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Your own new political party (5 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Otis
  • Start date Jun 16, 2017
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hill83

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #176
Otis said:
And breathe!!!
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You breathe
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #177
hill83 said:
Nah. I'll try though.
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Unfortunately I suppose I equate my position as it was 20 years ago and equate it to today

And Ian's pinko commie behaviour is always a red rag to a bull.on such issues.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #178
hill83 said:
You really are a relentless arsehole.
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #179
Grendel said:
And Ian's pinko commie behaviour is always a red rag to a bull.on such issues.
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Which gives a nice balance to your 'keep the poor people where they belong' capitalist mantra.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #180
Liquid Gold said:
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Interesting - is Donald a friend of yours or was it just naturally symbolic?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #181
Ian1779 said:
Which gives a nice balance to your 'keep the poor people where they belong' capitalist mantra.
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Which is untrue as I genuinely believe such people would be far worse under a socialist flag
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #182
Grendel said:
Which is untrue as I genuinely believe such people would be far worse under a socialist flag
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I guess it is something we will never agree on then....
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #183
clint van damme said:
I believe it's quite substantial nowadays but for some the extra few hundred quid is vital.
We were lucky with the (grand) parental support we received, something I'll be eternally grateful for. Not everyone has that luxury.
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I guess it would depend on the volume and the sessions clint (ie. full time for pre-school, before and after school, retainer fee for holidays etc). When we had kids the wife wanted to be there for them, but money has always been tight for us, so she became a registered child minder and spent about 20 years doing that before it became too much for her. To be honest, it was a good move at the time and was the best of both worlds by being able to care for them herself and pull in the extra money to make sure we didn't go under and had a decent Christmas.
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #184
RegTheDonk said:
I guess it would depend on the volume and the sessions clint (ie. full time for pre-school, before and after school, retainer fee for holidays etc). When we had kids the wife wanted to be there for them, but money has always been tight for us, so she became a registered child minder and spent about 20 years doing that before it became too much for her. To be honest, it was a good move at the time and was the best of both worlds by being able to care for them herself and pull in the extra money to make sure we didn't go under and had a decent Christmas.
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Which is why it's sad that Surestart has gone and tax credits wound down.
Two helpful initiatives.
 
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Nick

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #185
Ian1779 said:
Hang on... isn't this the much celebrated independent school model? Pack kids off so someone else brings them up?

At least with childcare you pick them up at the end of each day... not the end of 6 weeks.
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Isn't that boarding school?
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #186
Nick said:
Isn't that boarding school?
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Yes - but a lot of these schools offer full boarding... my point was that surely putting a child in a boarding school is no different to putting them in full time childcare.
 

Nick

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #187
Ian1779 said:
Yes - but a lot of these schools offer full boarding... my point was that surely putting a child in a boarding school is no different to putting them in full time childcare.
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I don't personally agree with boarding school either. That's even worse. I could have do that no matter how much money I had.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #188
Full-time childcare has become a part of the world we live in. And most of the time it is used for neccesity.. not beacuse a parent wants to 'dump' their child in there. The cost of it often exceeds that of a mortgage - so if you are a single parent you are faced with the choice of working and having virtually no money as it all goes on childcare and household bills - either that or not work and live on the state. Imagine that being your two main options....
 

Nick

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #189
Ian1779 said:
Full-time childcare has become a part of the world we live in. And most of the time it is used for neccesity.. not beacuse a parent wants to 'dump' their child in there. The cost of it often exceeds that of a mortgage - so if you are a single parent you are faced with the choice of working and having virtually no money as it all goes on childcare and household bills - either that or not work and live on the state. Imagine that being your two main options....
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I agree, when I said about that it was if it was free to everybody from ages 1 to 7 and not people who really need it.

I know single parents, there's currently no incentive for them to work. They are better off being at home. That's wrong.

Of course people need to work, the shipping them is probably more related to boarding school or the other end where people can't be arsed.

We both have to work and use after school clubs. Lots of people will need to, my comments are more in reply to shmeee and the letting others bring them up to be better and less crime etc.
 
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