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Your beloved SISU: Why? (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Mar 17, 2013
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SydneySkyBlue

Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #1
I've tried to keep a distance from the tedious melodrama that follows every council and club statement in recent times.

However, I am in disbelief at the length some on here will go to defend a company that has done such a shoddy job of running their club.

For the past 5 years they have made it more than obvious to you that your club is merely a hindrance to them in their desire to acquire the stadium it occupies.

The comical shenanigans we witnessed during that time - from directors sitting on the bench to suggestions that our mascot should lose weight - all stank of owners that didn't have a clue about football and had long since given up on that side of things.

They have simply hung around like a bad smell in the hope they can acquire the stadium on the cheap from a fallen ACL.

Now, with the council having lended its financial support and prevented a foreign entity from stealing a local source of pride, you are witnessing the sinister truth:

The company that own your club are willing to threaten its very existence in an attempt to secure what it really wants.

Why, then, do I still see people on here defending their actions? Have we gotten so used to them and so wrapped up in it all that we are missing the obvious ploy here? This is the equivalent of somebody holding a gun to your loved one's head in a last ditch attempt to acquire their house (or some better analogy that I couldn't be bothered to think up).

I'm just as tired as everyone else of this public spat and our club being dragged through the dirt with it but I'll make no secret that I fully support our local authorities in their actions on this one. They can blab on all they want about how unreasonable they believe the proposed rental agreement offer to be but SISU have shown nothing to warrant any kind of trust or support for their case from myself; would those that fall on the opposite side please enlighten me?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #2
I think on my side its not so much as like sisu but more an equal distrust and dislike of the local authority. In the same way as we might not like a player or a manager, whilst they are ours we should support them. If I knew of a credibke alternative they would have my 100% backing instead, but unfortunately I don't. I guess the stadium issue prevented other interested parties five years back and with league status dwindling crowds and no stadium resolution we offer even less appeal now than e did then.
 

SydneySkyBlue

Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #3
The truth is we probably won't know of any interested parties unless the club goes into administration. Nobody offers to buy your house when there isn't a For Sale sign outside it.
 
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Bluegloucester

New Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #4
I think there has always been a for sale sign, the asking price has been the sticking point.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #5
Very true and I hope you're right. I wuld love nothing more than to eat a large portion of humble pie abd say I was wrong, but until proved otherwise I just can't see it,
 
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dadgad

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #6
rob9872 said:
I think on my side its not so much as like sisu but more an equal distrust and dislike of the local authority. .
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If the local authority hadn't come to the rescue would we have a stadium at all?
Further more, when whoever owns the club buggers off the council (who are democratically elected to serve Coventry) will still be here to pick up the pieces of a club which, as GINETTA points out, has been run into the ground by clowns.
If you think therefore that your "equal distrust" is a balanced view then I'd love to hear from you how the Council could have done anything differently.:wave:
 

rob9872

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  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #7
Yes we would have a stadium-highfield road! We would have entered admin then but the council bought the ground and have been paid more in rent since than any outlay. They wanted that part of the city regenerated regardless and were inky too happy to get involved in rescuing the arena project.
 

Delboycov

Active Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #8
I can't believe that there's still anyone that can defend SISU....they will liquidate us in a hearbeat. They've already said this. As far as I'm concerned anyone supporting SISU is supporting the liquidation of our club.
 
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dadgad

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #9
rob9872 said:
Yes we would have a stadium-highfield road! We would have entered admin then but the council bought the ground and have been paid more in rent since than any outlay. They wanted that part of the city regenerated regardless and were inky too happy to get involved in rescuing the arena project.
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If you think it was the Council's decision to sell HR then I cannot help you.
Indeed, you're probably beyond helping.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #10
If that was truly their aim then they have had ample opportunity over the past 5/6 years to have done just that. Ask yourself why they haven't? It was an empty veiled threat to affirm their position which backfired as acl saw this a convenient excuse to file for admin and protect their extortionate rental level. Without ccfc acl are pointless and worthless.A final throw of the dice in desparation that will ultimately di acl, sisu and more importantly ccfc, no favours at all.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #11
dadgad said:
If the local authority hadn't come to the rescue would we have a stadium at all?
Further more, when whoever owns the club buggers off the council (who are democratically elected to serve Coventry) will still be here to pick up the pieces of a club which, as GINETTA points out, has been run into the ground by clowns.
If you think therefore that your "equal distrust" is a balanced view then I'd love to hear from you how the Council could have done anything differently.:wave:
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So the local authority came to the rescue otherwise we would not have a stadium...that could be true. That makes them the good guys in all of this???
SISU came in to buy the club at the death...otherwise there would be no club...I think that is at least as true. BUT so many portray them as the bad guys - mostly it seems through tactics employed to get the stadium so they can increase revenue so they can invest more on the pitch (I admit that is my assumption) & stick to the FFP rules coming in.
There are no good guys other than the supporters - they are the only ones who do or say anything for the love of the club. All other interested parties do it for financial gain or to massage their massive ego.
I guess that a great many will now accuse me of being a "SISU-lover" but I really am beyond caring about that childish nonsense...so if anyone is tempted to...it's pointless bothering.
 
