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Grendel

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Evo1883 said:
43.1 % win ratio after 153 games back in charge.

The only manager to have that kind of ratio with over 100 games in charge was a certain Jimmy Hill over 50 years ago... 44.3%
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I’m not sure if that means anything does it?
 
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Grendel said:
I’m not sure if that means anything does it?
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In my opinion it means that he's a success over a longer period and is putting up a similar win ratio to a man who got us promoted a couple of times... It also means we should stick with him and his plan

Hard to gauge how good a manager is for a club in the long term if they've done well over 30 40 games etc
 
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stevefloyd said:
It means hes doing better than most managers we have had
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So if he managed his entire career in the top flight he’d have the same ratio?

Hill and Robins never managed in the top flight

Is Dowie a better manager than Sillett? Is Robins?

No
 
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Hullinho87 said:
And means it would be hard to find this magic alternative manager who would be attainable that has that kind of record and that has a record of getting teams promoted.
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How many teams had he got promoted other than us?
 
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Grendel said:
So if he managed his entire career in the top flight he’d have the same ratio?

Hill and Robins never managed in the top flight

Is Dowie a better manager than Sillett? Is Robins?

No
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He's the only manager to bring relative success during an absolutely horrendous 20 year period in the clubs history... And still looks like we are gearing for even more success... Credit where its due... We've had some high profile names here who have absolutely failed
 
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Evo1883 said:
43.1 % win ratio after 153 games back in charge.

The only manager to have that kind of ratio with over 100 games in charge was a certain Jimmy Hill over 50 years ago... 44.3%
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Best manager in my lifetime (1982)

Hope he can get another promotion on c.v. prob matter of time till a club higher in hierarchy takes another punt on him
 
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Won't be long before a big club comes in for him that he can't say no to, unless we go up this season.

Enjoy him while we can, we'll soon be back on the managerial merry go round with the Russell Slades of this world.
 
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Evo1883 said:
He's the only manager to bring relative success to an absolutely horrendous 20 year period in the clubs history... And still looks like we are gearing for even more success... Credit where its due... We've had some high profile names here who have absolutely failed
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I agree credit where it’s due but he can’t be compared to managers in the top flight as it’s a very different circumstance
 
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PVA said:
Won't be long before a big club comes in for him that he can't say no to, unless we go up this season.

Enjoy him while we can, we'll soon be back on the managerial merry go round with the Russell Slades of this world.
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there’s no chance a big club will come in for him - Slade in terms of promotion championship games etc is pretty much the same as Robins
 
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Evo1883 said:
I agree to an extent, but it's all relative, the lower the division the lower the budget, smaller buying power etc...
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Er no as in league two we had one of the top attendances and also top 7 budgets so achieving 10th in the top flight is a far bigger achievement
 
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Grendel said:
So if he managed his entire career in the top flight he’d have the same ratio?

Hill and Robins never managed in the top flight

Is Dowie a better manager than Sillett? Is Robins?

No
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I merely said he is doing better in terms of wins and half decent results than the major majority of managers we have had in recent years
 
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Grendel said:
Er no as in league two we had one of the top attendances and also top 7 budgets so achieving 10th in the top flight is a far bigger achievement
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Like I said I somewhat agree with you, but think you are also taking away from a remarkable turnaround of a club in free fall, that had no players on long contracts and that plays its home football matches away from the city.. We are currently punching above our weight in league 1 with teams like Sunderland, Ipswich and pompey and Rotherham massively outdoing us wage wise... Like I said the job he's doing is fantastic
 
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I know we all love to think our manager and players will stick with us no matter what but if a Barnsley or someone of that ilk came in for him he’d be off or at least giving it serious consideration
 
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Anyone who compares Robins’ impact with Jimmy Hill wasn’t around in the 1960’s.

But from the (admittedly limited) times I’ve seen us this season I’d say this could be the best footballing side we’ve had since dropping into the third tier (including the purple patches we had under Robins before and under Mowbray).

Considering the state of the pitch, some of the passing football today was amazing. The missing ingredient is still a beast of a striker, and it remains to be seen whether Godden can deliver over a full season.
 
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Calista said:
Anyone who compares Robins’ impact with Jimmy Hill wasn’t around in the 1960’s.

But from the (admittedly limited) times I’ve seen us this season I’d say this could be the best footballing side we’ve had since dropping into the third tier (including the purple patches we had under Robins before and under Mowbray).

Considering the state of the pitch, some of the passing football today was amazing. The missing ingredient is still a beast of a striker, and it remains to be seen whether Godden can deliver over a full season.
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Wasn't it pretty much the same journey up? If he somehow gets us up again then he's on course to match what hill achieved surely
 
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Grendel said:
there’s no chance a big club will come in for him - Slade in terms of promotion championship games etc is pretty much the same as Robins
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Depends how you define big - it was a bit of a vague comment from me.

I meant a team in the league above. If we get promoted then no one in the Premier League will be in for him so we'll be fine, but if we don't go up this season I do fear that a Championship club will take him.
 
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Threads like these do show the people who can't or won't take fully to Robins lol..makes sense tbh
 
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Evo1883 said:
Like I said I somewhat agree with you, but think you are also taking away from a remarkable turnaround of a club in free fall, that had no players on long contracts and that plays its home football matches away from the city.. We are currently punching above our weight in league 1 with teams like Sunderland, Ipswich and pompey and Rotherham massively outdoing us wage wise... Like I said the job he's doing is fantastic
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Yes I agree to an extent but he has been for what ever reason supported more by the ownership model than most past managers and the sales have covered by like for like replacements
 
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