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Jack Griffin
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That's an oxymoron if ever I saw one.
Time for common sense from us fans! (1 Viewer)
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That's an oxymoron if ever I saw one.
Tommystours
Active Member
Good posting skyblueswiss.i understand finance and what corporates do to avoid tax and use the systems in the UK to make money.through layering
companies (legally)I am really torn between accepting what SISU have done to my great club, and thinking about what ACL and CCC have been trying to achieve in their actions.This does not make me feel like son of snoz,(is it Neil ?.) , but I am not totally For NOPM , although that is what I have done so far.
This is my 50th year supporting and being a fan of my beloved sky blues, and I have made the decision not to go to Shitfields , I want city back in Cov.i am only intending to go to away games,until something drastic happens.
It may well be that I have to eat humble pie and watch city at home at he Ricoh while SISU carry out part of their plan to get some ownership of the Ricoh and then sell on to a group who at least care a little about my team playing in Cov.
It is difficult for lots of fans , but we are not doing ourselves any favours by ranting and slagging off other sky blue fans on his forum(although good banter is accepted)PUSB
companies (legally)I am really torn between accepting what SISU have done to my great club, and thinking about what ACL and CCC have been trying to achieve in their actions.This does not make me feel like son of snoz,(is it Neil ?.) , but I am not totally For NOPM , although that is what I have done so far.
This is my 50th year supporting and being a fan of my beloved sky blues, and I have made the decision not to go to Shitfields , I want city back in Cov.i am only intending to go to away games,until something drastic happens.
It may well be that I have to eat humble pie and watch city at home at he Ricoh while SISU carry out part of their plan to get some ownership of the Ricoh and then sell on to a group who at least care a little about my team playing in Cov.
It is difficult for lots of fans , but we are not doing ourselves any favours by ranting and slagging off other sky blue fans on his forum(although good banter is accepted)PUSB
italiahorse
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SISU need to see what there customers want.
At the end of the day they rely on customers to support there business.
Staying away from Northampton, filling the away allocation, surveys and marches all show SISU what there customers want.
More importantly staying away from Northampton shows SISU what there customers don't want.
At the end of the day they rely on customers to support there business.
Staying away from Northampton, filling the away allocation, surveys and marches all show SISU what there customers want.
More importantly staying away from Northampton shows SISU what there customers don't want.
No son of Snoz would come out with such a load of bollocks !
I understand your thoughts and I am sure some will be tempted but this is not the answer, I personally have my own views and thoughts regarding our present owners. However, my only thoughts at present is getting my team back to our City as I honestly believe they will never come back if we go to Northampton on mass.
The concept of all going one game with a view to making a statement should be considered but not to pack the place out to keep Fisher in pocket money.
We are a proud people with history and must stay strong.
The only way they will come back is if no fans went and the spineless FL found some balls, but if the place was empty except away fans and a few wives you watch the FL back down?
Sky Blue Harry H
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....still here? They've only played one game 'away' at Sixfields - give us a chance to shift them !
Covstu
Well-Known Member
I now what your saying but I really don't think we will ever play at the Ricoh. The council have tried their best to attack SISU and not give in to their demands (whether they were reasonable or not is irrelevant but it cost us 10 points). They wont sell the ground to SISU which would be the ideal scenario given the current situation but again not going to happen. SISU wont rent because it is dead money (fair point) so I think we could be out of Coventry for while. Personally I still wont go but I feel gutted I am missing my team.
Stevearcade
New Member
I think this is a fair summary. Well put.
I've highlighted what I take to be key points, in the hope it doesn't provoke a SISU hater backlash. I'm not taking sides as I think both sides have behaved with appalling immaturity. We're not likely to have a change in command and Otium probably could buy the Ricoh outright if given the chance. They might not have the funds, but I bet they could raise them if they had the chance to buy. And if SISU/Otium did own the arena, all of this would be forgotten in no time, bygones would be bygones and we could just get on with everything, playing in our own City, in our own Stadium and fighting for promotion... It would be the simplest solution. Even if we did get rid of SISU, a new club owner would still have to rent the Ricoh from the council wouldn't they? The situation wouldn't really be massively different.
WiganSkyBlue
Member
The cracks are showing :facepalm: Couple of wins and let's forget the recent past - still only away games for me.
NOPM - STARVE THE BUGGERS OUT
jaytskyblue
New Member
Cov fans have made it crystal clear they will not go to Sixfields, in fans forums, polls, marches and in action.
Sisu wanted the Ricoh and aren't going to get it.
The only way out is for Sisu to sell up and get out.
NOPM
Sisu wanted the Ricoh and aren't going to get it.
The only way out is for Sisu to sell up and get out.
NOPM
play_in_skyblue_stripes
Well-Known Member
You cannot win long term against the power of people.
Lots of examples,poll tax ,soviet union and others.
Morally SISU are in the wrong. They are not Coventry City. The fans and the city of Coventry is COVENTRY CITY.
Stand tall Sky Blue army, we are in the right. We will win.
