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It's been a rumour for 2.5 years now. It was bollocks then and it's bollocks now

What self respecting businessman who is worth billions would let a cooking oil salesman with no football knowledge have a go at running the club and then picking it up after him?

If he wanted us when he got the ground, he would have done without question

"Mike Ashley a self-respected businessman"

Compared to Doug King?

Has Doug run over your cat or something, you're dislike for Doug King is unhealthy.
 

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I think we were much more attractive when King took over, on the up, valuable players, respected manager, skint desperate owners. If we couldn’t get any serious offers then I’m not sure why we would now. Would love to know why though, on paper we’re a good investment. One club town, decent sized stadium, one season from the big money.
 

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I think we were much more attractive when King took over, on the up, valuable players, respected manager, skint desperate owners. If we couldn’t get any serious offers then I’m not sure why we would now. Would love to know why though, on paper we’re a good investment. One club town, decent sized stadium, one season from the big money.
To play devils advocate you could say that the club has now proven that it can have near sell out crowds most weeks, a lot of the off field heavy lifting has been done ( training ground, clubs commercial offer, professional playing infrastructure ) and it has £40-50m in playing assets.

However I do agree most new owners go after a club that is on its knees as they get it for a knock down price.
 
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I think we were much more attractive when King took over, on the up, valuable players, respected manager, skint desperate owners. If we couldn’t get any serious offers then I’m not sure why we would now. Would love to know why though, on paper we’re a good investment. One club town, decent sized stadium, one season from the big money.
Well we were not that attractive as we were for sale for years before we found a buyer or at least one Sisu would deal with.
 

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We weren’t for sale for years. Sisu repeatedly said the club wasn’t for sale until the top of the cycle.
Trust me they were desperate to find a buyer for years before King took the club. Hoffman tried on more than one occasion but a combination of valuation differences and personality clashes got in the way.

The first rule of selling anything is to pretend you don’t wish to.
 

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Trust me they were desperate to find a buyer for years before King took the club. Hoffman tried on more than one occasion but a combination of valuation differences and personality clashes got in the way.

The first rule of selling anything is to pretend you don’t wish to.

They were desperate but were bothered by the personality of the buyer?

If this is true it just goes back to my original question of why can’t we attract investment?
 
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shmmeee

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It's got nothing to do with advertising.

Feel free to explain how it isn’t incoherent nonsense made up to sound smart. I’ve read a lot of sales stuff and “pretend you don’t want to sell” isn’t mentioned once, but I’m sure you, a man who sells advertising services to companies has an explanation.
 

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Feel free to explain how it isn’t incoherent nonsense made up to sound smart. I’ve read a lot of sales stuff and “pretend you don’t want to sell” isn’t mentioned once, but I’m sure you, a man who sells advertising services to companies has an explanation.
It's a basic opening negotiation stance.
 

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While I never bought any of the crap about it all being a setup for him to buy from King from the start (makes no sense, complete bollocks.) Ego may bring him back around to owning a football club, wouldn't entirely rule it out.
 

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I think we were much more attractive when King took over, on the up, valuable players, respected manager, skint desperate owners. If we couldn’t get any serious offers then I’m not sure why we would now. Would love to know why though, on paper we’re a good investment. One club town, decent sized stadium, one season from the big money.
Because there was a £60m/£70m debt owed to SISU (or who ever their parent company was).

King has cleared that (probably due to business dealings with SISU on the cheap) - like it or not he would be part of the answer to getting a “good” owner.

So he's done a great deal of securing the future of the club already.
 
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It's been a rumour for 2.5 years now. It was bollocks then and it's bollocks now

What self respecting businessman who is worth billions would let a cooking oil salesman with no football knowledge have a go at running the club and then picking it up after him?

If he wanted us when he got the ground, he would have done without question
Bit Harsh, cooking oil salesman? - if its true he has made £400 million from cooking oil then I think wed all fancy a bit of that!!
 

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King maybe ain't the messiah but 'he bought Sisu out', and is clearly a decent businessman. He has stabilisd the club and we should be grateful. Lord knows where we would be if SISU still in charge. Time to be able to fully judge is a year or so once FL settled in.
 

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Ashley at Newcastle is a funny one. Yes he was derided by the fan base and the Sports Direct branding round St James's Park looked awful (although better than insect pics tbf) but I'm sure when I looked before the spend on transfers when he was there was similar to their income from transfers.
 

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Ashley at Newcastle is a funny one. Yes he was derided by the fan base and the Sports Direct branding round St James's Park looked awful (although better than insect pics tbf) but I'm sure when I looked before the spend on transfers when he was there was similar to their income from transfers.
A net zero spend on transfers makes it impossible to compete in the Premier League, and so it proved. Ashley set the club back a decade.
 

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Helicopter was making regular visits about a month ago, not a hotbed of activity usually.
 

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Rumours going around yesterday that Ashley is getting involved??? I’m guessing investment if any truth in it. Probably more BS though!!!

He never invested his money in Newcastle, just recycled their money.
 

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Ashley clearly has made a lot of money but isn’t exactly a sensible businessman. Read how Alan Pardew ended up with an 8 year contract at Newcastle
 

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It's worth reading the accounts of Coventry City's holding company CovCityCo Ltd.

They do set out a number of objectives the club is pursuing including transfer balances and an intriguing statement about researching and developing injury rehabilitation and performance tracking capabilities. There is also a statement about the owner having the financial wherewithal to deal with the unlikely event of demotion to league one. Profit on player sales till May 23 was only £40k but those figures do not include Viktor Gyökeres or Gustavo Hamer transfers out and any subsequent transfers in. Turnover was £11.1m, salaries were £8.8m, losses were £4mm there is a £6m loan being paid back.

 

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