Why all this hysteria about SUSI? (2 Viewers)

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Skyblue4u

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All they are doing is to try and make our Club financially viable which everybody will have to do sooner or later. If League 1 is our natural level then blame the fans that don't bother to turn up each week and the people that took us to the Ricoh in the first place.


Expecting a knight in shining amour to pump millions in to the club for fun is what is killing Football.
 
SkyBlue_Bear83

SkyBlue_Bear83

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It is not just that it is when they spout absolute shit and expect us fans to lap it up.

"Andy will have the same budget as Aidy" Club
"King is signing" Club
"We will get a franchise player to replace King" Brody
"We want the club to challenge for the play offs" Brody
"We have an excellent squad" Duleiu
"Talks involving the stadium are good" Club. Then others come and say the complete opposite
"We will be looking to sign premiership loans"
"Leaving no stone unturned in loan search"
 
DazzleTommyDazzle

DazzleTommyDazzle

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Ok - let's put to one side the issues about the total lack of communication with the fans ("We've invited the Chairman to come onto the Breakfast Show or the Friday Phone-In or the Matchday Prog, but he has again declined.....) and let's address financial viability.

In the aforementioned absence of communication, we can only assess their "plan" on the basis of what we can see and what we see is a simple cutting of costs. I had my first FD's position almost 25 years ago and that was in a struggling engineering business, so I understand the importance of controlling costs, but I also understand the importance of having a viable business left once the costs have been cut. Otherwise, you'll find that your revenues will continue to decline and so you'll need to make more cuts and round and round you go.....
 
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The soothsayer

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What hysteria? Is discussing and debating the state of the club hysterical? if we are a business and not a football club, the board are failing on that basis as well. Your thread has been posted to be provocative.
 
Senior Vick from Alicante

Senior Vick from Alicante

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Skyblue4u said:
All they are doing is to try and make our Club financially viable which everybody will have to do sooner or later. If League 1 is our natural level then blame the fans that don't bother to turn up each week and the people that took us to the Ricoh in the first place.


Expecting a knight in shining amour to pump millions in to the club for fun is what is killing Football.
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No one is expecting a knight in shining armour. We want owners that are sensible that would re invest some of the profit from sales back in to the playing side of the club. Most contributors to this forum realise that we dont have an Abramovich on the horizon, but they also realise that you need a consistant product on the pitch to attract the paying public back. Do not blame the the fans that stay away who are constantly being fed a diet of broken promises for the failings of the owners, they have voted with their feet because of SISU not the team. If we were lucky enough to get a new owner in the near future this alone would probably put a couple of thousand back on the gate straight away. PUSB
 
Otis

Otis

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There is no hysteria about Susi. I quite like Susi.

Sisu is a different matter entirely though.
 
TheParsonsHose

TheParsonsHose

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Skyblue4u said:
All they are doing is to try and make our Club financially viable which everybody will have to do sooner or later. If League 1 is our natural level then blame the fans that don't bother to turn up each week and the people that took us to the Ricoh in the first place.


Expecting a knight in shining amour to pump millions in to the club for fun is what is killing Football.
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So making our club financially viable is giving long term contracts to players that are always injured, creating stange companies, not making a real effort to get the stadium (that should have been priority number 1), making false promises to fans (what do you think that does to the gates week on week?), having a board that changes almost every month?

You can argue all you want about fans not turning up but this is a blueprint of how not to manage a club. Saying we are getting ready for the financial rules to come is a great excuse that will be pulled out the hat sooner or later (again, because this has already been mentioned)

Do you see the F1 teams making next years changes this year to slow the cars down? A well managed entity factors this into the overall plan and doesn't use this as a fall back position when things go wrong. Jeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssss
 
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Skyblue4u

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Some very valid points about how the club is being run and I agree with them. Susi did pump money into the club at the beginning and started to build an exciting young team and yet we still couldn't anywhere near fill the ricoh even when we flirted with the play offs.

I hate to see the club in such a mess but without bums on seats we are in a spiral of decline seeking out our natural level.
 
coundonskyblue

coundonskyblue

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Skyblue4u said:
Some very valid points about how the club is being run and I agree with them. Susi did pump money into the club at the beginning and started to build an exciting young team and yet we still couldn't anywhere near fill the ricoh even when we flirted with the play offs.

I hate to see the club in such a mess but without bums on seats we are in a spiral of decline seeking out our natural level.
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The last home game before Sisu took over was a 1-0 defeat to Sheff Utd, the attendence was over 20k, very reasonable for a championship club don't you think?

Attendences fell gradually as more and more people began to see through Sisu.
 
Otis

Otis

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Just wondering if this is where it has all gone wrong.

They aren't paying any attention to the protests cos they think we are trying to get rid of some bird called Susi and it has nothing to do with them!!
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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To be honest, I think some of your points are valid. Apathy of our support and the selling of HR being just two. However, it's got to the point where no building of bridges - not that SISU ever try to do that - will get the fans (that are left) back on side. Whilst I certainly don't agree with fans boycotting games or not bothering to come anymore, well, it's up to them, I guess.

I agree with your last point too. There's no knight in shining armour. The Hoff - if it 'tis he who takes over - isn't doing it for the "love" of the Club, it'll be for what he and his investors can make.

Skyblue4u said:
All they are doing is to try and make our Club financially viable which everybody will have to do sooner or later. If League 1 is our natural level then blame the fans that don't bother to turn up each week and the people that took us to the Ricoh in the first place.


Expecting a knight in shining amour to pump millions in to the club for fun is what is killing Football.
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covcity4life

covcity4life

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lets say they do get losses down to say a million a year...we might look like a better bet for investers?

i dontt hink they are all evil
 
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Chipfat

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covcity4life said:
lets say they do get losses down to say a million a year...we might look like a better bet for investers?

i dontt hink they are all evil
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Lets say they get the losses down,,,,,FFS the only thing that is going down is the team and any money gained by cutting the wage bill will be lost in the 5million a year the championship brings.... Its ok to have an opinion but if you cannot see that SISU do not care and are trying every trick in the book to get some money back is blind, they have gambled and lost they now need to leave... Also isnt it strange all from ACL, Council ,GR and now the trust have came out and demanded answer's about the clubs future, all are starting to stack up and are pissed off with the false statment KD keeps making...
 
SkyBlue_Bear83

SkyBlue_Bear83

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covcity4life said:
lets say they do get losses down to say a million a year...we might look like a better bet for investers?

i dontt hink they are all evil
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The money lost through relegation will be worse for the club than the 1-1.5 million pound or so that could have been spent in the summer to give us a fighting chance of staying up imo.
 
ccfcway

ccfcway

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I went there a few years ago..

No hysteria from me, I have to say it was one of the niciest buffets I have ever had, and the rooms were more than adequate in size.

I was so impressed I commented on trip advisor...

If any of you get a chance to stay there, I reccomend it, you wont hear me badmouthing the place !

http://www.susi.ee/?id=0&lang=eng
 
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