Maybe taking the comparisons too far, but currently in Gdansk. The people fought and eventually won. The same will happen. I sense even the establishment are getting concerned about tactics used by SISU.
PUSB and NOPM.
Lots of examples,poll tax ,soviet union and others.
Morally SISU are in the wrong. They are not Coventry City. The fans and the city of Coventry is COVENTRY CITY.
Stand tall Sky Blue army, we are in the right. We will win.
Maybe taking the comparisons too far, but currently in Gdansk. The people fought and eventually won. The same will happen. I sense even the establishment are getting concerned about tactics used by SISU.
PUSB and NOPM.
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cloughie
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At last someone with the intelligence to see the reason why sisu are still here,
some of us knew this to be true, yet some will hide their heads in denial
simple_simon
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simple_simon
New Member
What the hell are you on about?
By not going it might save our club, otherwise we are finished.
covmark
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great post, well put mate
Otis
Well-Known Member
Understand your argument, but unfortunately I don't think for a single second that if we filled Sixfields every week that Sisu would bring us home.
They seem adamant that there will be no deal unless it included talks about part stadium ownership. Can't see that packing Sixfields every week will make any difference whatsoever to our coming home quickly. If we filled Sixfields it would still be just 7,000 and I don't think it would change anyone's thinking at all.
What I think IS needed is a promise from fans that if the club comes home we'll pack the Ricoh.
THAT is what is needed. Not holding my breath though. That might change things. Can't see how you can make that be anything than a promise of words though, unless a ST purchase thing could be put in place before we returned.
Had we packed the Ricoh we wouldn't be in the mess we are now. IF we DID pack the Rioch that also makes us a much more desirable package for any would be buyer.
I reckon a lot of those that are going to sixfields probably aren't from the city of Coventry so really dp not understand the heartbreak off us coventrians losing our club. Infact i reckon the fans from outside of the city really wouldn't care if sisu moved us out of the city permanently.
georgehudson
Well-Known Member
better name for the outfit may be,
sisu nomads
sisu nomads
covmark
Well-Known Member
biggest crock of shit I've ever read on here, only thing that isn't surprising is it came from you valiant
simple_simon
New Member
Warwickshire Bears is a registered name, also the original name of the Coventry Jets, formed in 1982.
simple_simon
New Member
I agree the majority of fans from outside the City are very much behind the stay away from Northampton stance.
No future with SISU
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No future with SISU
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Go to support the team at Shrewsbury, it is only 60 miles away not much further than northampton. Support the lads there, so you will not have to go to Northampton.
WiganSkyBlue
Member
Jeez - don't mention how far away Shrewsbury is, you'll put ideas in the dark lord/lady's head :facepalm:
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Most of the SBT types are made up of those from outside of Cov. They're so desperate to be accepted.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
We're one game in...
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
What does that even mean?
James Smith
Well-Known Member
I think the reason for taking the club to Northampton is the SISU version of NOPM only theirs is aimed at ACL. Given there isn't any business case for the move to Sixfields, the only reason that Sisu could have for moving us is that they're hoping to distress ACL further. They allegedly want the Ricoh freehold and if the lack of our club playing there doesn't cause ACL enough financial difficulties the next logical step is to try that old favourite of the courts and lawyers.
That's why I think they're covering the costs of being at Northampton because they know that they won't make as much as they can at the Ricoh even with a full house and will have to make up the shortfall. I doubt that they are keen to keep putting money in to fund almost all the costs of playing at Sixfields. At the moment I would guess that the club are looking at any way to get bums on seats at NTFC in an attempt to get the appearance of increasing levels of support. The more people they can get in the early days then more are likely to see this and think they'll go too. Since they've seen lot's of other people there, the guilt of them going to Sixfields and abandoning NOPM has been somewhat lessened as they're not the only ones. If that means handing out tickets for next to nothing, or offering 2 games for the price of one that's fine even if they're not going to become regular supporters. What they will want to attract are lapsed season ticketholders and die hard fans who have stayed away.
So the fact that we're not going will be forcing them to put more money in which is the only way we have of punishing them for taking our club out of our city.
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IrishSkyBlue
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When ever i do get back over to england i really want to see my beloved team play but why should my money go into sisu & northamptons pockets just to see it wasted so sisu can laugh and try get the richo then once they get what they want sell all our assests and dump us till were dead which they have all ready nearly done.
Sisued
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SISUs investors are unlikely to be extremely rich individuals. More likely to be pension funds etc thatare under SISU management. So yes they have the cash but that cash will be in a very diversified portfolio of which CCFC is one entity. There will come a point where the funding of CCFC dries up as it will adversley affect SISus performance.
NOPM will work (assuming ACL doesnt collapse) but it will take time.
NOPM will work (assuming ACL doesnt collapse) but it will take time.
bigfatronssba
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If we all went and filled sixfields, what motive is there for sisu to move back?
IrishSkyBlue
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It would never happen if i spent my hard earned money to go down there and not get in be a waste of petrol plus i wouldnt want to be hanging around outside the ground while the match is on when i could be in my comfy home watching sp and not spending money 
