Sky Blue Trust ? (1 Viewer)

[slyblue57]

I joined the Sky Blue Trust at the last Home game , signed up in the Casino before the game.
I had a brief chat with one of the Trust and told him that I disagree with quite a lot of what they are promoting or at least what they seem to promote in particular the point that we (City) do nt need to own the Stadium. I m glad Sisu drew a line and said the rents to high i m glad they took on the Council who I still believe have not got any intention to sell any part of the Ricoh to anyone , not Sisu not anyone.
I do believe theres a place for the Trust, they need numbers to voice an opinion from a position of strength. Now I think Sisu need to go albeit I think this season they ve not been too bad , well compared to the previous seasons where they were awful. I am still glad that when this shit all ends the club wo nt be held to ransom by Acl and the Council. Roll on new owners, hopefully and yes Im a vilified season ticket holder of many years and yes I ll be getting a new one where ever we end up playing. I do nt like the Ricoh particularly another Council rip off no parking etc
Pusb
Join the Trust even if you do nt agree with them !!!!

 

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[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

I joined the Sky Blue Trust at the last Home game , signed up in the Casino before the game.
I had a brief chat with one of the Trust and told him that I disagree with quite a lot of what they are promoting or at least what they seem to promote in particular the point that we (City) do nt need to own the Stadium. I m glad Sisu drew a line and said the rents to high i m glad they took on the Council who I still believe have not got any intention to sell any part of the Ricoh to anyone , not Sisu not anyone.
I do believe theres a place for the Trust, they need numbers to voice an opinion from a position of strength. Now I think Sisu need to go albeit I think this season they ve not been too bad , well compared to the previous seasons where they were awful. I am still glad that when this shit all ends the club wo nt be held to ransom by Acl and the Council. Roll on new owners, hopefully and yes Im a vilified season ticket holder of many years and yes I ll be getting a new one where ever we end up playing. I do nt like the Ricoh particularly another Council rip off no parking etc
Pusb
Join the Trust even if you do nt agree with them !!!!

Join the Trust even if you dont agree with them? You either do or dont your post is ridiculous

 

[@richh87]

Right now as long as The Trust are prepared to question this (allegedly!)crap administrator then I'm right behind them.

We'll never all agree on the little issues, but we all agree on the big ones and need a voice.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

I joined the Sky Blue Trust at the last Home game , signed up in the Casino before the game.
I had a brief chat with one of the Trust and told him that I disagree with quite a lot of what they are promoting or at least what they seem to promote in particular the point that we (City) do nt need to own the Stadium. I m glad Sisu drew a line and said the rents to high i m glad they took on the Council who I still believe have not got any intention to sell any part of the Ricoh to anyone , not Sisu not anyone.
I do believe theres a place for the Trust, they need numbers to voice an opinion from a position of strength. Now I think Sisu need to go albeit I think this season they ve not been too bad , well compared to the previous seasons where they were awful. I am still glad that when this shit all ends the club wo nt be held to ransom by Acl and the Council. Roll on new owners, hopefully and yes Im a vilified season ticket holder of many years and yes I ll be getting a new one where ever we end up playing. I do nt like the Ricoh particularly another Council rip off no parking etc
Pusb
Join the Trust even if you do nt agree with them !!!!

So what do you think that they are promoting apart from a fans voice

 

[SkyBlueAde]

I was going to join the SB Trust via the website, but was put off by the amount of personal details they were asking for, plus the application page didn't appear to have an SSL certificate in place (to encrypt your personal details between your browser and their server).

Also when I wanted to read the Terms and Conditions - it's a broken link (sigh)

Sadly, I'll pass.

 

[slyblue57]

Do nt think so.
The Trust are supposed to take all fans views into account.
I disagree with some things particularly we do nt need to own our own ground.
I agree with other things they promote, i.e stop the pissing contest and work out a new deal that benefits the club
or certain parties preferably Sisu sell up.
Thanks for your input BHSB

 

[SkyBlueAde]

Do nt think so.
The Trust are supposed to take all fans views into account.
I disagree with some things particularly we do nt need to own our own ground.
I agree with other things they promote, i.e stop the pissing contest and work out a new deal that benefits the club
or certain parties preferably Sisu sell up.
Thanks for your input BHSB

Not much effort needed to add the 'o' into your 'nt's. It would make your posts ever so slightly easier to read

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Do nt think so.
The Trust are supposed to take all fans views into account.
I disagree with some things particularly we do nt need to own our own ground.
I agree with other things they promote, i.e stop the pissing contest and work out a new deal that benefits the club
or certain parties preferably Sisu sell up.
Thanks for your input BHSB

They do take all fans views into account I just thought it strange that you would say join the trust even if you dont agree with it if you had said even if you dont agree with everything I could understand. I dont agree with everything but I am a member not owning the stadium or part of it is not as I understand the trusts stance correct me if I'm wrong any trust members

 

[Nick]

I was going to join the SB Trust via the website, but was put off by the amount of personal details they were asking for, plus the application page didn't appear to have an SSL certificate in place (to encrypt your personal details between your browser and their server).

