SkyBlueCRJ

Well-Known Member
Aug 3, 2014
3,124
1,545
113
No chance I would be falling for that I’ve always said 5-10 years in Brum is my guess,I’ve not even opened that link totally pointless

5-10 years in Birmingham are you genuinely serious I nearly just spat out my tea. Delusional.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
Jul 11, 2011
74,216
78,943
813
Coventry, United Kingdom, United Kingdom
We won’t last five years in Brum. Robins would go and we’d sink like a stone.

Hopefully all sides realise how important a ground in Cov is to securing Championship status should we make it.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
Aug 14, 2018
18,317
7,779
313
5-10 years in Birmingham are you genuinely serious I nearly just spat out my tea. Delusional.
Was my original guess at start of season mate still can’t see us coming back anytime soon,would love to be wrong though
 

SkyBlueCRJ

Well-Known Member
Aug 3, 2014
3,124
1,545
113
Was my original guess at start of season mate still can’t see us coming back anytime soon,would love to be wrong though

We’ll cease to exist if we stayed in Birmingham for another 2 years let alone 5-10
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
Aug 14, 2018
18,317
7,779
313
No just for generally falling for any old shite.
Well my point of always saying it would be long term rather than short doesn’t seem to fit with falling for any old shite in this thread does it
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
Aug 17, 2011
4,436
2,770
213
If Turner had directly quoted Fisher, for example "we are in negotiations for a return to the Ricoh" then that would be reason to get mildly excited.

Good old Telegraph. Can't give a simple report on the finances without putting in some bait. Surely they're getting enough clicks from the match coverage, we're top of the league FFS.
 

mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
Aug 4, 2013
2,312
2,804
213
If Turner had directly quoted Fisher, for example "we are in negotiations" then that would be reason to get mildly excited.

Good old Telegraph. Can't give a simple report on the finances without putting in some bait. Surely they're getting enough clicks from the match coverage, we're top of the league FFS.

Depends if wasps are playing or not
 
  • Like
Reactions: RegTheDonk

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
Nov 24, 2012
45,164
27,026
313
Come on Pete you know the complaint has nothing to do with us not being at the Ricoh as Eastwood and Boddy have both said it wasn't, please don't mislead people
I’m not. It was about saving money or losing money. Not whether it meant we were playing away, these are all choices, not misleading anyone I hope
 

Colin Steins Smile

Well-Known Member
Nov 5, 2015
2,235
2,260
213
It's in both clubs short-term interest to sort terms for CCFC to return to the Ricoh.
In the medium term SISU may calculate that keeping the club away may distress Wasps to the point they go bust.
Its a dangerous gamble!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Somerset Sky Blue

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
Jun 30, 2012
15,326
5,688
313
coventry
We've probably lost 5-6k on average, so 22 x 6 x 10 = £1,320,000 over a season top end of that. I can’t imagine the rent was more than that at the Ricoh, though rents hardly the issue stopping us.
But the tickets were dearer at the Ricoh as were Season tickets so it will be over 1.5 mil easy.
As for the Rent no one is sure but at the supporters meeting it was believed to be over £500,000 plus the policing etc seems to be a lot more at Brum then we ever had at the Ricoh, we also have to pay for the road closers etc.
We do however get more pie money.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
Nov 24, 2012
45,164
27,026
313
It's in both clubs short-term interest to sort terms for CCFC to return to the Ricoh.
In the medium term SISU may calculate that keeping the club away may distress Wasps to the point they go bust.
Its a dangerous gamble!
I genuinely don’t think anyone wanted to play outside of Coventry this season
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
Jul 11, 2011
74,216
78,943
813
Coventry, United Kingdom, United Kingdom
But the tickets were dearer at the Ricoh as were Season tickets so it will be over 1.5 mil easy.
As for the Rent no one is sure but at the supporters meeting it was believed to be over £500,000 plus the policing etc seems to be a lot more at Brum then we ever had at the Ricoh, we also have to pay for the road closers etc.
We do however get more pie money.

True. Depends if we get a better cut or distribution of paid vs free (fewer school tickets? Fewer OAPs making it over?) but generally the point holds.

Point is it’s costing us far more than it’s costing Wasps, which is shit because they’re the ones who need to budge and right now they have a lever to pull to get us to do what they want.

If we are getting 10k home fans by the end of the season looking at 12-13k in the Championship does that change I wonder?

