Frank Lampard Rumours (4 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Since it seems this is happening. Thought to post some tactics insights.

Frank Lampard at Derby County

After reaching the Championship play-off semi-final in the 2017/18 season, Derby County have elected to take a risk in appointing their new manager, Frank

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[napolimp]

I'm very normally a fence kind of guy. We've spent money that we've earned and absolute worse case scenario, I think we get our money back if we needed to.

Wright would go for 8mil, Simms for 4mil, MvE for 4mil, etc etc.

I'm not saying we sell for that price and we could also lose money on players but I think we would get back everything Robins has spent.

Under Lampard, we sign players like Cantwell (doing well right now), 4 year contracts as top earners. 3/4/5 of those and we are f*cked.

Everyone else seems to be able to give their strong opinions. Signing Lampard will ruin everything. Mark my words, Lampard is not a manager.

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The appointment will be head coach, so they won't be signing any players. They'll just be asked to work with the squad they're given, and the recruitment team/director of football will take care of signings.

 

[Cov kid 55]

Bookmark it baby because I know I'm right. Bring it on, I won't shy away. He is living off his name and is a sorry excuse for a manager.

It's not because I won't let the Robins sacking go. Lampard is everything what we don't need.

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Not sure, think he’s serious about football as a career, did well at Derby and was then over promoted. Think he may well succeed with someone. I’m prepared to give him a chance rather than writing him off.

 

[Cally Fedora]

Why not take over from him and show us how much you know about football and business ?

OK, will you let him know? I’d need to work from home on Tuesdays.

 

[rob9872]

Not sure, think he’s serious about football as a career, did well at Derby and was then over promoted. Think he may well succeed with someone. I’m prepared to give him a chance rather than writing him off.

Did ok I'd say, not well at Derby, and that was on the strength of some real quality loans. Not the raw kids we've had on loan, also because he knew them already. Those options have now gone for him too and Doug doesn't like loans we're told anyway.

What I've said all along regardless of the manager is that our side doesn't lack quality. It lacks experience, knowhow, and leadership. Those ingredients are fundamental to success in almost every side.

It's not appointing Lampard that's the issue, I don't see what he could do or anyone else, different to Robins. It's the constraints of the role that's a bigger problem.

 

[Frankly_Mr_Shankly]

The appointment will be head coach, so they won't be signing any players. They'll just be asked to work with the squad they're given, and the recruitment team/director of football will take care of signings.

I think someone like Lampard would want a say in who they sign and would probably give the final word on whether that happens or not. The recruitment team will be instructed to what players are required and they will present what they’ve found to him.

 

[Evo1883]

The appointment will be head coach, so they won't be signing any players. They'll just be asked to work with the squad they're given, and the recruitment team/director of football will take care of signings.

That's basically what's been going on here for over a year anyway , Robins saying yes on signings is simply a way to make him think he still had the say .. the oliver dovin signing proved he doesn't pick these players anymore and he had been moved ro a head coach role slowly but surely in all but name anyway

 

[stupot07]

Spoke to my Everton supporting mate get his opinion given every time you mention Everton on here, people seem to think he was blameless. He said despite the club being a bit of a basket case Lampard was garbage, and under achieved.

 

[Evo1883]

Spoke to my Everton supporting mate get his opinion given every time you mention Everton on here, people seem to think he was blameless. He said despite the club being a bit of a basket case Lampard was garbage, and under achieved.

He was out of his depth there

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

He was out of his depth there

Heard a Derby fan go on our about him running without learning to walk.

Was clearly out of depth there (can’t blame him for the caretaker Chelsea period as those players didn’t give a shit). We could be a good project to help develop him and vice versa.

 

[stupot07]

Heard a Derby fan go on our about him running without learning to walk.

Was clearly out of depth there (can’t blame him for the caretaker Chelsea period as those players didn’t give a shit). We could be a good project to help develop him and vice versa.

What he should have done is gone and been someone's number 2. Achieved about par at Derby, initially did about par at Chelsea before failing, failed at Everton, then went back and failed as caretaker at Chelsea

No thanks, I want someone on the up, who wants to take the project on for 3+ years, not someone who will see us purely as a temporary stepping stone, Lampard will be gone with 12 months.

 

[Tommo1993]

I would fucking hate to be told “you’ve no real say or authority in recruitment, here’s the players, now succeed”.

 

[Evo1883]

I would fucking hate to be told “you’ve no real say or authority in recruitment, here’s the players, now succeed”.

The modern game

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

What he should have done is gone and been someone's number 2. Achieved about par at Derby, initially did about par at Chelsea before failing, failed at Everton, then went back and failed as caretaker at Chelsea

No thanks, I want someone on the up, who wants to take the project on for 3+ years, not someone who will see us purely as a temporary stepping stone, Lampard will be gone with 12 months.

Think when you consider where Chelsea were when he took over and the fact he couldn’t sign players and actually developed players from the academy especially in the first year I would say he did well.

On the stepping stone point, it’s hard to find someone who is loyal in football but think you’d have better luck than someone when’s been burned by bad moves before rather than someone who has already ditched a club to come to us.

Also the failure points an interesting one, At Everton Rafa also failed with the same team. And closer to home, Mark (who I’ve put on record how good he was for us) failed at Huddersfield and Scunthorpe. Past failures don’t guarantee future ones and vice versa.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Think when you consider where Chelsea were when he took over and the fact he couldn’t sign players and actually developed players from the academy especially in the first year I would say he did well.

