The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (57 Viewers)

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .

Astute

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Any evidence of that? Don’t see you ever labelling Junker in such a way
Don't be silly.

I would guess you are replying to SB who ignores what anyone in the EU does wrong and shifts the blame elsewhere. Absolute joke.
 

Astute

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But that is the point.

Someone states a quote from someone else. He gets called a racist. But when shown who the comment originated from the person who quoted it is still the racist and not the person who originally said it.

It is clear who it is that defends those running the EU. So in the words of others we now have racists running the EU. Great. Nice one. Fantastic. Think I had better join in with defending them :rolleyes:
 

Sick Boy

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Don't be silly.

I would guess you are replying to SB who ignores what anyone in the EU does wrong and shifts the blame elsewhere. Absolute joke.

The only joke on here is you.

Oh and yet something else you’ve completely made up and projected onto someone else.

Juncker’s comment was ridiculous and he should have apologised. Others have said similar on here and strangely you didn’t say anything.
 
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Sick Boy

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But that is the point.

Someone states a quote from someone else. He gets called a racist. But when shown who the comment originated from the person who quoted it is still the racist and not the person who originally said it.

It is clear who it is that defends those running the EU. So in the words of others we now have racists running the EU. Great. Nice one. Fantastic. Think I had better join in with defending them :rolleyes:

...and yet more made up bollocks.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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But that is the point.

Someone states a quote from someone else. He gets called a racist. But when shown who the comment originated from the person who quoted it is still the racist and not the person who originally said it.

It is clear who it is that defends those running the EU. So in the words of others we now have racists running the EU. Great. Nice one. Fantastic. Think I had better join in with defending them :rolleyes:

It isn’t that, it’s more the admission of him playing troll and applauding himself when people take the bait. From a dude who paints himself as mature.

It’s just tedious
 

Grendel

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It isn’t that, it’s more the admission of him playing troll and applauding himself when people take the bait. From a dude who paints himself as mature.

It’s just tedious

Ironic
 

djr8369

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no I made a comment you jumped on racist bandwagon and I immediately showed you the source of it - it’s funny then to see the snivelling backtracking

That’s not what happened though is it?

You criticised Junker for his comments and then I dug up several of your old comments and called you hypocrite.



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djr8369

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Someone states a quote from someone else. He gets called a racist. But when shown who the comment originated from the person who quoted it is still the racist and not the person who originally said it.
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But none of that happened and nobody defended Junker.



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Grendel

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That’s not what happened though is it?

You criticised Junker for his comments and then I dug up several of your old comments and called you hypocrite.



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what old comments?
 

djr8369

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Some did assume it was G’s own views-since he delayed who the source was. As I said, it, or rather he, is tedious.

Except he has made similar comment several times in different contexts and drawn no link to Juncker. It seems quite clear he holds some of these views as it occasionally seeps through. Others are free to disagree of course.


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Grendel

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I posted a few the other day, that’s what this entire conversation is about.


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The ones aimed at Mart which were before you joined the forum?

Are you a friend of his?
 

Grendel

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The fourth reich comments aren’t racist and I’ve pointed out that this is in fact the title of a book by a senior economist which i urged your friend Mart to read - an offer he declined
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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The fourth reich comments aren’t racist and I’ve pointed out that this is in fact the title of a book by a senior economist which i urged your friend Mart to read - an offer he declined

The only books I can find with that in the title are ones with thinly or not at all veiled attempts to link modern Germany to the Nazis. The connotations are obvious
 

djr8369

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The ones aimed at Mart which were before you joined the forum?

Are you a friend of his?

I’m not going to get drawn into your distractions. You know where I work so you know I’m not Mart yet you persist with it anyway.


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Grendel

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The only books I can find with that in the title are ones with thinly or not at all veiled attempts to link modern Germany to the Nazis. The connotations are obvious
It’s from a economist and it’s book is entirely showing the political and economic control of Germany - it’s hardly a radical thought process. The euro would not exist unless Germany controlled it
 

Grendel

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Though actually what I would urge you to do is explore the thinking of Will Hutton who freely admits the economic model has to be preserved in Europe for the prime benefit of Germany to avoid future military might
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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At most I can find opinion pieces from the good doctor but no book.

Though actually what I would urge you to do is explore the thinking of Will Hutton who freely admits the economic model has to be preserved in Europe for the prime benefit of Germany to avoid future military might

All I see from him lately on the subject is vociferous support for remaining in the EU and criticism of Corbyn for trying to pursue a deal. Looking further back I do see comments to the effect that Germany holds the European project together-but that the UK should be working with rather than against it. Unless there's some other place he's said what you're describing?

I do wonder what Germans themselves would make of the comparison
 

skybluetony176

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At most I can find opinion pieces from the good doctor but no book.



All I see from him lately on the subject is vociferous support for remaining in the EU and criticism of Corbyn for trying to pursue a deal. Looking further back I do see comments to the effect that Germany holds the European project together-but that the UK should be working with rather than against it. Unless there's some other place he's said what you're describing?

I do wonder what Germans themselves would make of the comparison
Will Hutton also doesn’t hold Boris in high regard either
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Heaven forbid anyone should make any such comparisons, they are reserved for anyone British who leans towards the right aren't they?

German city declares a ‘Nazi emergency’

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What you mean like how a politician arguing for a £10 minimum wage is labelled 'hard left'? Political dialogue in this country has been dragged to the right for decades.

Find Merkel's plans for Jewish genocide and then the Nazi comparisons are fair game
 

Grendel

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What you mean like how a politician arguing for a £10 minimum wage is labelled 'hard left'? Political dialogue in this country has been dragged to the right for decades.

Find Merkel's plans for Jewish genocide and then the Nazi comparisons are fair game

discussion on this topic is now becoming beyond farcical
 

SkyblueBazza

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What you mean like how a politician arguing for a £10 minimum wage is labelled 'hard left'? Political dialogue in this country has been dragged to the right for decades.

Find Merkel's plans for Jewish genocide and then the Nazi comparisons are fair game
Well given it is the local German Authority themselves making the comparison in the link provided. I think we can safely say ypur response is a clear attempt to distract.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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Well given it is the local German Authority themselves making the comparison in the link provided. I think we can safely say ypur response is a clear attempt to distract.

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The article is about the rise of the far right in a German city-not an attempt to characterise the EU as a pseudo-Nazi project.
 

SkyblueBazza

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The article is about the rise of the far right in a German city-not an attempt to characterise the EU as a pseudo-Nazi project.
I was merely dispelling your theory about "attempts" to link modern Germany to the Nazis. If Dresden city authorities are doing it themselves...it is a pretty official link

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