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It's stupid, because it's a Richard Curtis film and he also made Notting Hill and Four Weddings and there are gay people in both those movies. Does he always have to include a gay character in every movie?

One of the main characters in Love Actually is black.

I think you could pick apart every movie ever made if you wanted couldn't you.
 

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It’s love …. Actually!!

Two gay men at the end of the film rab c Nesbit and bill nighy so he’s not only stupid he’s wrong
 
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He also doesn't get the Emma Thompson character either. She is torn inside, but is putting on a front, like people often do in reality. You know, like in the real world.
 

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Also and this has just come to my mind, because I have seen the deleted scenes from.the movie previously, and there are two characters who are lesbian. A lesbian romance. It was cut simply because of running time. The film was too long, so they had to cut the characters out completely.

It's idiotic. Putting 2 and 2 together and getting a huge snowflakey wokeness.
 

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Is he being deliberately obtuse to start a discussion about social change and public sensitivities through the prism of time and how most things get approached / discussed through modern channels of expression?
 

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Is he being deliberately obtuse to start a discussion about social change and public sensitivities through the prism of time and how most things get approached / discussed through modern channels of expression?
Or is he just being an arse?

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And if we have now moved on as a society and are more clued up, why is Pretty Woman now on the West End stage? A tale where a man basically buys a prostitute.
 

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the bloke from the walking dead bit is pretty wrong and creepy though
 
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the bloke from the walking dead bit is pretty wrong and creepy though
Yup. I do tend to agree. But as soon as she tells him no, that's the end of it. He is pretty obsessive isn't he.

There are some missteps in the film, don't get me wrong (the Kris Marshall story is just naff), but I think the stuff that does work, works brilliantly.
 

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Talking about inappropriate. Just been watching a film on Talking Pictures TV, where an actor born in Northern Ireland, plays a foreigner and has the character name of Darky.
 

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Simple solution, a director's cut where Egg gets his face smashed in for trying to sneak on his friend's new wife. Have the attack carried out by some Chinese lesbians and then Jeremy Vine can shut the fuck up
 
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Fucks sake. If you don’t like a movie don’t watch it.

Listened to Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie’s excellent Reith Lecture on Freedom of Speech yesterday and she was spot on. Art is about freedom and narrative voice needs to be allowed light and dark. Not every piece of art has to be some statement on equality or whatever. It’s OK just to tell a story.
 

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Fucks sake. If you don’t like a movie don’t watch it.

Listened to Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie’s excellent Reith Lecture on Freedom of Speech yesterday and she was spot on. Art is about freedom and narrative voice needs to be allowed light and dark. Not every piece of art has to be some statement on equality or whatever. It’s OK just to tell a story.
I agree. If you start saying every film has to have gay people in it and disabled people in it and black people in it, or white people in it, we might as well just give up.
 

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Maybe they should just stick a token white guy in this pic. A gay one, obviously. 🤪

Exactly. And equally I have no issue with Bridgerton having black and Asian members of the upper class because that’s the story they want to tell and it has the three piece orchestra playing Taylor swift or whatever. That’s fine. Let artists tell the story they want how they want, no one is forcing you to like it.
 
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Exactly. And equally I have no issue with Bridgerton having black and Asian members of the upper class because that’s the story they want to tell and it has the three piece orchestra playing Taylor swift or whatever. That’s fine. Let artists tell the story they want how they want, no one is forcing you to like it.
Yeah, I didn't get the Bridgerton fuss either. It was just actors playing fictional roles. They never said anything about trying to make it historically accurate.
 
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Ch 5 is similar to Talksport and some of those midweek morning shows on ITV like This Morning and Loose Women. They don't have enough organic content to discuss that will satisfy their outrage hungry audience so need to stir up their own controversies.

I thought Jeremy Vine was better than that but I guess the money for the Ch5 gig talks.
 
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Did NOT expect this level of passionate defence for any romcom, let alone Love Actually!

Toss up between Andrew Lincoln being a total sociopath and Hugh Grant’s speech for which is the most insane part of a truly insane film.
 
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Did NOT expect this level of passionate defence for any romcom, let alone Love Actually!

Toss up between Andrew Lincoln being a total sociopath and Hugh Grant’s speech for which is the most insane part of a truly insane film.
Yup. Insanely fabulous.
 
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