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duffer

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As for why there's support for Hamas amongst Palestinians and potentially elsewhere, here's an interesting Jewish perspective on it, also from the JC.

In short, the author argues this doesn't end without some sort of commitment to a two-state solution from Israel.

 

clint van damme

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As for why there's support for Hamas amongst Palestinians and potentially elsewhere, here's an interesting Jewish perspective on it, also from the JC.

In short, the author argues this doesn't end without some sort of commitment to a two-state solution from Israel.


And unfortunately Netanyahu and his cronies have enabled Hamas to ensure a 2 state solution is unlikely.
 

duffer

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And unfortunately Netanyahu and his cronies have enabled Hamas to ensure a 2 state solution is unlikely.

Exactly that. We should never forget that Netanyahu supported Hamas for precisely that reason.

 

Grendel

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Facts. Don't make me laugh. You're either a complete troll or just incredibly dim. Pretty sad either way.

I think you're probably just desperately looking for attention, rather than believing the bullshit you're spouting, but just in case, here's a simple explanation of why you're wrong. Again.


The argument is pointless

The Uk communist party aligned closely to Stalin in the war years and beyond and Stalin himself was a brutal dictator in the Hitler mode.

Similar to the lefts icon Chairman Mao
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Who is it offensive to?
You've posted once in this thread and it's to complain about a profile picture, not a word about thousands of dead children, do you think you've got your priorities right?

You’re not stupid, you know full well who it’s offensive to. Thank you for seeing your error and removing the profile picture.

I’m not getting involved with this topic on a football forum. Don’t presume to know where I stand on this.

If you’ve ever studied the holocaust, you’d understand the pervasiveness of equating the only Jewish state to the Nazis together.

The word ‘nazi’ and ‘fascist’ gets branded about so cheaply people have lost the true meaning of the words.

On that note, I’m out of this thread.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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The poll itself is here: Polling — JLP

This is the company behind it: Senior Team — JLP
There’s some leading questions but pretty reasonable
Interesting other answers not included in the article as grendel pointed out
Not last 15% of the general population want homosexuality criminalised! I think that was the question and a similar number wanting abortion banned - again I think that was the question

Also the side with Hamas or Israel question isn’t good
The support Hamas is a very clear question
 

messiahrobins

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What would you do with Iran? Full invasion?
Tricky one that, as full invasions tend to become problematic, as much as i support Israel for instance and while they are dismantling Hamas it has taken too long and obviously come at a high price for civilians which means their intelligence of where hamas was cannot have been that accurate.
Economic sanctions are a waste of time. I would try to expose their links with Russia as Iran i believe is propped up by Russia and that financial link needs to stop to cripple the Iranian leaders.
Tony Blair and George Bush should be in prison as the worse mistake ever was getting rid of Saddam as he kept that region in check.
 

messiahrobins

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If it was binary it wouldn’t have been going on for decades. You really ain’t very clever. I’m on the side of the tens of thousands of innocent people who have been killed. Even in Israel it isn’t binary. Tens of thousands Israelis took to the streets again over the weekend demanding an end to hostilities, a negotiation for the return of the hostages, Netanyahu to resign and an immediate general election. Are you really suggesting that tens of thousands of Israeli Jews are on the side of “Nazis”?
You cannot be very bright if you think 10,000 represents a majority of public opinion.
I can tell you in Israel the public overwhelmingly support Netanyahu.
WE all agree about the tragic loss of innocent lives. Thats not on Israel. It is on Hamas. That is the key point
 

messiahrobins

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Facts. Don't make me laugh. You're either a complete troll or just incredibly dim. Pretty sad either way.

I think you're probably just desperately looking for attention, rather than believing the bullshit you're spouting, but just in case, here's a simple explanation of why you're wrong. Again.

That is a far left publication lmao. You really are gullible.
The Nazis were socialists, Andrew Neil did an in depth article about it years ago he referred to on This Week.
 

messiahrobins

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Entirely irrelevant bunch of waffle. You're flapping a bit now mate, so let's keep it simple. Just answer one question, it's not a hard one so there's no need to panic, love...

Does Braverman describe herself as specialising in Judicial Review. Yes or no?
No she did not. I have utterly embarrassed you which was not my intent, i just was seeking to educate you as to how lawyers operate.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Tricky one that, as full invasions tend to become problematic, as much as i support Israel for instance and while they are dismantling Hamas it has taken too long and obviously come at a high price for civilians which means their intelligence of where hamas was cannot have been that accurate.
Economic sanctions are a waste of time. I would try to expose their links with Russia as Iran i believe is propped up by Russia and that financial link needs to stop to cripple the Iranian leaders.
Tony Blair and George Bush should be in prison as the worse mistake ever was getting rid of Saddam as he kept that region in check.
Wasn’t Saddam an enemy of Israel for most of his time in office?
 

David O'Day

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That is a far left publication lmao. You really are gullible.
The Nazis were socialists, Andrew Neil did an in depth article about it years ago he referred to on This Week.
Amazing, the comedy of your wuming is top notch.

Calling the Encyclopædia Britannica "far left" and using "Andrew Neill" as a credible source.

Bravo, sir Barvo
 

skybluetony176

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You cannot be very bright if you think 10,000 represents a majority of public opinion.
I can tell you in Israel the public overwhelmingly support Netanyahu.
WE all agree about the tragic loss of innocent lives. Thats not on Israel. It is on Hamas. That is the key point
You can’t tell me that the public overwhelmingly support Netanyahu because it’s simply not true. Latest polling out of Isreal currently has 71% of the population thinks he should resign.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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That is a far left publication lmao. You really are gullible.
The Nazis were socialists, Andrew Neil did an in depth article about it years ago he referred to on This Week.
Well, if you want to go into it…the ‘northern’ Nazis early on, namely the Strasser brothers and Goebbels, did argue for more socialism in the party. They lost out to Hitler’s faction and from then on it was not socialist in the slightest.

Unless you seek to conflate being authoritarian with being left wing as shmmeee did a while back
 

David O'Day

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Well, if you want to go into it…the ‘northern’ Nazis early on, namely the Strasser brothers and Goebbels, did argue for more socialism in the party. They lost out to Hitler’s faction and from then on it was not socialist in the slightest.

Unless you seek to conflate being authoritarian with being left wing as shmmeee did a while back
Look at his post, look at what he calls a "far left" publication.

He's a WUM
 

Liquid Gold

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I genuinely had to google if that was Encyclopaedia Brittanica's site then because I couldn't believe someone was calling one of the most reputable sources in the entire world far left.
 

Ian1779

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That is a far left publication lmao. You really are gullible.
The Nazis were socialists, Andrew Neil did an in depth article about it years ago he referred to on This Week.
Eyes What GIF
 

shmmeee

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Well, if you want to go into it…the ‘northern’ Nazis early on, namely the Strasser brothers and Goebbels, did argue for more socialism in the party. They lost out to Hitler’s faction and from then on it was not socialist in the slightest.

Unless you seek to conflate being authoritarian with being left wing as shmmeee did a while back

Being left wing is being authoritarian. There ain’t no invisible hand of economic justice.
 

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