It’s mental health. It’s not a one size fits all thing even within the same illness, everything is on a spectrum.1 in 100 people are Schizophrenic, not all have violence on their record but if they aren't in the right mind......
It’s mental health. It’s not a one size fits all thing even within the same illness, everything is on a spectrum.1 in 100 people are Schizophrenic, not all have violence on their record but if they aren't in the right mind......
It’s mental health. It’s not a one size fits all thing even within the same illness, everything is on a spectrum.
I have a friend who has bipolar. They’ve been committed 3 times, twice voluntary, once by force. They’re diagnosed, medicated and 99.9% of the time function normally. They’re raising a family, very well educated, have a full time job etc. but they have flare ups triggered usually by stress which means that the meds become less effective. The 2 times they voluntarily committed was on the depression side of the curve, the time they were forcibly committed was on the manic side of their curve. They stopped taking their medication and things very quickly escalate. They went missing for a period of time, started posting stuff online that was so batshit crazy you just couldn’t believe the posts were from the person you knew. They’re lucky in many respects. They have a good support network around them in terms of family and friends and in the mental healthcare lottery they happen to have a postcode where mental healthcare is fairly decent by today’s standards, IIRC Nottingham ranks pretty low in that lottery.
I have a friend who has bipolar. They’ve been committed 3 times, twice voluntary, once by force. They’re diagnosed, medicated and 99.9% of the time function normally. They’re raising a family, very well educated, have a full time job etc. but they have flare ups triggered usually by stress which means that the meds become less effective. The 2 times they voluntarily committed was on the depression side of the curve, the time they were forcibly committed was on the manic side of their curve. They stopped taking their medication and things very quickly escalate. They went missing for a period of time, started posting stuff online that was so batshit crazy you just couldn’t believe the posts were from the person you knew. They’re lucky in many respects. They have a good support network around them in terms of family and friends and in the mental healthcare lottery they happen to have a postcode where mental healthcare is fairly decent by today’s standards, IIRC Nottingham ranks pretty low in that lottery.
Yeah I don't really want to go into detail, but I do know for a cast-iron FACT that expecting somebody with paranoid schizophrenia to make a rational choice about their medication or treatment is asking too much on occasion. I also know for a cast iron FACT that support networks ain't what they used to be... and they've never been particularly great tbh.
No shifting of blame or excuses here, just pointed out a couple of FACTSIt seems people are more desperate to blame everybody else rather than the actual murderer.
Hopefully they can have him round for tea if he's released.
To coin a phrase that gets used a lot at the moment, this didn’t happen in a vacuum. The details are still coming out and the truth seems to be that both Nottingham police and now Leicester police missed opportunities to detain him and in the case of the Nottingham Police deliberately lied to the families about why that didn’t happen. He did what he did, no one is questioning that despite your rhetoric. Maligning and belittling mental health issues in the wider context including how it is or isn’t dealt with is frankly pathetic behaviour. I bet you even know someone who’s dealing with mental health issues.It seems people are more desperate to blame everybody else rather than the actual murderer.
Hopefully they can have him round for tea if he's released.
Im belittling a multiple murderer and little who are trying to play what he did down.To coin a phrase that gets used a lot at the moment, this didn’t happen in a vacuum. The details are still coming out and the truth seems to be that both Nottingham police and now Leicester police missed opportunities to detain him and in the case of the Nottingham Police deliberately lied to the families about why that didn’t happen. He did what he did, no one is questioning that despite your rhetoric. Maligning and belittling mental health issues in the wider context including how it is or isn’t dealt with is frankly pathetic behaviour. I bet you even know someone who’s dealing with mental health issues.
An under the skin like a contraceptive?How far does it go?
Does everybody need somebody to force meds down throats every day? At what points does he have to take responsibility?
Correct.Illogical Nick, if he was not of sound mind that extends to decisions to take medication or not