Also when I wanted to read the Terms and Conditions - it's a broken link (sigh)

Sadly, I'll pass.

I pointed this out a while back so used a false address!

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

So what do you think that they are promoting apart from a fans voice

Out of curiosity, how do the Trust decide what line to take?

Do they:

- Set line based on its elected leaders? Which wouldn't necessarily be the fans' voice.
- Have a vote of all it's members to decide? Direct democracy, but is this practical?

Just wondering, it'd be nice of I could get an official answer

 

[georgehudson]

& does anyone want to join the - joy seppala trust ?

 

[Bluegloucester]

Joy and trust in the same sentence?

 

[StevieM]

I was going to join the SB Trust via the website, but was put off by the amount of personal details they were asking for, plus the application page didn't appear to have an SSL certificate in place (to encrypt your personal details between your browser and their server).

Also when I wanted to read the Terms and Conditions - it's a broken link (sigh)

Sadly, I'll pass.

There is a link/facility to pay your membership fee using Paypal - I did and they haven't been on any Caribbean holidays or hired any naughty ladys services at my expense.....yet :facepalm:
It could just be the best quid that you will spend,after all it's a tiny amount that could give us a voice in the running of the club one day.

 

[psgm1]

It is ridiculous to imply these guys are "the voice of the people" - they CLEARLY aren't. It is basically the sounding board for ONE person and ALWAYS has been. Have you ever tried putting a differing position to the SBT? Boy are they vitriolic! How DARE you disagree with the trust!

And what precisely have they ACTUALLY achieved? They have ALREADY dropped their pledge purpose for existence! It was set up QUOTE "as a LAST RESORT". When did this cease to be the case?

Its all a power trip for the clique at the top. MUST BE - they hold their meetings in a place INCAPABLE of housing all the members! The only way they are "elected" was when they were first formed. Supposedly 1000's of fans yet NO further votes - funny that!

They are trying to get a seat on the board by the back door - but what if that seat could be filled by someone providing much needed funds to the club?

Why aren't they advocating a share issue for fans? Surely THEN they could claim to be democratic, but until they think of the FANS before their own SELFISH desire for power, they are BAD for the club, and should be avoided by the plague!

But they have no intention of pushing for a share issue, because they smell power, and like parasites, will not let go until they get bite of the cherry.

They are simply self serving parasites

 

[Flying Fokker]

Do nt think so.
The Trust are supposed to take all fans views into account.
I disagree with some things particularly we do nt need to own our own ground.
I agree with other things they promote, i.e stop the pissing contest and work out a new deal that benefits the club
or certain parties preferably Sisu sell up.
Thanks for your input BHSB

Why did you join?

 

[jackmartin]

top post,the reason i wont join is that people they have on thier so called board

 

[Steve.B50]

I pointed this out a while back so used a false address!

I will bring this up at the meeting on Monday as not aware of any issues.

 

[Steve.B50]

It is ridiculous to imply these guys are "the voice of the people" - they CLEARLY aren't. It is basically the sounding board for ONE person and ALWAYS has been. Have you ever tried putting a differing position to the SBT? Boy are they vitriolic! How DARE you disagree with the trust!

And what precisely have they ACTUALLY achieved? They have ALREADY dropped their pledge purpose for existence! It was set up QUOTE "as a LAST RESORT". When did this cease to be the case?

o?.
Its all a power trip for the clique at the top. MUST BE - they hold their meetings in a place INCAPABLE of housing all the members! The only way they are "elected" was when they were first formed. Supposedly 1000's of fans yet NO further votes - funny that!

They are trying to get a seat on the board by the back door - but what if that seat could be filled by someone providing much needed funds to the club?

Why aren't they advocating a share issue for fans? Surely THEN they could claim to be democratic, but until they think of the FANS before their own SELFISH desire for power, they are BAD for the club, and should be avoided by the plague!

But they have no intention of pushing for a share issue, because they smell power, and like parasites, will not let go until they get bite of the cherry.

They are simply self serving parasites

Am sorry you do not agree with the what we stand for psgm1, but if you wish to meet one uf us I am sure we could expliun our position in more detail?.

 

[Steve.B50]

Out of curiosity, how do the Trust decide what line to take?

Do they:

- Set line based on its elected leaders? Which wouldn't necessarily be the fans' voice.
- Have a vote of all it's members to decide? Direct democracy, but is this practical?

