covmark

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Has pleaded guilty to grooming and having sex with underage girl.
Absolute cretin.

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CJ_covblaze

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He's going to have a brilliant time in the big house.
 

Joy Division

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What an absolute berk
 

Joy Division

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yes I said berk
 

Houchens Head

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No doubt Sunderland fans will blame us for what he's done! :D
 

Gazolba

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BBC says 'outside the UK'
I love the word 'grooming', it sounds like he combed someone's hair.
 

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I don't know what's more sickening the dutiful wife standing by him,or him for being a nonce ? A mate of mine got dumped by his missus a year ago when he lost his decent paid job,as she liked the lifestyle more than him it seemed.It shows some women will stick with you no matter what you do as long as you have loads of dosh !
 

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So by pleading guilty is he saying he knew she was under age, or is it he did stuff, and she was under age.
 

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She is probably protecting her investment by playing the dutiful wife until he gets banged up. Then the divorce lawyers will be in touch.

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So by pleading guilty is he saying he knew she was under age, or is it he did stuff, and she was under age.
The fact that he has admitted a charge of "grooming" would suggest he knew how old she was

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The moment he gets out city fans will demand we give him a chance
 

Nick

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The fact that he has admitted a charge of "grooming" would suggest he knew how old she was

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That's what I thought, but then if he was texting her for sex but didn't know her age, legally he is still guilty of grooming isn't he?
 

chiefdave

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That's what I thought, but then if he was texting her for sex but didn't know her age, legally he is still guilty of grooming isn't he?

Good question. If a girls says she's 18 and then she turns out to be 15 who is legally in the wrong?
 

chiefdave

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He still will be I think legally. IIRC he met her in a nightclub

Once did some work on shows with a band who shall not be named *cough* S Club 7 *cough*. Had a security chap checking IDs on the girls they let backstage.
 

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Or could be in pleading guilty he is hoping for a more lenient sentence.

hope the judge doesnt fall for that one
a couple years back a coventry pueado called phil clarke pleaded guilty at lase minute and the judge gave him 17 years !!!!
 

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It's not a falling for it though is it, I think just generally if you plead guilty you are treated more leniently than if you plead innocent and then are found guilty.

Not always of course, but it is plea bargaining. You admit it and you can get a lesser sentence, dependent obviously on what the charge is.
 

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Sacked by sunderland
 

Nick

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Oh dear, coming out in court it wasn't that he met her in a nightclub like first said when it happened.

She was a fan, he clearly knew she was in year 10 at school as he asked her.

He has pleaded guilty to kissing her and grooming.

Not guilty to the sex. (he has pleaded)
 

Otis

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Oh dear, coming out in court it wasn't that he met her in a nightclub like first said when it happened.

She was a fan, he clearly knew she was in year 10 at school as he asked her.

He has pleaded guilty to kissing her and grooming.

Not guilty to the sex. (he has pleaded)
Well yep, if he met her in a club and she lied about her age etc.etc.etc. then at least he would be able to offer some sort of defence, but if he knew all along then the case should all be wrapped up in 10 minutes.

Aren't there two charges he is pleading not guilty to? Anyone know what they are?
 

Nick

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I think they are having full sex with her he is saying not guilty.

When it first came out it was posted about a nightclub!
 

Otis

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Okay. But there isn't that much difference is there? Sexual contact with a minor or sexual intercourse with a minor.

By the letter of the law there may well be, but for me the 'minor' part is the key word and a sexual encounter is a sexual encounter isn't it!
 

Nick

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Okay. But there isn't that much difference is there? Sexual contact with a minor or sexual intercourse with a minor.

By the letter of the law there may well be, but for me the 'minor' part is the key word and a sexual encounter is a sexual encounter isn't it!

I think the intent is there reading what he was texting her...
 

wingy

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Bang to rights on the more recent news reports of today's court activity.
No grey area here.
 

chiefdave

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I know footballers aren't the brightest but in his position why would you even think about doing this. There's no way he wasn't going to get found out.

If he's that desperate to cheat on his Mrs with a younger girl at least go for one over age.

They've said in court that his internet history shows him researching the age of consent and she clearly told him her age. No way is he getting away with this.
 

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