Gyokeres (6 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

The logic seems circular though. The championship is a money pit so owners need to fund to progress which makes the championship a money pit as other teams have wealthy owners.

By all means lobby for change. But it is what it is for now.

 

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[shmmeee]

Most owners aren’t putting their own money in though are they (outside of football). The business cuts its cloth accordingly then the owner might raise finance. The fact this is expected in football is partly why it’s such a mess financially.

Outside of football I’m not sure a situation like the Championship exists…

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Why no signings then do you think??

Da Silva?

Look at the rest of the Championship - it's not as everyone is leaving us behind in terms of numbers through the door. There's a multitude of reasons as to why we've not brought in more than 1.

Would I like 10 new signings today so they have more time to integrate and give MR time to judge his best 11? Sure.

Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world but history has told us that MR and his team know what they're doing (overall).

 

[djr8369]

By all means lobby for change. But it is what it is for now.

I’m alright but maybe lobby DK to put more money in?

 

[djr8369]

Da Silva?

Look at the rest of the Championship - it's not as everyone is leaving us behind in terms of numbers through the door. There's a multitude of reasons as to why we've not brought in more than 1.

Would I like 10 new signings today so they have more time to integrate and give MR time to judge his best 11? Sure.

Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world but history has told us that MR and his team know what they're doing (overall).

You seem calm how many beds you booking for these away games?

 

[duffer]

Doug doesn't stay in the same hotel as the team to be fair!

More of an "Ibis" type of chap, I'd imagine.

 

[djr8369]

Outside of football I’m not sure a situation like the Championship exists…

There’s plenty of businesses that lose money but yes not an entire industry that’s fucked.

 

[shmmeee]

There’s plenty of businesses that lose money but yes not an entire industry that’s fucked.

The closest is probably social media

 

[djr8369]

The closest is probably social media

Yeah not a bad shout.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Theres people genuinely believing we would get £15m or so of the Vik money to spend in the market.

 

[Tomh111]

Sorry this is nonsense

Anyone who buys a business really in any sector with growth ambitions will have a plan to provide funding to do so

In fact in kings initial comments were that the owners of Covcityco would provide that very funding

Supporter funds alone do not support football clubs

The club easily loses £90k every week. What you are suggesting is that if we. Any sake Gyokeres the club should reduce its staff and / or expect fans to cough up more while the owner contributes nothing

I think supporters have backed the club enough don’t you?

Even Sisu invested in hard cash around £20 million at the point of takeover

I'm not arguing he shouldn't invest, but the idea that transfer fees shouldn't be used to mitigate losses is frankly, nonsense.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Most owners aren’t putting their own money in though are they (outside of football). The business cuts its cloth accordingly then the owner might raise finance. The fact this is expected in football is partly why it’s such a mess financially.

Are you suggesting that debt driven investment is more sustainable than (wealthy) owner driven?

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[djr8369]

Are you suggesting that debt driven investment is more sustainable than (wealthy) owner driven?

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I’m not making a claim of what is more sustainable.

 

[robbiethemole]

107 pages to finally get to the point...............................there are NO 'ITK's' on this board.

FFS just lets get to the end of the window and see what MR has done??

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Sorry this is nonsense

Anyone who buys a business really in any sector with growth ambitions will have a plan to provide funding to do so

In fact in kings initial comments were that the owners of Covcityco would provide that very funding

Supporter funds alone do not support football clubs

The club easily loses £90k every week. What you are suggesting is that if we. Any sake Gyokeres the club should reduce its staff and / or expect fans to cough up more while the owner contributes nothing

I think supporters have backed the club enough don’t you?

Even Sisu invested in hard cash around £20 million at the point of takeover

The supporters would be backing the club even more if they could by buying merchandise if it was available, sometimes the club really doesn’t help itself

 

[Skyblueweeman]

You seem calm how many beds you booking for these away games?

One more than last season due to the increase in subs allowed.

 

[SBAndy]

I'm not arguing he shouldn't invest, but the idea that transfer fees shouldn't be used to mitigate losses is frankly, nonsense.

Always think it’s best to look at players as ‘stock’. Bring it in, add value (via training, match experience, etc), look to sell at a profit.

I’ve no major issue if Doug doesn’t want to invest huge sums but at the very least he should be bridging the funding gap created pre-Vik sale. That was ultimately the undoing of SISU.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

You're expecting an external party to indefinitely fund operating losses.

What happens if he runs out of money? What happens if he gets bored?

You sell the players you otherwise wouldn't have been able to buy, and revert to where we are now or, hopefully, better than we are now as we'll have been on the side of economic growth as a result of that inward investment.

 

[Tomh111]

The supporters would be backing the club even more if they could by buying merchandise if it was available, sometimes the club really doesn’t help itself

But if the club had signed a shirt sponsor at championship levels and then been promoted we would've been blasted as being amateur - Which I think we all know is the hold up with the kit?

 

[djr8369]

One more than last season due to the increase in subs allowed.

Premier Inn with the meal deal?

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Premier Inn with the meal deal?

You got it ;-)

To be fair, Premier Inn don't pay commission!

 

[mark82]

One more than last season due to the increase in subs allowed.

2 more subs allowed?

 

[Speedie's Head]

2 more subs allowed?

9 subs. Big advantage for the large squads

 

[Macca]

Is he still bloody here

 

[higgs]

Is he still bloody here

Who boddy?

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[Terry Gibson's perm]

But if the club had signed a shirt sponsor at championship levels and then been promoted we would've been blasted as being amateur - Which I think we all know is the hold up with the kit?

They can sell other items and be just looked at the kids section five items available.

 

[clint van damme]

Hmmm you've heard something haven't you?

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Yes

 

[shmmeee]

Yes

Is what you’ve heard a loan cos no way I believe were dropping £7m on a player

 

[djr8369]

Is what you’ve heard a loan cos no way I believe were dropping £7m on a player

Undisclosed?

 

[DrPoolittle]

Always think it’s best to look at players as ‘stock’. Bring it in, add value (via training, match experience, etc), look to sell at a profit.

I’ve no major issue if Doug doesn’t want to invest huge sums but at the very least he should be bridging the funding gap created pre-Vik sale. That was ultimately the undoing of SISU.

The undoing of SISU was their inability to communicate with the fans.

Ultimately, their model took us to within minutes of the EPL.

 

[Nobbie_67]

The undoing of SISU was their inability to communicate with the fans.

Ultimately, their model took us to within minutes of the EPL.

The only time I heard it referred to as EPL was when I lived in India. Happy memories!


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[no_loyalty]

Is what you’ve heard a loan cos no way I believe were dropping £7m on a player

I wouldn’t have thought it would be a loan if he’s signing imminently, he would have been part of Everton’s 25 man PL squad surely?

 

[Fysnkysc]

Apparently to be confirmed today.

 

[djr8369]

Apparently to be confirmed today.

Apparently?

 

[Fysnkysc]

Apparently?

Yes apparently .