This club is dead (2 Viewers)

[Nick]

The majority are voting with there feet and not going. When the fans don't turn up it's says it all. Remind me what good this club has going for it?

So it isn't dead then? Nobody is saying things are great, they are saying it isn't dead.

 

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[The Lurker]

No, I say it's pretty much the same with no stadium, no academy of our own, no money, crowds going down.

That is an actual fact.

A fact that the club is dead and has no future while sisu and fisher are here

 

[clint van damme]

It's fisher esq. quite amusing how they would rather question fans who are saying what the whole city is saying rather than the regime and doing something about it

if the whole city is saying the club is dead, then the whole city is wrong.

 

[ccfcway]

So it isn't dead then?

its just a very naughty boy

 

[ccfcway]

Lets make one thing clear, people saying "fact" are right

 

[The Lurker]

if the whole city is saying the club is dead, then the whole city is wrong.

You walk into any pub or work place the words from people in the city are this club is fucked while sisu and fisher are here. Season on season it's been going down hill.

 

[torchomatic]

Lets make one thing clear, people saying "fact" are right

Only if it is in capitals with "end of" afterwards.

 

[Nick]

You walk into any pub or work place the words from people in the city are this club is fucked while sisu and fisher are here. Season on season it's been going down hill.

Going downhill is not the same as dead.

Nobody is saying things are rosey.

 

[clint van damme]

You walk into any pub or work place the words from people in the city are this club is fucked while sisu and fisher are here. Season on season it's been going down hill.

mate, the club is fucked while sisu is here is different to the club is dead.
I agree with the former, not the latter.

 

[The Lurker]

Going downhill is not the same as dead.

Nobody is saying things are rosey.

It is dead. How can a club survive when it's self efficient on fans and the fans are disappearing.

 

[Nick]

A fact that the club is dead and has no future while sisu and fisher are here

It isn't a fact the club is dead though is it? You can say how it's the majority all you want, it doesn't make it true.

You can go and get Katie price to say it with her fanny, the club will still be playing a match on boxing day.

It's a very shite situation, but it isn't dead.

 

[clint van damme]

Lets make one thing clear, people saying "fact" are right

true dat

 

[ccfcway]

Nobody is saying things are rosey.

unless of course, someone is asking "out of the midfield trio, whats the nickname of the player who was the most shocking last night?"

 

[tisza]

Still a slow death.
Crowds have halved in 10 years. That's a high % of kids (the future of the club) that have now decided to be Utd, Liverpool etc. fans.
How many of us became City fans as young kids and never let go? That was the traditional hook for a club's fans. You went up with your dad, or in my case granddad when I was 4.Then later on you took your kids.
Not easy to inspire kids to sit in an empty stadium watching a poor side.

 

[ccfcway]

true dat

nuff said

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

May be wrong but I seem to recall italiahorse holds a S T ( stand to be corrected on that) but if he decides to watch to watch Wasps as well so be it as for attacking fans where?

 

[The Lurker]

mate, the club is fucked while sisu is here is different to the club is dead.
I agree with the former, not the latter.

While they're here the fans will keep dissapering which means one thing no money and that in fisher eyes means less playing budget and the rot will continue. Most people in this city who support cov, have done for years don't go anymore. That says enough to show the club has no future while sisu and fisher are here

 

[Nick]

While they're here the fans will keep dissapering which means one thing no money and that in fisher eyes means less playing budget and the rot will continue. Most people in this city who support cov, have done for years don't go anymore. That says enough to show the club has no future while sisu and fisher are here

How can fans keep disappearing if it is dead? Surely there is no club to support now so they have all gone?

So it isn't fact that it's dead, as they will still be playing on boxing day and people will still be there.

I'd hazard a bet that a fair few people claiming the club is dead (lingering in League 1 in the shite) would be happy with a Phoenix club situation with the aim to be a football league club.

 

[clint van damme]

While they're here the fans will keep dissapering which means one thing no money and that in fisher eyes means less playing budget and the rot will continue. Most people in this city who support cov, have done for years don't go anymore. That says enough to show the club has no future while sisu and fisher are here

again, I don't disagree, but the club still isn't dead!!
You may have given up hope that it will ever recover, I understand that.
But for me, while there's life there's hope until we don't have a team anymore.

