The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (51 Viewers)

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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shmmeee said:
I couldn’t give a shit mate. I’ve got enough skills to work wherever I want if this country goes tits up.

Just find the endless idiocy pretty hilarious. That lot must piss themselves that they’ve managed to convince so many people they’re “man of the people” or whatever. You couldn’t make it up, bunch of posh boy traders convince a load of white van men they’re on their side.
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They’re treating their followers like the proverbial plebs they see them as and in plain sight. And yet the “plebs” can’t see it. Turkeys for Xmas.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Ian1779 said:
His only ‘real’ manifesto is his own personal gain. He is however a shrewd operator and knew there was a gaping hole to exploit once it was evident we were not exiting on 29th March.

Democracy is to leave, but it doesn’t have to be the way he wants it. He will always have some supporters that will want the Hard Brexit line, or buy into his immigration bollocks.

There has been a massive underestimation of those people who want to leave because it’s been so shit for the last 10/20 years.
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There’s no consensus anywhere for a hard brexit. Will of the people is bollocks talk.
 
Ian1779

Ian1779

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skybluetony176 said:
There’s no consensus anywhere for a hard brexit. Will of the people is bollocks talk.
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Agreed... but I think a form is Brexit is a will of the people, albeit everyone is pretty divided.

For me - I think the Remain camp have to push for a Brexit that creates the least damage, and that includes looking at all the demographic, financial and social issues that caused Leave to win in the first place.
 
RegTheDonk

RegTheDonk

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skybluetony176 said:
I see Change U.K. has just publicly challenged Ferage by way of a party political broadcast to a public debate on brexit.
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Change must realise they need a boost. If its Soubry Vs Farage like on QT, don't fancy their chances - particularly if she doesn't get her facts right.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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Ian1779 said:
Labour do not have the majority in the house. Nothing has the majority of the house, except for not wanting a no-deal Brexit. These negotiations can keep happening as much as they like, but the reality is that unless the Tories concede ground there is no deal, because May's deal won't get through.

So what's the one thing you can control - what you will do if you were in government.

The Brexit party will win these EU elections - let them have their seats in a European Council that they supposedly don't want to even be part of. They also don't have a single other policy, and at some point that will bite them in the arse.
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So they make their own destiny!
Leave the EU is the destiny the majority have decided they want...Parliament's job is to deliver that...whatever form it may take imo

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SkyblueBazza

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skybluetony176 said:
If the brexit Party are ever elected to government their one and only policy is hard brexit. What’s stopping them doing it once they’ve been elected and we’ve had their hard brexit other than economic sanity? Will VAT below 4% be in their manifesto? Yes or No?
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But if they are elected - obviously they will hace the mandate to bring it about...if that is a problem for you maybe you should go join Mart in Germany?

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martcov

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Ashdown said:
There's a huge lead building for the Brexit party Mart.. no one wants to see democracy wiped under the carpet by a load of self interested wet ends !! Rule Britannia !!
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Democracy? Flawed referendum, convictions, foreign influence, data misuse, targeted lies... where was your defence of democracy then?

Second referendum on any deal v remain and no deal? Not democratic?

Shouting rule Britannia is referring to bygone times. We no longer rule the waves. We need the support of our regional bloc to get influence in the modern world. Sorry to have ruined your wet dream.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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skybluetony176 said:
My grandfather always told me to question whatever a politician tells you. Especially if they’re telling you what you want to hear. Best advice I ever had concerning politics.
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...but you appear to question only specific ones on one side of the argument!

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skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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SkyblueBazza said:
But if they are elected - obviously they will hace the mandate to bring it about...if that is a problem for you maybe you should go join Mart in Germany?

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I don’t know what’s funnier and more moronic. You telling me that the brexit Party will drop VAT below 4% or you telling me that if I don’t like it I can get out of your country.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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SkyblueBazza said:
And yet you acknowledge Farage's Brexit party lead in the polls & that they have a hard brexit policy?!

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Which is considerably less than the percentage that voted brexit in the first place which confirms what I’ve said.. Maths obviously not your strong point.
 
Ian1779

Ian1779

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SkyblueBazza said:
So they make their own destiny!
Leave the EU is the destiny the majority have decided they want...Parliament's job is to deliver that...whatever form it may take imo

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Well remain in the EU is about as popular as a no-deal Brexit. The solution is a compromise in the middle which appears to be some kind of Brexit.
 
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martcov

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Grendel said:
Huge buckets of slime will fall on Farage from the Eu biased media as he really is threatening the snout in the trough world order
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How long has he had his snout in the trough? He is constantly spouting his crap on the BBC and LBC. They are obviously not EU biased. The Express is his personal paper for spouting lies and crap.
 
Ian1779

Ian1779

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martcov said:
How long has he had his snout in the trough? He is constantly spouting his crap on the BBC and LBC. They are obviously not EU biased. The Express is his personal paper for spouting lies and crap.
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Express readers still think Diana and Madeline McCann are alive.... no wonder he picked that one for his mouthpiece.
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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SkyblueBazza said:
Well I never! So the UK enter into the true spirit of an EU pillar, whilst the others give it lip-service? I'd like to say "that's a new one"...but I can't really can I?

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Well, that’s one hell of a way to spin it, I suppose. Most countries have these sort of conditions and the UK has had the freedom too as well but has chosen not to. Most people are ignorant about it though and have no idea that the UK has always had these powers.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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skybluetony176 said:
I don’t know what’s funnier and more moronic. You telling me that the brexit Party will drop VAT below 4% or you telling me that if I don’t like it I can get out of your country.
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Well I am unsure which is more moronic myself tbh...you go ahead & show me where I have made any reference to VAT whatsoever. And I have not told you anything of the sort...it was a suggestion based upon an assumption you were making!

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SkyblueBazza

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skybluetony176 said:
Which is considerably less than the percentage that voted brexit in the first place which confirms what I’ve said.. Maths obviously not your strong point.
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Understanding the maths being your weakness. The majority of voters said let's go! Why can you not understand that?
You seem to accept it when it is in opinion polls thst favour YOUR viewpoint

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Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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Astute said:
Yes and no. Yes to be sure. But the UK is so easy. That is why it is the destination to aim for. Nobody wants to be the place for scroungers to aim for. But we allow much more than others.

If you can't afford to move somewhere you shouldn't go. But most do come here to work. I'm not moving to work. I'm moving for the lifestyle. I'm buying the house of our dreams for less than the price of a 2 up 2 down. And going where crime doesn't happen. I can't remember the last time we locked our house up. So had to go somewhere similar.
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It’s more to do with there being more employment opportunities to be fair than it being easy. The lifestyle over here is on another level, dreadful weather at the moment though but should be up to 30 on a daily basis within a couple of weeks :D
 
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SkyblueBazza

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Sick Boy said:
Well, that’s one hell of a way to spin it, I suppose. Most countries have these sort of conditions and the UK has had the freedom too as well but has chosen not to. Most people are ignorant about it though and have no idea that the UK has always had these powers.
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You can call it spin if you wish...the reality speaks for itself

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skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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SkyblueBazza said:
Well I am unsure which is more moronic myself tbh...you go ahead & show me where I have made any reference to VAT whatsoever. And I have not told you anything of the sort...it was a suggestion based upon an assumption you were making!

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That’s what the post you replied to was about.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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SkyblueBazza said:
Understanding the maths being your weakness. The majority of voters said let's go! Why can you not understand that?
You seem to accept it when it is in opinion polls thst favour YOUR viewpoint

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The majority of voter didn’t say hard brexit and Ferages lead in the opinion polls confirms just that. That’s not opinion, that’s fact.
 
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