Still doesn’t get us a home in Cov though. Until some land is bought anything will be a stop gap.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sky Blue Pete

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
Jun 30, 2012
15,326
5,688
313
coventry
It's in both clubs short-term interest to sort terms for CCFC to return to the Ricoh.
In the medium term SISU may calculate that keeping the club away may distress Wasps to the point they go bust.
Its a dangerous gamble!
Apparently the RFU would not allow wasps to go bust and would bale them out, that is the consensus at Cov RFC games.
Cant see it myself but a lot are adamant that is the case.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
Jun 30, 2012
15,326
5,688
313
coventry
True. Depends if we get a better cut or distribution of paid vs free (fewer school tickets? Fewer OAPs making it over?) but generally the point holds.

Point is it’s costing us far more than it’s costing Wasps, which is shit because they’re the ones who need to budge and right now they have a lever to pull to get us to do what they want.

If we are getting 10k home fans by the end of the season looking at 12-13k in the Championship does that change I wonder?

Still doesn’t get us a home in Cov though. Until some land is bought anything will be a stop gap.

We only had 7000 City fans at the Sunderland game pretty poor even if it was on the tele.
Cant see anyone else bringing as many as they did to any of our remaining home games.
Might get a sellout for the final game if we have won the league, though as it is a game everyone will want to be at just like Wembley.
 

mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
Aug 4, 2013
2,312
2,804
213
I’m not. It was about saving money or losing money. Not whether it meant we were playing away, these are all choices, not misleading anyone I hope

But the choice to make the complaint hasn't affected anything at all. Even if the complaint wasnt made its fairly obvious we still wouldn't be playing at the ricoh this season, that's what I ment in my tired typing :)

The extra income wasps would get from us playing in the championship is a game changer and so personally I fully expect us to be playing the villa at the Ricoh in the league next season
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
Sep 19, 2011
90,751
45,503
813
But the tickets were dearer at the Ricoh as were Season tickets so it will be over 1.5 mil easy.
As for the Rent no one is sure but at the supporters meeting it was believed to be over £500,000 plus the policing etc seems to be a lot more at Brum then we ever had at the Ricoh, we also have to pay for the road closers etc.
We do however get more pie money.

We averaged £8 per supporter at the Ricoh in the last season
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
Sep 19, 2011
90,751
45,503
813
Actually net of tax it seems to be £6.40
 
  • Like
Reactions: shmmeee

Grendel

Well-Known Member
Sep 19, 2011
90,751
45,503
813

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
Jun 20, 2016
8,761
4,729
213
It isn't, just pointing out how people fall for the click bait as you clearly have.
I haven’t fell for it, I can’t stand the bs from the telegraph but it’s come from fisher not the telegraph....
Doesn’t make it any more believable but still
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
Nov 24, 2012
45,164
27,026
313
But the choice to make the complaint hasn't affected anything at all. Even if the complaint wasnt made its fairly obvious we still wouldn't be playing at the ricoh this season, that's what I ment in my tired typing :)

The extra income wasps would get from us playing in the championship is a game changer and so personally I fully expect us to be playing the villa at the Ricoh in the league next season
Me too
 

SkyBlueCRJ

Well-Known Member
Aug 3, 2014
3,124
1,545
113
do tell how you come to that conclusion ?

It’s not really that hard to figure out is it? We’re paying potentially up to £1M worth of rent and our gates are down by over half. Anyone with a shred of common sense can figure out that’s not sustainable for the long term.
 
  • Like
Reactions: clint van damme

Grendel

Well-Known Member
Sep 19, 2011
90,751
45,503
813
Lower than I thought, although its beyond debate that we'd have more through the gate at the Ricoh so would be better off. We just can't do it at any cost, it has to be sensible and sustainable (and have a better pitch!!).

Revenue is £2.5 m across 309,000 in the season which is around £8 gross and £6.40 net
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
Apr 16, 2010
9,695
7,608
313
Coventry
Match receipts in accounts £2,545,705 (includes cup games though)
Average league attendance 12363

Roughly £8.95 per person and that is already net of VAT or tax. The accounts show all figures net of VAT
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
Mar 20, 2011
26,635
9,041
263
It’s not really that hard to figure out is it? We’re paying potentially up to £1M worth of rent and our gates are down by over half. Anyone with a shred of common sense can figure out that’s not sustainable for the long term.

suppose it depends on the definition of long term. I would say its longer than 2 years.
 

Users who are viewing this thread