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

It's not actually what they want though is it. What they really want is to leave it alone and somehow it miraculously will sort itself out and they can have some money as a result. They don't want to spend any money, and as they can't get back what they believe they put in then they will just leave it there to take care of itself.

The question is - can it survive on it's own?? Not that it is our responsibility as fans but this is probably the reality of what we will always face unless we get an owner willing to chuck money at it.

I think you are right. However with owners that care, at least they would try to increase turnover which would increase the budget.

 

[Great_Expectations]

The club isn't dead. We are absolutely struggling, we are in a terrible state with no obvious escape and we have owners who couldn't care what league we are in as long as income > expenditure.

It will never die on fan attendance alone, we might get relegated but there will always be a core who go no matter what, therefore we will reach an equilibrium where ticket sales > player sales and we plod along in whatever league that might be, until a miracle happens.

In fairness we were in dire straits last season yet it was in the background as we had on field success. We get that again and somehow sneak a play off or promotion and suddenly things look different.

Seasons like last are why there's hope. It's a slither, but it's there.

 

[torchomatic]

May be wrong but I seem to recall italiahorse holds a S T ( stand to be corrected on that) but if he decides to watch to watch Wasps as well so be it as for attacking fans where?

..... and your just the type of fan Sisu want.
Don't give a toss about fellow fans and will eat any shit they feed them. Good luck stuffing yourself at the buffet.

 

[matesx]

See how dead CCFC is if we get to Wembley

 

[ccfcway]

I'd hazard a bet that a fair few people claiming the club is dead (lingering in League 1 in the shite) would be happy with a Phoenix club situation with the aim to be a football league club.

like Wimbledon who are above us in the league ?
Genuine question Nick , At what point does that become attractive ?

 

[Otis]

That's the exact face I was pulling as I typed it.

 

[torchomatic]

like Wimbledon who are above us in the league ?
Genuine question Nick , At what point does that become attractive ?

Just need to wait a decade or so.

 

[ccfcway]

See how dead CCFC is if we get to Wembley

exactly. We did it 30 years ago in the FA cup and this year we have a small chance of doing it in a absolute tin pot trophy that had less than 60,000 at the final last year yet we are saying CCFC fans are glory hunters for wanting to maybe go to a game fans of other clubs cant be bothered to go to. Hardly glory hunters

 

[ccfcway]

Just need to wait a decade or so.

so 20 years from now we will might be back in League one ?

 

[torchomatic]

so 20 years from now we will might be back in League one ?

And we might not be.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

It's where you and me differ. I go alone and sit alone. It's all about the football and nowt else.

You can therefore see why I am not at all keen on renewing as it stands.

It's not a social thing for me. It's all about going to watch my club with hope in my heart and a belief each season that we can make a fist of it and challenge at the right end of the table.

The thought of going now to an empty stadium, sitting by myself hoping we stay out of the bottom 4 is not going to exactly fill my boots unfortunately.

Come and sit with us we can cry together

 

[ccfcway]

And we might not be.

we might be in the premier league.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

The club isn't dead. We are absolutely struggling, we are in a terrible state with no obvious escape and we have owners who couldn't care what league we are in as long as income > expenditure.

It will never die on fan attendance alone, we might get relegated but there will always be a core who go no matter what, therefore we will reach an equilibrium where ticket sales > player sales and we plod along in whatever league that might be, until a miracle happens.

In fairness we were in dire straits last season yet it was in the background as we had on field success. We get that again and somehow sneak a play off or promotion and suddenly things look different.

Seasons like last are why there's hope. It's a slither, but it's there.

For the first time Iam actually worried that with TFs model we may slip out of the top 4 tiers of English football. Never really believed it before, but under our current management, you actually feel that the first thing that would happen if we go down to L2 would be how to 'balance the books', not how do we rebuild a team to get promoted. And if we go down, season tickets will be really hard to push.

 

[torchomatic]

we might be in the premier league

True enough.

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

Where do you sit Otis we will all come and sit with you

 

[Otis]

Where do you sit Otis we will all come and sit with you

Block 20.

You can't miss me, cos there's only about 5 fans in the whole block I think and 4 of them are women.