O'Brien Wanted by Eastleigh (3 Viewers)

Mucca Mad Boys

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Would be a good move for him if he's not getting first team football in L1 or L2.
 
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Martw

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think it was a sponsored not needing to be washed competition!
I'll get first bagsy I hope should he go and my long held belief that we need a new keeper would come to fruition
 

better days

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I suspect he's one of the fringe players Robins has told they can go if they can find a club
Unlikely to be a fee but he'll be off the payroll and the lad will be more likely to get game time
 

SkyBlueCRJ

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I don’t think he did struggle?

He made two errors and got dropped, or does that class as someone struggle to cope now?

Well yes, because both of his errors led directly to goals and we were only maybe 3/4 games into the season. There were a few cases in cameos after this where it was clear he was not good enough to wear the No.1. shirt. This was made apparent by the fact that he never remained as our starting GK. Even during the odd game where Burge was injured, ill etc, he'd never retain his place. So clearly MR thought the same.
 

skybluepm2

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Well yes, because both of his errors led directly to goals and we were only maybe 3/4 games into the season. There were a few cases in cameos after this where it was clear he was not good enough to wear the No.1. shirt. This was made apparent by the fact that he never remained as our starting GK. Even during the odd game where Burge was injured, ill etc, he'd never retain his place. So clearly MR thought the same.

If we are pointing to individual errors last year (irrespective of the number of games played), I’d argue that Burge took that accolade hands down. Neither are good enough for a number 1 position in league 1 if we are serious about promotion.
 

Nick

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He did actually make some decent saves, his mistakes werent as bad as some of burges either.

Only way I can see him going is if there's a new number one lined up to have burge as backup.

Robins is going to want to play with pace down the wings, it will need a goalie who can release the ball fast and accurately to send them on their way.
 

SkyBlueCRJ

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If we are pointing to individual errors last year (irrespective of the number of games played), I’d argue that Burge took that accolade hands down. Neither are good enough for a number 1 position in league 1 if we are serious about promotion.

He made errors, as every goalkeeper does, but some of the saves he made won us points. You cannot ignore the amount of games played though, so it's difficult to compare the two as O'Brien only featured in around 10-or-so games, whereas Burge featured in 40+. Obviously Burge over the course of the season would make more individual errors in this respect.

If Burge was so prone to individual errors as you say then why did he retain the No.1. jersey throughout the course of the season? Why was he named in the League One Team of the Year? Robins could have brought in a replacement in January but he didn't so clearly he was doing something right.

Admittedly we need another goalkeeper to compete with Burge but not to necessarily replace him.
 

Marty

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O'Brien is a terrible keeper, always came for crosses he had no right too. Defence had no confidence in him towards the end, Burge isn't great by any stretch of the imagination, but hes a better 2nd choice but really both need replacing.
 

sw88

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Well yes, because both of his errors led directly to goals and we were only maybe 3/4 games into the season. There were a few cases in cameos after this where it was clear he was not good enough to wear the No.1. shirt. This was made apparent by the fact that he never remained as our starting GK. Even during the odd game where Burge was injured, ill etc, he'd never retain his place. So clearly MR thought the same.

Come on, that more often than not happens when keepers make errors; the team conceded.

The only reason he didn’t retain his place after a ‘cameo’ aka cup game, was because Burge was clearly MR preferred choice for league games and would only have lost his place through injury or consecutive errors, the same O’Brien was.

And he pulled off equally as good saves as Burge did, at the same time as making errors like Burge did
 

NorthernWisdom

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Only reason I could see him leaving although I do think he’d want to play at a better standard / level than what Eastleigh are at
Near home (or at least where he's familiar with I assume,). Eastleigh relatively generous payers for non league, and he could be back in the league the next season, as first choice keeper... something he's not managed to be for a fair while.
 

SkyBlueCRJ

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Come on, that more often than not happens when keepers make errors; the team conceded.

The only reason he didn’t retain his place after a ‘cameo’ aka cup game, was because Burge was clearly MR preferred choice for league games and would only have lost his place through injury or consecutive errors, the same O’Brien was.

And he pulled off equally as good saves as Burge did, at the same time as making errors like Burge did

It can happen where keepers are overshadowed by their No.1. but I don't think this is the case with O'Brien. O'Brien was originally brought in to start, I think MR even said this at some point, yet he lost his place due to the fact Burge was better and when given the opportunity he didn't impress enough to make MR think twice about giving him back the No.1. shirt.

How did he? I can't remember the games off the top of my head but there were two or three where Burge made saves that were genuinely top class. Now he's by no means anywhere near a top class keeper but to imply that he's as good O'Brien is baffling. O'Brien looks solid on his day, I'll admit that, but his alarming inconsistency is the whole reason why he never pushed his way back into the frame. I'm guessing you don't rate Burge whatsoever?
 

sw88

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It can happen where keepers are overshadowed by their No.1. but I don't think this is the case with O'Brien. O'Brien was originally brought in to start, I think MR even said this at some point, yet he lost his place due to the fact Burge was better and when given the opportunity he didn't impress enough to make MR think twice about giving him back the No.1. shirt.

How did he? I can't remember the games off the top of my head but there were two or three where Burge made saves that were genuinely top class. Now he's by no means anywhere near a top class keeper but to imply that he's as good O'Brien is baffling. O'Brien looks solid on his day, I'll admit that, but his alarming inconsistency is the whole reason why he never pushed his way back into the frame. I'm guessing you don't rate Burge whatsoever?

O’Brien made saves just as good. It was the mistakes that cost him. As for ‘alarming inconsistency’ I’m not sure how you can be consistent or inconsistent in so few appearances

As for Burge, I’ve said all last season I accept he has improved but ta because I believe he has found his level. I’ve never been his biggest fan, I think he’s just as calamitous as some other keepers we’ve had over the years. Yes he’s a good shot stopper, and has made good stops, check a trade final and play off final saves were amazing, I’ll admit that, but over the course of a season he still gives me the jitters.

I think we should just agree to disagree on this one or would we could be here for a while :D
 

SkyBlueCRJ

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O’Brien made saves just as good. It was the mistakes that cost him. As for ‘alarming inconsistency’ I’m not sure how you can be consistent or inconsistent in so few appearances

As for Burge, I’ve said all last season I accept he has improved but ta because I believe he has found his level. I’ve never been his biggest fan, I think he’s just as calamitous as some other keepers we’ve had over the years. Yes he’s a good shot stopper, and has made good stops, check a trade final and play off final saves were amazing, I’ll admit that, but over the course of a season he still gives me the jitters.

I think we should just agree to disagree on this one or would we could be here for a while :D

Because the 4 or so games where I saw him he was fantastic in the first, then he'd been directly responsible for two goals in two games, then was dodgy in the next. So yeah, it rang seriously bells given the fact he was brought in as a No.1.

I think his past seasons haven't helped. This is the first season where he hasn't given me the jitters. But, whilst I say that I'd like another keeper to come in to push him and compete with him - not rot on the bench like O'Biren has this season.

Well I certainly agree on that one.
 

zuni

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Think Burge is almost there and as a club we have invested to much time just to let him go
 

Captain Dart

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Letting O'Brien go is not a problem.
What has he done? He isn't first choice.
 

SkyBlueCRJ

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If he wants to get first team games that's fair enough. We could bring in better so it suits both parties. I could see us terminating the contract by mutual consent if we find him a club - unless a fee is involved of course.
 

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