On the stepping stone point, it’s hard to find someone who is loyal in football but think you’d have better luck than someone when’s been burned by bad moves before rather than someone who has already ditched a club to come to us.

Also the failure points an interesting one, At Everton Rafa also failed with the same team. And closer to home, Mark (who I’ve put on record how good he was for us) failed at Huddersfield and Scunthorpe. Past failures don’t guarantee future ones and vice versa.

If he was on par in his first year then his second year at Chelsea was an absolute failure

 

[Tommo1993]

I think for many of us nobody is going to be a good enough replacement. Just gonna have to get on with it.

 

[napolimp]

Also the failure points an interesting one, At Everton Rafa also failed with the same team. And closer to home, Mark (who I’ve put on record how good he was for us) failed at Huddersfield and Scunthorpe. Past failures don’t guarantee future ones and vice versa.

Good point, needs to be a good fit for this club, and the situation it is in. The appointment is crucial, he needs to make sure he gets it right.

 

[shmmeee]

Even with his lack of experience he’d be the only person in the entire setup who had done his role before.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s also possible for managers to grow and learn in the same way players do. Rooney has learnt nothing, I expect Lampard probably has.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

It’s also possible for managers to grow and learn in the same way players do. Rooney has learnt nothing, I expect Lampard probably has.

How has Rooney learnt nothing

 

[Otis]

I would much rather it be someone who is NOT a name. Undoubtedly, we will always be introduced as Frank Lampard's Coventry City.

Much rather have a great coach rather than a name and a name that has failed previously.

We need someone on the way up, rather than on the way down, or stagnated.

He's been out of work for over a year now.

Really like the bloke as an individual and loved him as a player, but he's just not done it at management level and it seems like a retrograde step.

If he comes, I will back him of course, but do feel it will end up with us going backwards and having to start again in 12 months.

MR gave us stability and I think that's huge.

Would prefer a young up and coming, successful manager, who could be here for the long haul

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

How has Rooney learnt nothing

Check out his post match interview from Plymouth’s opening game

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

If he was on par in his first year then his second year at Chelsea was an absolute failure

I mean there were only 9th. I understand they should have been higher but absolute failure seems strong.

Footballs a game of perceptive I guess. Who would you be looking at in that regard. Ruben Selles would be my pick but curious on yours?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I mean there were only 9th. I understand they should have been higher but absolute failure seems strong.

Footballs a game of perceptive I guess. Who would you be looking at in that regard. Ruben Selles would be my pick but curious on yours?

Only 9th? He had spent £220m.

Probably someone like Selles, Corberan if West Brom get fed up of this rot they’re on or Edwards

 

[baldy]

I would much rather it be someone who is NOT a name. Undoubtedly, we will always be introduced as Frank Lampard's Coventry City.

Much rather have a great coach rather than a name and a name that has failed previously.

We need someone on the way up, rather than on the way down, or stagnated.

He's been out of work for over a year now.

Really like the bloke as an individual and loved him as a player, but he's just not done it at management level and it seems like a retrograde step.

If he comes, I will back him of course, but do feel it will end up with us going backwards and having to start again in 12 months.

MR gave us stability and I think that's huge.

Would prefer a young up and coming, successful manager, who could be here for the long haul

There's loads of managers who've probably been out of a job for a year or more plus I don't reckon he's actually been a manager that long to be considered 'on the way down'

 

[baldy]

Only 9th? He had spent £220m.

Probably someone like Selles, Corberan if West Brom get fed up of this rot they’re on or Edwards

Edwards wouldn't appeal to me based purely on his hoofball tactics with Luton

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Edwards wouldn't appeal to me based purely on his hoofball tactics with Luton

How did he try to get Watford to play?

 

[bigfatronssba]

I would much rather it be someone who is NOT a name. Undoubtedly, we will always be introduced as Frank Lampard's Coventry City.

In fairness that is what we became over the last 7 years. Coventry City is never mentioned without Mark Robins being included

 

[Ibby]

He has struggled in few job off late.

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

Ashley or Joe?

Ashley

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

How has Rooney learnt nothing

Weird thing is - Rooney’s ideas are fine. I read something that at Birmingham he tried to push a full passing game. But the players weren’t able to play this game.

what Eustace managed to do was recognise the players limitations and work around them.

Rooney obviously didn’t compromise his principles, and ultimately it cost him the job, I’d imagine it’s the same at Plymouth.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Since it seems this is happening. Thought to post some tactics insights.

Frank Lampard at Derby County

After reaching the Championship play-off semi-final in the 2017/18 season, Derby County have elected to take a risk in appointing their new manager, Frank

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Can you show the tactical analysis from his Everton spell and second spell at Chelsea?

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

Any pics?

No , I was up in Sunderland with grandson who had a text from u18 players dad.

 

[Super Graham Withey]

In fairness that is what we became over the last 7 years. Coventry City is never mentioned without Mark Robins being included

Which tells all you need to know about what others thought about the job that Robins did here

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Weird thing is - Rooney’s ideas are fine. I read something that at Birmingham he tried to push a full passing game. But the players weren’t able to play this game.

what Eustace managed to do was recognise the players limitations and work around them.

Rooney obviously didn’t compromise his principles, and ultimately it cost him the job, I’d imagine it’s the same at Plymouth.

The problem remains that he was a player who was supremely talented, but he’s working with players who are nowhere near that level and it seems he just loses patience with them not being able to do what came naturally to him.

He’d funnily enough be better off in the top flight.