Gaz
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Chum ? Ah yes me and my mate Thorn went drinking together all day, he used to cancel training for the players so we could.
But sshh, that's just between us ok... Chum.
If SISU had Balls & Backbone.....It could of been - (3 Viewers)
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Chum ? Ah yes me and my mate Thorn went drinking together all day, he used to cancel training for the players so we could.
But sshh, that's just between us ok... Chum.
Martin180
Well-Known Member
I dont think Coleman was a particularily good manager but under his tenure we had a positive transfer policy and a half decent way of playing .I think the last decent memory is of us playing Newcastle ,Blackburn and Chelsea in front of full houses .
Somewhere amongst his tenure the rent became an issue and SISU started selling our assets and not backing CC in the market,if i`m not wrong i think we wanted Beckford,Gudmundsson,Driver and other "available" cheap talent .
As for the AB apologists , give me strength :facepalm:
Somewhere amongst his tenure the rent became an issue and SISU started selling our assets and not backing CC in the market,if i`m not wrong i think we wanted Beckford,Gudmundsson,Driver and other "available" cheap talent .
As for the AB apologists , give me strength :facepalm:
there was no chance of us getting carroll because we didnt have the finances to do it ........ Ranson can say what he likes but the bottom line was we didnt have the money
its easy for him to say SISU wouldnt spend the money........ my guess is that due to his lack of success they had spent what he and they budgetted and a bit more.... at some point you have to say no. Easy to blame SISU when in actual fact they let him do anything he wanted right up to the point their investors said "no more we dont see it working" Dont forget under Ranson we lost something like £20m even after selling Dann & Fox ! dont forget he was the CEO the man with his finger on all the figures...... he knew if we could afford the deal or not, but that doesnt deflect responsibilty though does it Ray
Just to be clear the plan was always to bring in players and sell them on .......... which is what they have done consistently....... it is the only way to keep CCFC afloat .......... the squad of players above was always unlikely to be playing together for long if at all.
ps some of those players were not even on Colemans radar .......... or available to him
Utter bilge as per.
According to you SISU is the best thing that has ever happened to this club!
After all the years of crap we have had to put up with you STILL defend them!
Its clear for anyone to see that once ranson went, the quality of players brought in fell dramatically. If you are so blinkered you don't see that or just refuse to accept blatant facts, then there is no hope for you.
Certainly when you care more about sisu's reputation over the welfare of the club you have to question your integrity, and you have to question if you are just a WUM.
Certainly you have no comprehension of the realities of football!
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
Utter bilge as per. I assume a summary of your posting
According to you SISU is the best thing that has ever happened to this club! that is one thing i have never said or have come remotely near to saying..... not even when they took over.
After all the years of crap we have had to put up with you STILL defend them! nothing in the above defends the ineptitude of their tenure but if in psgm1 fantasy world they are the only villains you carry on being deluded. I think you will find that i have never defended their ownership but i have explained what is there. There are other characters involved in this and central to any decision is the Board and its CEO (and major investor)........ just so you can grasp it Ranson bought into CCFC working in partnership with SISU, not working against them and they let him get on with it to begin with........ i dont recall any evidence of sustained success during his reign do you or would that be your fantasy?
Its clear for anyone to see that once ranson went, the quality of players brought in fell dramatically. If you are so blinkered you don't see that or just refuse to accept blatant facts, then there is no hope for you.That would be Ranson who took out his large salary the interest on his loan, the value of shares and the value of Prozone at the value he put it in at ..... whilst overseeing £20m in losses and a similar increase in debt would it......... that would seem to be your definition of success it certainly isnt mine. We ran out of money and Ranson was closely involved in that process, meant we had no choice but to go to the corner shop rather than M&S for players. Did performances and achievement improve under Ransons 3 years of leadership ? not a trick question because the only answer is NO
Certainly when you care more about sisu's reputation over the welfare of the club you have to question your integrity, and you have to question if you are just a WUM. Have never cared about SISU's reputation but then if you actually read my posts you would know that instead of trying and failing to wind me up :facepalm:. Think you will find my integrity is self evident and doesnt require proof to you. Question away chap you will find the only one in this discussion that is viewed as a WUM is yourself....... you must be very proud with your achievement
Certainly you have no comprehension of the realities of football! 0nly one proving that is yourself ........... enjoy your fantasy
Maths, company law, business, football, facts .................
chap as per .............. you have no comprehension of reality.
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Grendel
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I can only assume a late night on the beer is the only defence for this latest curious outburst.
The poster you are directing it at is a constant critic of SISU and often provides some useful financial insights into the clubs plight.
You are of course making an attempt to be a WUM but as with everything else you just don't do it very well.
skyblueinBaku
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Chinny_Hill
New Member
Nonsense on the Carroll front. Players that are too good for the level are what we need and dont have. (exception McGoldrick) King also proved the point in the Championship, as did Carroll at Newcastle. He does need to be played with the right tactics to be effective, but if the tactics are right he can be unplayable. (and for the record I am not a fan, although sometimes feel obligated to point out football home truths that fellow sky blues appear oblivious to!)
Mucca Mad Boys
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Too much wishing and hoping here, truth is, we couldn't afford to keep them because of pre existing, fundamental problems with the club (not owning a stake in the RICOH) that had nothing to do with SISU, why the excessive anti-SISU sentiment? Any pragmatic owner would have sold them.
I'm not, btw, SISU haven't mismanaged our club, but, our previous owners are just as responsible, make that more responsible than SISU for our current situation!
An example: Westwood, honoured his contract and left, now on (rumoured) 30k p/w we couldn't afford that, so it isn't about having balls or backbone. Keeping Westwood on a 30k p/w would be more damaging to our club than keeping him.
Reality does seem to be missing with some people on here.
I'm not, btw, SISU haven't mismanaged our club, but, our previous owners are just as responsible, make that more responsible than SISU for our current situation!
An example: Westwood, honoured his contract and left, now on (rumoured) 30k p/w we couldn't afford that, so it isn't about having balls or backbone. Keeping Westwood on a 30k p/w would be more damaging to our club than keeping him.
Reality does seem to be missing with some people on here.
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Mucca Mad Boys
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Ok, compare to our previous owners, firstly, we left Higfield Rd. Secondly, we gave up our share in the RICOH, and we were heading towards administration. Hmmmmm...
Worst thing about SISU is their manager choices... But, NOTHING will compare to the previous owners' decision to sack Eric Black and replace him with the worst manager, IMO, we've had whilst I've supported them.
When you look at it from that perspective, they aren't as bad as you and others make out.