic kits.
Yes our badge has changed but not on the instructions of a manager.

The Black Cats nickname was voted for by the supporters.

I was only responding to the poster who said it was created recently, in reality it goes back a hundred years.

I like the ship badge, it was good to see it back on our shirts this season.

Your shirt history is interesting, so many changes over the years.
 

Shannerz

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Yes our badge has changed but not on the instructions of a manager.
On the instructions of someone, though.

And fair enough; you know your club's history better than we do.

Yeah, no firm specification. Which means you get the scope for more creativity, but less of a set identity. I guess it's subjective which of those is preferable.
 

Frostie

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The Black Cats nickname was voted for by the supporters.

I was only responding to the poster who said it was created recently, in reality it goes back a hundred years.
Nobody said that.
I said you adopted the nickname recently as you didn't have one, as you have just agreed with.

The history of being associated with a black cat may well go back a hundred years but even your own fans, historians, journalists etc. can't agree as to why.
 

robbiethemole

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I wouldn't want a Sunderland manager to come in, dictate what colour we play in, what the club badge is, which song we sing or what our nickname is and then leave the club. You seem to be happy to go along with it all, fair enough.
talk about missing the point of a post hahahha Jimmy changed the whole ethos of the game (for the better, maybe ) but certainly modernised it. Nobody else has had such an impact on the game before or since.
 

Simpson

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Nobody said that.
I said you adopted the nickname recently as you didn't have one, as you have just agreed with.

The history of being associated with a black cat may well go back a hundred years but even your own fans, historians, journalists etc. can't agree as to why.

Sorry but you're wrong again, we did have one.

In fact we had more than one, including Black Cats, which was most commonly used in the Sunderland area for decades.

We were also referred to as Mackems, which was more like slang, and Rokerites but left Roker Park in 1997 which brought about the vote.

Not agreeing the history, or origin of a nickname, is irrelevant .... Plymouth fans don't know why they're called Argyle if you ask them and West Brom don't know why they're called the Baggies. I doubt anyone calls them the Throstles unless you know better.
 
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Simpson

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talk about missing the point of a post hahahha Jimmy changed the whole ethos of the game (for the better, maybe ) but certainly modernised it. Nobody else has had such an impact on the game before or since.
I didn't miss the point, I ignored it because I was answering the question of nicknames, etc.
 

Flying Fokker

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Sorry but you're wrong again, we did have one.

In fact we had more than one, including Black Cats, which was most commonly used in the Sunderland area for decades.

We were also referred to as Mackems, which was more like slang, and Rokerites but left Roker Park in 1997 which brought about the vote.

Not agreeing the history, or origin of a nickname, is irrelevant .... Plymouth fans don't know why they're called Argyle if you ask them and West Brom don't know why they're called the Baggies. I doubt anyone calls them the Throstles unless you know better.
And another thing, The Bantams, where did that come from?
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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Jimmy Hill changed a lot about the game full stop, every club changes their badge at some point stupid point to make, our current badge has meaning behind every segment of it. We changed to sky blue originally in 1898-1922 due to the city producing high volumes of that coloured material. Jimmy later decided to play in Sky Blue in 1962 to solidify an identity to the club “the sky blues” for which 63 years now we have been the sky blues and worn sky blue. As about nicknames yours wasnt adopted until the 2000s
 
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Captain Dart

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Jimmy Hill changed a lot about the game full stop, every club changes their badge at some point stupid point to make, our current badge has meaning behind every segment of it. We changed to sky blue originally in 1898-1922 due to the city producing high volumes of that coloured material. Jimmy later decided to play in Sky Blue in 1962 to solidify an identity to the club “the sky blues” for which 83 years now we have been the sky blues and worn sky blue. As about nicknames yours wasnt adopted until the 2000s
63 years?
 

alexccfc99

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Think an extended debate about the historical origins of Sunderland's club nickname is hands down the most boring excuse for banter this forum has ever seen
Just ignore him, I couldn't think of anything worse than posting on their forum and I can't believe that some of our lot spend their time doing so as well

Let them have their moment, we will get the last laugh on them at some point I am sure
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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And another thing, The Bantams, where did that come from?
Assuming you mean for us, three sources on that. 1) is that is was taken to represent an underdog status at the club as it was coined when we joined the football league. 2) Clubs had nicknames and we didn’t since we moved away from our black kits (previously we were the blackbirds and 3) There apparently was a chicken farm near Highfield.
 

blunted

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I wouldn't want a Sunderland manager to come in, dictate what colour we play in, what the club badge is, which song we sing or what our nickname is and then leave the club. You seem to be happy to go along with it all, fair enough.
Not today no. Different times then. Jimmy Hill created a sky blue revolution. Football was still stuck in the 1950s when he took it by the scruff of the neck and transformed everything about it. Modernised everything about our club and everyone else followed.
Jimmy left because he was made an offer he couldn't refuse which will happen to your best players, as it will to ours.
No way anyone can make fans sing a song. We sing the sky blue song because it represented our rebirth as a club.
Sunderland have benefitted as much as anyone from the changes.
 

robbiethemole

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Why not fuck off and post something less boring than your usual posts, some of your lot can manage it.

I've only responded because I keep getting notifications.
Me fuck off from our board?? hahahahahahahahaahh we don't want you on here, can't you get it into your thick fucking mackem head?????
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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You only get notifications when you come on the website dont you?


Funny Face Lol GIF
 

Simpson

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Me fuck off from our board?? hahahahahahahahaahh we don't want you on here, can't you get it into your thick fucking mackem head?????

Who are you, the board's self elected spokesman :rolleyes:

just ignore me and post more of your tedious arse-licking of posters you're trying to impress.

You only get notifications when you come on the website dont you?

No, the amount of notifications appears, as a pop-up, in a little circle on the desktop icon.

And they appear when someone quotes you.

I also reply when I'm asked a question, as you've just done.
 
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procdoc

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Who are you, the board's self elected spokesman :rolleyes:

just ignore me and post more of your tedious arse-licking of posters you're trying to impress.



No, the amount of notifications appears, as a pop-up, in a little circle on the desktop icon.

And they appear when someone quotes you.

I also reply when I'm asked a question, as you've just done.
Would you rather finger your mum to save your dad or wank off your dad to save your mum?
 

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