What's with us and penalties? (1 Viewer)

[Kingokings204]

So how come our penalty record is so bad? Is it right that is 1 scored in the last 6 penalties? I assume that 1 being Madine last week. We never seem to get pens but when we do we miss.

Can you remember any penalties and scorers or even penalty incidents?

I seem to remember vaguely dion Dublin always going bottom right and always scoring.

 

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[ccfcway]

just guessing, but might be something to do with a lack of a decision on a specific taker.

You cant have "whoever feels like it". Next thing you know, Willis will be taking corners

 

[percy]

we need to buy a penalty taker before the end of the transfer window

 

[The Gentleman]

Problem is if Pressley decides on a penalty taker, he then won't play for 8 games, get told he is then in the 'bomb' squad only to get picked because of injuries after being told he can leave, score twice and then get told he is the best finisher Pressley has ever seen and the club will try everything to sign on a further loan period till the end of the season but he can leave then.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

just guessing, but might be something to do with a lack of a decision on a specific taker.

You cant have "whoever feels like it". Next thing you know, Willis will be taking corners

Well Willis was taking free kicks in attacking shooting positions today so it isn't as absurd as it seems.

 

[torchomatic]

Madine scored last week so was natural choice this week. He missed. It happens.

 

[ccfcway]

Well Willis was taking free kicks in attacking shooting positions today so it isn't as absurd as it seems.

yep, that was my point :sarcasm:

 

[ccfcway]

Madine scored last week so was natural choice this week. He missed. It happens.

it does, 5 out of 6 times recently

 

[torchomatic]

Granted and that includes Baker. My point is Madine stepped up after scoring last week. The ones before that don't really matter.

it does, 5 out of 6 times recently

 

[pusbccfc]

What is it with us being bloody awful?

 

[Kingokings204]

What were our last penalty misses before today? Obviously reda against yeovil springs to mind.

 

[ccfcway]

Granted and that includes Baker. My point is Madine stepped up after scoring last week. The ones before that don't really matter.

so the reda, tudgay etc misses dont matter but the last one scored does ?

I'd argue the Madine pen he scored didnt matter as we lost the game !

 

[Kingokings204]

Completely forgot about the tudgay miss.

I believe the last one scored was Carl baker against gillingham away last year 4-2 loss.

 

[torchomatic]

I'm saying they seemed to have settled on Madine, so no one else was going to take it today. If he stays he should remain penalty taker, I reckon.

so the reda, tudgay etc misses dont matter but the last one scored does ?

 

[ccfcway]

Completely forgot about the tudgay miss.

I believe the last one scored was Carl baker against gillingham away last year 4-2 loss.

Madine scored last week

 

[The Gentleman]

Thank fuck we have never had a penalty shoot out this season!

 

[rob9872]

I've been pessimistic with pens for as long as I can remember. Always convinced that if opposition get one they'll score, if it's us, we'll miss! :-(

 

[Kingokings204]

I've been pessimistic with pens for as long as I can remember. Always convinced that if opposition get one they'll score, if it's us, we'll miss! :-(

Yes you can't help it can you. We should of won today 1-0 via a pen but we can't. Should of won 1-0 last week via a pen last week and lost.

I think back and rochdale away this season. They scored a penalty between two poor teams and they win 1-0. Maybe that's why they are top half and we aren't.

 

[ccfcway]

Yes you can't help it can you. We should of won today 1-0 via a pen but we can't. Should of won 1-0 last week via a pen last week and lost.

I think back and rochdale away this season. They scored a penalty between two poor teams and they win 1-0. Maybe that's why they are top half and we aren't.

not sure i can agree than pens are much of a reason why we are fighting relegation and not top half

 

[Kingokings204]

not sure i can agree than pens are much of a reason why we are fighting relegation and not top half

That's not point, my point is that rochdale in my opinion are no better than us on paper or in reality. We are two pretty poor to average teams but taking chances and learning to scrap and kick games 1-0 and taking that 1 chance a game. One team can be top half and one team can be bottom half.

As a few posters have said there isn't anything between 22nd and 6th in this league. I agree. Shows bad on Steven Pressley imo.

 

[ccfcway]

Shows bad on Steven Pressley imo.

agree completely.

 

[mrtrench]

A penalty kick must be the ultimate test of confidence. The entire squad is low on that so it stands to reason we should miss many.