Just wondering, it'd be nice of I could get an official answer

SkyBlue Taylor
Thats a valid point and has been discussed many times between ourselves and members.
Can I suggest you try and get along to one of our open meetings as am sure we would encourage your input and comments?
As you know I do not agree (yes we have met) with some of the things you have said but its obvious your an intelegent young man and I am always happy to answer anything you may wish to enquire about.

 

[theferret]

It is ridiculous to imply these guys are "the voice of the people" - they CLEARLY aren't. It is basically the sounding board for ONE person and ALWAYS has been. Have you ever tried putting a differing position to the SBT? Boy are they vitriolic! How DARE you disagree with the trust!

And what precisely have they ACTUALLY achieved? They have ALREADY dropped their pledge purpose for existence! It was set up QUOTE "as a LAST RESORT". When did this cease to be the case?

Its all a power trip for the clique at the top. MUST BE - they hold their meetings in a place INCAPABLE of housing all the members! The only way they are "elected" was when they were first formed. Supposedly 1000's of fans yet NO further votes - funny that!

They are trying to get a seat on the board by the back door - but what if that seat could be filled by someone providing much needed funds to the club?

Why aren't they advocating a share issue for fans? Surely THEN they could claim to be democratic, but until they think of the FANS before their own SELFISH desire for power, they are BAD for the club, and should be avoided by the plague!

But they have no intention of pushing for a share issue, because they smell power, and like parasites, will not let go until they get bite of the cherry.

They are simply self serving parasites

Yeah, but apart from all that they're alright?

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm far from convinced. I joined a month or so ago and have heard nothing since. I suppose I could be a bit more pro-active and check the website though.

It is a reality of these things that you will get a small clique at the top that never seems to change - there is a sense of entitlement that comes from being there at the very start and a feeling that they are owed for putting in so much work - and I can understand that to a certain degree, and that doesn't make them bad people.

At this moment in time there are more important things happening, but when things have settled down you would like to think that they will remain true to their democratic ethos and there will be challenges to the leadership, proper and open elections and that each member gets a vote (a proper vote, not a show of hands in a cramped room in a meeting most people were not told about).

Until it is demonstrated that this will not happen, they have my support.

 

[torchomatic]

And only 29 people turned up at the film night.*


*even though it was nothing to do with the Trust. :facepalm:

It is ridiculous to imply these guys are "the voice of the people" - they CLEARLY aren't. It is basically the sounding board for ONE person and ALWAYS has been. Have you ever tried putting a differing position to the SBT? Boy are they vitriolic! How DARE you disagree with the trust!

And what precisely have they ACTUALLY achieved? They have ALREADY dropped their pledge purpose for existence! It was set up QUOTE "as a LAST RESORT". When did this cease to be the case?

Its all a power trip for the clique at the top. MUST BE - they hold their meetings in a place INCAPABLE of housing all the members! The only way they are "elected" was when they were first formed. Supposedly 1000's of fans yet NO further votes - funny that!

They are trying to get a seat on the board by the back door - but what if that seat could be filled by someone providing much needed funds to the club?

Why aren't they advocating a share issue for fans? Surely THEN they could claim to be democratic, but until they think of the FANS before their own SELFISH desire for power, they are BAD for the club, and should be avoided by the plague!

But they have no intention of pushing for a share issue, because they smell power, and like parasites, will not let go until they get bite of the cherry.

They are simply self serving parasites

 

[Steve.B50]

top post,the reason i wont join is that people they have on thier so called board

jackmartin; Can I ask why your not keen on who is on board?
We are here because we were voted on and most of us are more than happy to step down if and when possible as being on the Trust Board takes up a great deal of time. I would much rather be just a member of the trust and carry on supporting the club, but in these difficult times some people need to do more than just be a supporter.
It concerns me that some people feel the way you do and I personally would be more than happy to discuss your concerns, am sure you will see I am just a normall fan like yourself.

 

[stevo_ccfc]

jackmartin; Can I ask why your not keen on who is on board?
We are here because we were voted on and most of us are more than happy to step down if and when possible as being on the Trust Board takes up a great deal of time. I would much rather be just a member of the trust and carry on supporting the club, but in these difficult times some people need to do more than just be a supporter.
It concerns me that some people feel the way you do and I personally would be more than happy to discuss your concerns, am sure you will see I am just a normall fan like yourself.

I think the old trust have clouded peoples opinions, Natalie cox did a lot of damage to the public image.

What needs to be known is its a new broom now

 

[duffer]

Total respect to SkyBlue57, who joined the trust despite disagreeing with some of the things he thinks they stand for. That's about a thousand times better in my book than calling someone you've probably never met, and can hardly be bothered to listen to, a "self-serving parasite".

As for the people at the 'top'; here's my experience of these things, fwiw:

The people who tend to get elected are the ones who usually work the hardest for the cause - the boring stuff like attending meetings, setting up websites, writing updates, standing out in the cold trying to get new members, having the bottle to front up to journos, and not least take sh*t from some of the keyboard warriors here.

