Ben Stevenson - Colchester (1 Viewer)

[steve82]

Ben Stevenson has now left Walsall and joined Colchester United on a permanent deal.

12 months it lasted at wolves, big deals ain’t all they are cracked up to be for your careers unless your looking for a payday to secure your future




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[Nick]

Can't even see anything on the Wolves site to see if there was an undisclosed fee.

He's now a league below us but will have had a bit better money for a bit. He was never going to get close to their first team and rarely played for their reserves.

George Thomas will probably be next.

 

[Deity]

Agreed.

A lesson i hope Bayliss can learn from.

Maddison and Wilson are the other extreme of course .....

 

[Nick]

Agreed.

A lesson i hope Bayliss can learn from.

Maddison and Wilson are the other extreme of course .....

The thing with those 2 is that they didn't go too high.

Maddison went to Norwich and Wilson Bournemouth and then put some graft in for both of those clubs (and Aberdeen).

 

[Deity]

I think Norwich, Bournemouth and Wolves are all comparable ... it’s only Leicester that we’re an established Premier team at the time of the transfer.

 

[rob9872]

They were also clearly both more talented and miles ahead of the other two when they were here. I could be wrong, but I see the same in Bayliss as having that extra bit of quality. If he can keep grounded and keep improving I see no reason he cant make it to the very top. The way he glides past players effortlessly is a joy to watch and just needs to find that final killer pass a little more often.

 

[WillenhallSkyBlues]

League two team to league two team with a stint on loan in the Spanish third division. Bit of a strange move that was because he was never going to get into that wolves team

 

[Deity]

Interestingly Wilson wasn’t rated at the Club before his first team run. His loan move to Tamworth was lined up to be a permanent deal until Wilson got injured.

Fine margins .....

 

[fernandopartridge]

I like Stevenson as a player, shame he's not still here as he'd fit in with our current system imo.

 

[Nick]

I think Norwich, Bournemouth and Wolves are all comparable ... it’s only Leicester that we’re an established Premier team at the time of the transfer.

At the time Wolves were pretty much promoted and had players like Neves in central midfield. He was never ever going to get a look-in, the same as Thomas won't at Leicester.

 

[Joy Division]

I thought he looked good when he first broke into the team but faded quite quickly afterwards, remember he couldn't get in our team in league 2 which says a lot. Perhaps this is his level.

 

[oucho]

Interestingly Wilson wasn’t rated at the Club before his first team run. His loan move to Tamworth was lined up to be a permanent deal until Wilson got injured.

Fine margins .....

Until WHO got injured???

 

[chiefdave]

Would be interesting to go back over the last few years and players who have moved on to 'bigger' clubs and see how many have ended up better off in a footballing rather than financial sense.

 

[Warwickhunt]

well he certainly caught a cold this time!!!

 

[I_Saw_Shaw_Score]

What was the break down of his deal to Wolves? How much up front? Future clauses? Sell on etc?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

His career has really hit the buffers and hasn’t gone like a rocket

 

[rob9872]

His career has really hit the buffers and hasn’t gone like a rocket

I heard he always came in steaming and didn't train very well

 

[Winny the Bish]

I liked Stevenson but he always struggled on bad pitches and if games ever became a real battle - a lot like Harries.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I heard he always came in steaming and didn't train very well

He engineered his move to Wolves pretty well mind

 

[fernandopartridge]

I liked Stevenson but he always struggled on bad pitches and if games ever became a real battle - a lot like Harries.

I thought he put his foot in quite well, he anticipated things well as well. Lots of midfielders who are continually in 50/50s is because they're slow to react and intercept passes

 

[steve82]

16/17 season he showed he had a bright future here but in the 17/18 league two season it was clear the desire to be here and fight to get in the side had gone and slipped to 4th choice by December

How much did that Brentford talk in the January do damage to him with his mate Maddison previously earning his move and bid being accepted where as his 12 months later was rejected.

From the outside looking in and his form since he came back that summer for the next few months said he was very unsettled before Wolves took a punt. The cold was the icing on the cake.


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[ajsccfc]

It's a shame it's not quite worked out for him yet, even at the time Wolves seemed a puzzling move as they were clearly loading their squad ready for the Premier League so the chances of him playing for them never looked likely.

 

[Liquid Gold]

I hope his mum is in a right piss.