 

[rob9872]

I blame Pressley for much of the matchday disappointment, but professional footballers consistently missing a spot kick from point blank range can not seriously be levelled at him. And as for pressure its hardly the world cup final.



No idea how poor we were today as I wasn't there, but away from home with a clean sheet and a gilt edged opportunity like a pen to win it, well I guess as a coach pre kick off you'd take that all day long.

 

[Hobo]

It can't be the players fault, it has to be Pressleys.
I think it is down to the formation. The penalty taker is having to start his run from too deep a position. Often the penalty taker is being played out of position. The penalty taker doesn't understand the tactics. The penalty taker hasn't the skill level to cope with the tactics. The penalty taker is playing in an isolated position because of the tactics. The penalty takers bomb squad has split the squad. Pressley always makes it sound like we are good at penalties when he should be saying we are utter shite at them. If we do score from a penalty SISU will just sell him anyway. It should be noted players who have missed for us have scored penalties for other teams, so must be down to Pressley's tactics.

now for a stab at our shit fans, glory hunters who only turn up for penalties in cup games....where were they Yesterday, probably watching Andy Goode miss a penalty for Wasps at the Ricoh...hypocrites!

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Part of the problem must come when they are practicing them at Ryton as they must score every time as our keepers never save any and never look like saving them so when they get to the match the keeper has the advantage he can save the ball so it must come as a bit of a shock.

I would have Fleck taking them but somebody will need to cut the bungee rope which keeps him five yards from the half way line.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Madine scored last week

If you watch the penalty kick....He misshit it too.

 

[johnwillomagic]

Problem is no-one has scored enough goals or converted enough to be a regular taker but do agree we should have one.

I think it should be Job sure he used to take them for Barnsley followed by Jackson as he used to take them.
I do not think a loan player should take them ideally but as others have pointed out Madine scored his last one so
in my book if you score you stay the penalty taker till you miss one, so see why he took it yesterday, someone else's turn now!!

 

[johnwillomagic]

tbf if he misshit himself too can see why he might have been distracted on run up

 

[robbiethemole]

McSheffrey could usually put them away, straight down the middle with power....................mind you, he did PRACTICE them !!!!!

 

[torchomatic]

And he got crucified on here when he missed one at Portsmouth, didn't he?

McSheffrey could usually put them away, straight down the middle with power....................mind you, he did PRACTICE them !!!!!

 

[Gazolba]

It all comes down to mismanagement and very poor planning. We should have a dedicated penalty specialist. It's up to Pressley how he chooses that person. But he must have the right physical and mental attributes. You need someone with a cool head (that is NOT Madine) and a powerful accurate shot. Surely there is someone in the team? There is no better chance to score than from a penalty. The best penalty taker we ever had was Ron Farmer. He hardly ever missed. I think he missed only one in his entire career at CCFC.
But it's not just penalties! We are terrible at all set pieces, free-kicks and corner-kicks are equally bad. Statistically, most goals are scored from set pieces, so you would think that would be a priority to practice, and we would pick the best person to take these kicks.

 

[SBT]

Madine's penalty yesterday was clearly a slip on a bad pitch, not too concerned about that. And I'm yet to see much evidence that practicing penalties produces concrete results. But long-term, missing so many penalties over such a long stretch of time is a big enough statistical aberration for me to think it warrants closer scrutiny - frankly I'd be worried if the coaching staff weren't. And it's certainly a broader problem if we don't have a dedicated set-piece specialist in the squad, as appears to be the case right now.

 

[Gazolba]

And I'm yet to see much evidence that practicing penalties produces concrete results.

Since when does practicing anything not produce better results? It's just common sense! But with penalties there is a strong mental aspect so you have to pick the right player.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Should not be too hard for a management team to work out who takes a decent spot kick. Even at Sunday league level. you always knew who you felt would/wouldn't trust (can you tell I've hung up my boots, from the past tense!). With regards to set pieces - again, I feel it should be obvious who can deliver a decent cross/have a shot, from the hours on a training pitch - pick the player, stick with it, and the pressure is surely eased for them if they know it isn't going to be chopped and changed. In addition to that, a bit like a golfer, they should be able to find their range quicker if they are taking all of them. I know we don't have a Beckham, but there was a reason he always took all of the set pieces.