Basically if they give the ball away twice or more in that time span it’s usually a good indicator
Yeah, I think most people though have 6 as average and 5 as below average.
Just seems to be the normal benchmark for some reason.
I tried 5 as average once and it didn't quite feel right.
Don’t think I ever mentioned him specifically, but think last night was a pretty good illustration of how you can slot in a passenger or two against sufficiently weak opposition without it ever harming your chances of winning the game.
I'm conditioned to rate players like they would be in FM
Collins 6.6
Eccles 6.6
Thomas 6.8
Lati 8
Kitching 7
Bidwell 6.8
Kelly 6.6
Torp 6.6
Wright 6.6
Palmer 6.6
Simms 9
Tavares 6.9
Godden 6
O'Hare 6
Andrews 6
MVE 6
Collins 6.6
Eccles 6.6
Thomas 6.8
Lati 8
Kitching 7
Bidwell 6.8
Kelly 6.6
Torp 6.6
Wright 6.6
Palmer 6.6
Simms 9
Tavares 6.9
Godden 6
O'Hare 6
Andrews 6
MVE 6
What? He looks pretty fast to me and a sharp finisher. Whether he has the control and strength to become a regular at this level remains to be seen.
You think we might have lost last night if Andrews had started? Personally I think we would have been just fine.
I think Torp is feeling the effects of an intensive fixture schedule after not having played for weeks, his best is probably going to come in future seasons
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It’s well and good coming out with this after a good performance against Rotherham playing wingback. Where was he against PNE and WBA?
It’s against these kinds of teams we particularly miss Sheaf and that’s where Eccles needs to get to.
Agree - he’s also just come off a domestic season in Norway. He had a 5 week break but without a preseason so it’s a tough introduction to English football.
It’s well and good coming out with this after a good performance against Rotherham playing wingback. Where was he against PNE and WBA?
It’s against these kinds of teams we particularly miss Sheaf and that’s where Eccles needs to get to.
Agree - he’s also just come off a domestic season in Norway. He had a 5 week break but without a preseason so it’s a tough introduction to English football.
The frustration for me with Eccles at CM is I feel he’s got more in his locker in terms of drive, passing range and set pieces but we just don’t see it on a consistent basis. I like him at RWB, he uses the ball well and is good defensively as well as athletic. I worry he’s got nothing outstanding in any position to really nail down a place.
I wouldn’t stress it too much. I’m not rounding up, so Fabio was like a 7.0 while Simms was an 8.8. I thought I’d be too harsh on Tavares to give him a 6, he did what he’s being put out there to do!
Ive never met him but I think Pete is deceptively slowNo.
Must be just you, Pete.
Well it's the middle of the rating range. I can't see how any other rating can be classed as average.
Agreed! If Eccles had finished off the move from Kitching’s pass it’s a GOTS contender! As for Bidwell, he looked energised and had a fine game - as much as JDS’ introduction to the team was criticised I felt Bidwell looked tired before that little run of games.
Was always going to be the way i suppose. If we'd kept on it and put another 3 or 4 past them then the crowd probably would've stayed engaged. As it was, it was just a full second half where the players showed the game was already over. Wouldn't leave myself but never going to keep everyone pumped up.
He has that ability to turn on the afterburners, definitely. We saw that for his first against Maidstone, after that through ball from Godden. He was off like a whippet.
Simms scores a first half hattrick and he's only "maybe pushing an 8" just for that half? What else can the man do? 3 goals from his first 3 shots inside 40 mins, giving himself and the team the opportunity to ease off second half and save the legs.
I don’t quite understand, what do you mean? After Norwich I thought Bidwell had his worst game in a while for us. As it happens, JDS had his best game for us against Wednesday and didn’t do much wrong in the next 2 games.
IMO, Bidwell probably should’ve come back into the team after Stoke away.
His first touch was atrocious and passing not great, so as per my ratings explanation, he wasn't worthy if being labelled "exceptional" - a 9.
He scored a hattrick, who gives a shit about the rest.
Exactly.
There's seems to be a strange obsession with nice clean technical play (godden?) Instead of effective players amongst a section of the fanbase.
I think it was the fact he gave the ball away 2 times in 3 mins. Shame he didn't get 20 mins as that would have been a more useful yardstick. I suspect he will be one to look put for in pre season and maybe a candidate to have a decent loan?
Christ, he scored a hattrick.
If he did that every week he'd end the season with 138 league goals. I guess that would only be very good, not exceptional?
His first touch is erratic but he did three or four lovely lay offs. He actually laid it off just in his own half to Wright. Then turned and ran into the penalty area to score his second goal with a first time shot.
There was one that really got away from him, but in fairness the pass from Torp was really rifled at him. So it isn't always his fault.
But agree generally in that it is an area of his game he still needs to work at.