If you're willing to do those sort of things, then get up there and do them. I reckon the odds are that if you ever fancy the hassle of being on the SBT board you'll get a decent number of votes.

 

[ashbyjan]

Just to be clear Natalie is no longer a Trust board member nor has she been since the "new" Trust resurrected itself. As Steve says if anyone has skills that they feel would add to the boards current skill set then please get in touch. We feel we have a good mix of ages, abilities, strengths but as with every fledgling organisation (and please remember we have only really been going 9 months) we will make mistakes but we are learning from them and will try not to repeat them.

Despite what some may feel we are very open to new ideas and input. All our contact details are on the Trust website but if anyone wants to get in for touch with me directly either PM me here or email me at [email protected]

I would urge anyone with an interest in what we are trying to achieve to come to an open meeting, meet us and fellow Trust members - remember at the heart of this is not some fanciful desire for world domination from our lair at the base of a dormant volcano but the simple fact that we are all Cov fans who love and care about our club. If the opportunity ever arises for the Trust to have a representative on the club board then please be assured that the method for choosing that member would be totally democratic and open.

 

[ajsccfc]

I'm not a member of the trust, but psgm1 shouted at me for being one. Don't pay him any attention.

 

[lordsummerisle]

Join the Trust even if you dont agree with them? You either do or dont your post is ridiculous

Joining the Trust if you don't agree with them is the only to facilitate any change to them that you would agree with surely?

Or is only one point of view allowed?

 

[lordsummerisle]

Just to be clear Natalie is no longer a Trust board member nor has she been since the "new" Trust resurrected itself. As Steve says if anyone has skills that they feel would add to the boards current skill set then please get in touch. We feel we have a good mix of ages, abilities, strengths but as with every fledgling organisation (and please remember we have only really been going 9 months) we will make mistakes but we are learning from them and will try not to repeat them.

Despite what some may feel we are very open to new ideas and input. All our contact details are on the Trust website but if anyone wants to get in for touch with me directly either PM me here or email me at [email protected]

I would urge anyone with an interest in what we are trying to achieve to come to an open meeting, meet us and fellow Trust members - remember at the heart of this is not some fanciful desire for world domination from our lair at the base of a dormant volcano but the simple fact that we are all Cov fans who love and care about our club. If the opportunity ever arises for the Trust to have a representative on the club board then please be assured that the method for choosing that member would be totally democratic and open.

It was the lair at the base of a dormant volcano and the chance to wear a rather fetching bright red jumpsuit that was attracting me to the Trust to be honest.

 

[theferret]

It was the lair at the base of a dormant volcano and the chance to wear a rather fetching bright red jumpsuit that was attracting me to the Trust to be honest.

But only if there were midgets too. Every self-respecting football supporters collective should have a midget.

 

[ashbyjan]

Sorry the jump suits are Sky Blue - too predictable I know! As for people of restricted growth - we do not descriminate on grounds of height, weight, race, sex or nay other grounds except maybe football affiliation!! We did have a joining ceremony that involved a goat, a rubber glove and a checking for sky blue blood but after we were fooled by Mark Robins and the goat got pregnant we have resorted to a simple form and a pound!

 

[lordsummerisle]

Sorry the jump suits are Sky Blue - too predictable I know! As for people of restricted growth - we do not descriminate on grounds of height, weight, race, sex or nay other grounds except maybe football affiliation!! We did have a joining ceremony that involved a goat, a rubber glove and a checking for sky blue blood but after we were fooled by Mark Robins and the goat got pregnant we have resorted to a simple form and a pound!

Can Mormons join?

 

[ashbyjan]

I joined and I'm a moron - sorry you said Mormon! No problem as long as all wives become members too! All religions welcome except maybe one involving David Ike and lizard people!

 

[lordsummerisle]

I joined and I'm a moron - sorry you said Mormon! No problem as long as all wives become members too! All religions welcome except maybe one involving David Ike and lizard people!

Jack Griffin, The Mormonfinder General will be dunking people in the canal next to the Ricoh to check that they're not Mormon/Sisu sympathisers now though.

Which will reduce the membership somewhat as his test involves holding them under water for 10 minutes, if they drown they're innocent, if they don't they're Mormons and he'll burn them.

To be fair, would expect a bit more for my quid than that.

 

[jackmartin]

there are a couple on there that abuse people who dont want to join and it happened to me when they had the sisu out 15 min boycottlast season, yet at half time when it was still surpozed to go on by jimmy hill, there was noone there

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Joining the Trust if you don't agree with them is the only to facilitate any change to them that you would agree with surely?

Or is only one point of view allowed?

So you are a member of a nomber of organizations that you dont agree with using your argument I should become an investor in Sisu to facilitate change good idea. Joy I expect a fantastic return for my pound and no matter what your views are you will listen only to mine.