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Sky Blue Goblin

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On Simms, I want him to do well but I think he’s regressed. Compare his goal against Huddersfield at no point this season did I think he could do that.

Understand he’s a confidence player who I think has been unfortunate with starts being very stop start but until he gets some fire in his belly, I don’t think he’ll start to improve. Hopefully some home truths can bring him back out as there has been glimpses this season (Sheffield Wednesday for example).
 
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Speedie's Head

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On Simms, I want him to do well but I think he’s regressed. Compare his goal against Huddersfield at no point this season did I think he could do that.

Understand he’s a confidence player who I think has been unfortunate with starts being very stop start but until he gets some fire in his belly, I don’t think he’ll start to improve. Hopefully some home truths can bring him back out as there has been glimpses this season (Sheffield Wednesday for example).
He's started almost every game this season, I think. Missed a couple with a foot injury, the two playoff games, little else
 

mmttww

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Feel for Simms for one main reason, which is being asked to play with his back to goal as a sort of target man at times, when everything I saw of him before we signed him showed he's an on the last shoulder, run behind, poacher in the box type of player. He hasn't adapted.

Don't disagree some of his basics are off but I'm not convinced anyone incl. Wright showed much more when playing that role under Lampard. Doubt we change how we plan to play over the summer so he either learns how to be more effective in that role or it makes sense to sell him.
 

Speedie's Head

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Only started 26 games in the championship and once in the EFL and FA Cup Games.
Crikey maybe it just felt like it!

Still 46 apps and 7 goals. 26 goals in 99 games across the two season, 1 in 4 (and worse in the league) is a poor return for a CF by any standards, especially when he's not getting the assists either. He'd do better with a move for his own good at this point you'd think.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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Crikey maybe it just felt like it!

Still 46 apps and 7 goals. 26 goals in 99 games across the two season, 1 in 4 (and worse in the league) is a poor return for a CF by any standards, especially when he's not getting the assists either. He'd do better with a move for his own good at this point you'd think.
I think he needs a proper run out and to be given faith by a manager. I think his time with us is over but I’ve written others off only to come back stronger.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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Crikey maybe it just felt like it!

Still 46 apps and 7 goals. 26 goals in 99 games across the two season, 1 in 4 (and worse in the league) is a poor return for a CF by any standards, especially when he's not getting the assists either. He'd do better with a move for his own good at this point you'd think.

13 goals a season is a slightly above average return. This season, it would’ve only been 7 goals from the golden boot.

Simms’ first season was good, his second season was unsatisfactory. I don’t think it’s time to get rid of him at all but he has to turn things around next year.

Simms, BTA and Bassette have all struggled making immediately impacts from the bench and they all need to do more to win the starting shirt. Off the top of my head, only BTA has scored from the bench.
 

clint van damme

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I don't think he can play in the 4 3 3 system.
He's not looked great this season in the 5 3 2 under Robins or Lampard but he's looked particularly poor in the 4 3 3.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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I don't think he can play in the 4 3 3 system.
He's not looked great this season in the 5 3 2 under Robins or Lampard but he's looked particularly poor in the 4 3 3.

Have any of our strikers looked good in a 4-3-3? Haji Wright looked fantastic v Sunderland and that was it in his 14 game stint.

For me, it’s all tactical. Rewatching last seasons goals for Haji and Simms and this season - our approach to chance creation is v different last season.
 
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clint van damme

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Have any of our strikers looked good in a 4-3-3? Haji Wright looked fantastic v Sunderland and that was it in his 14 game stint.

For me, it’s all tactical. Rewatching last seasons goals for Haji and Simms and this season - our approach to chance creation is v different.

So what does Lampard do? Try and coach them to play in that system, get rid and bring 2 new strikers in or try and adapt one player and get rid of the other?
 

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