 

[covcity4life]

16/17 season he showed he had a bright future here but in the 17/18 league two season it was clear the desire to be here and fight to get in the side had gone and slipped to 4th choice by December

How much did that Brentford talk in the January do damage to him with his mate Maddison previously earning his move and bid being accepted where as his 12 months later was rejected.

From the outside looking in and his form since he came back that summer for the next few months said he was very unsettled before Wolves took a punt. The cold was the icing on the cake.


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slade didnt use him. dont think can blame stevenson. we got relegated because of slade and no one else

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Can't even see anything on the Wolves site to see if there was an undisclosed fee.

He's now a league below us but will have had a bit better money for a bit. He was never going to get close to their first team and rarely played for their reserves.

George Thomas will probably be next.

Bad career moves for Stevenson and Thomas. Thomas especially shouldn’t have tried to move to a premiership club so early, but, I understand why Stevenson wanted to move.

Even the monetary benefits of their moves won’t be worth it it if they end up leaving before their contract is up.

Young players wanting to develop should look to move to the Championship instead.

 

[steve82]

slade didnt use him. dont think can blame stevenson. we got relegated because of slade and no one else

What..... What the f*#k are you on about, you’ve missed your midday tablets.

Who’s blamed Stevenson for anything? Read my post again and compare the season dates to what I’ve said.


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[Liquid Gold]

Maddison and Wilson moved well because they were offered good chances of team football/loans that would challenge them. Thomas, Stevenson, Harries Bigi all moved to play under 23 football that doesn't develop you as a player.

 

[Nick]

Bad career moves for Stevenson and Thomas. Thomas especially shouldn’t have tried to move to a premiership club so early, but, I understand why Stevenson wanted to move.

Even the monetary benefits of their moves won’t be worth it it if they end up leaving before their contract is up.

Young players wanting to develop should look to move to the Championship instead.

Stevenson was never going to get a sniff anywhere near the Premier League for Wolves. I doubt he even would have if they failed to get promoted.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Stevenson was never going to get a sniff anywhere near the Premier League for Wolves. I doubt he even would have if they failed to get promoted.

I don’t think any of them would have, including Sambou — who was on the bench for Everton U23s against us in preseason. The same guy who left because he didn’t get first team football...

Players like those three need to screw their heads on properly and be a bit realistic.

It wouldn’t surprise if 2-3 of Harries, Stevenson, Thomas and Sambou dropped out of the football league altogether. For someone like Sambou, L2 looks like the ceiling at this rate.

Such a waste of talent, it’s a real shame.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Stevenson was never going to get a sniff anywhere near the Premier League for Wolves. I doubt he even would have if they failed to get promoted.

Obviously not as he's not even good enough for league one.

I don't delight in a home grown player's career not going to plan but there is a bit of schadenfreude after the way he left.

 

[Liquid Gold]

I don’t think any of them would have, including Sambou — who was on the bench for Everton U23s against us in preseason. The same guy who left because he didn’t get first team football...

Players like those three need to screw their heads on properly and be a bit realistic.

It wouldn’t surprise if 2-3 of Harries, Stevenson, Thomas and Sambou dropped out of the football league altogether. For someone like Sambou, L2 looks like the ceiling at this rate.

Such a waste of talent, it’s a real shame.

I'd forgotten about Sambou, he was told he'd feature in the first team for us that season too but chose Everton youth.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I'd forgotten about Sambou, he was told he'd feature in the first team for us that season too but chose Everton youth.

Fair enough, if he felt stifled by the lack of chances of first team football. But, players like that should be looking to join somewhere to get first team experience. Same as Thomas, a waste.

Look at Stevenson, 1 year he’s had his pay day for, and that money wouldn’t go very far for someone living that lifestyle. But, he wasn’t getting first team football with us anyway.

Maddison and Wilson (Stevenson for different reasons) aside, all the young players to have left us recently would’ve been better off staying with us. That is a lesson Bayliss should take away — he’s the main man in a L1 team, he’ll earn a good career move at this rate.

 

[Joy Division]

That proposed move to Brentford would have been a perfect career move for him instead of where he's ended up.

I have a feeling it was Sambou's agent that fucked him over on that move to Everton.

 

[Nick]

Sambou seemed to expect to be playing for the first team whilst in reality there were other players like George Thomas at the time way in front of him (even for the u23).

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

slade didnt use him. dont think can blame stevenson. we got relegated because of slade and no one else

Mowbray.