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dadgad

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #12
What you on about? Relax, your ire is not doing you any good. You've lost the ability to think straight. Chill.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #13
dadgad said:
If you think it was the Council's decision to sell HR then I cannot help you.
Indeed, you're probably beyond helping.
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Wtf dud I say that? We all know it was ruchardsins but ine that ccc were only too willing to exploit. When the arena project started it was a national stadium bid on an old gasworks that required a lot of publuc expenditure to maje safe. Then a 45000 with retractablpe roof all before the stadium we now ended up with. There was littery funding from the failed wc2006 bid and the sale if land to tesco all swallowed up by mounting debts trying to pay players unsustainable wages.
 

Delboycov

Active Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #14
Empty veiled threats? If that's what it was then it's backfired spectacularly and they're gambling with the very existence of our club for small change in the scheme of things and it could ultimately see us disappear completely....how can you condone that? You normally talk a lot of sense on here and are one of the better posters. What's happened tonight?
 
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dadgad

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #15
Yo Rob, what you drinking?
Me, I'm having a drop of Barbaresco.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #16
I far from condone it (and btw thanks ) its a gamble and probably a mistake but the alternatives too have limited appeal for me.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #17
Just a glass or two of some cheap red plonk but feel ok ( if a little tired) think its bye byes soon.
 

Delboycov

Active Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #18
No problem mate Fair enough but what about the real prospect of liquidation which is what SISU have told us is an inevitabilty.....veiled threats or not that's a shite alternative! Personally I think the rent issues are a smokescreen as it represents small change in the overall picture. Just imagine if they oblterate us off the face of the earth over an amount comparable to David Bell's wages.....would you be as sympathetic to them then?
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #19
Nobody 'loves' sisu ffs
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #20
Delboycov said:
No problem mate Fair enough but what about the real prospect of liquidation which is what SISU have told us is an inevitabilty.....veiled threats or not that's a shite alternative! Personally I think the rent issues are a smokescreen as it represents small change in the overall picture. Just imagine if they oblterate us off the face of the earth over an amount comparable to David Bell's wages.....would you be as sympathetic to them then?
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Certainly not but I genuinely never believed it would come to that. I guess we will never know now however.
 

Delboycov

Active Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #21
hill83 said:
Nobody 'loves' sisu ffs
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I think Godiva does in fairness Hill
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #22
My turn to get up early with the little un do I guess I should get some zzzzz now. Gn all- its been emotional
 

Delboycov

Active Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #23
rob9872 said:
Certainly not but I genuinely never believed it would come to that. I guess we will never know now however.
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Thing is we all want the same thing and that's a solvent and hopefully successful CCFC and the anti ACL..anti SISU.....anti CCC views has seen us more divided as a support than at any time probably in our history. Such a shame that at a time when we need a galvanised fanbase more than at any other time it's come down to what 'side' we're on......still think you're a good poster though mate
 

Delboycov

Active Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #24
SkyblueBazza said:
So the local authority came to the rescue otherwise we would not have a stadium...that could be true. That makes them the good guys in all of this???
SISU came in to buy the club at the death...otherwise there would be no club...I think that is at least as true. BUT so many portray them as the bad guys - mostly it seems through tactics employed to get the stadium so they can increase revenue so they can invest more on the pitch (I admit that is my assumption) & stick to the FFP rules coming in.
There are no good guys other than the supporters - they are the only ones who do or say anything for the love of the club. All other interested parties do it for financial gain or to massage their massive ego.
I guess that a great many will now accuse me of being a "SISU-lover" but I really am beyond caring about that childish nonsense...so if anyone is tempted to...it's pointless bothering.
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SISU lover!
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #25
rob9872 said:
I think on my side its not so much as like sisu but more an equal distrust and dislike of the local authority. In the same way as we might not like a player or a manager, whilst they are ours we should support them. If I knew of a credibke alternative they would have my 100% backing instead, but unfortunately I don't. I guess the stadium issue prevented other interested parties five years back and with league status dwindling crowds and no stadium resolution we offer even less appeal now than e did then.
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The love drug is wearing off.
 
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ryb1983ccfc

New Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #26
<p>Sisu out!</p>
 
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rupert_bear

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #27
I will never understand the anti Council/ACL bile on this website. Had the local authority not got involved the probability is Coventry City F.C would be history now and remember decisions taken at the council involving CCFC/SISU have been all party unanimous decisions and not party political and even the 30 minute debate last week in the House had all party support. I believe there's a lot to come out yet we as laymen fans know nothing about. Don't get me wrong i could fall out with politicians local or national anytime but on this Ricoh/SISU topic i am grateful they are there. For the record i don't believe the cost of renting the ground is the real reason or as damaging as we are told AND acl have come down to 400k a year a massive drop and that's still not acceptable and as for matchday cash avenue streams in all honesty and reallity thats a pittance. As i said when the full story comes out we maybe more grateful to our council than we think. That footie expert the other day spelt out the frightening facts if the football club is liquidated we start again in the Evostic Northern league !!
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #28
In my view SISU planned to stress ACL. The council thwarted that. SISU saw the vulnerability of ACL and their mortgage commitments and decided to stop paying rent on the strength of it. That is why we are here now.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #29
dadgad said:
What you on about? Relax, your ire is not doing you any good. You've lost the ability to think straight. Chill.
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Amusing from someone never possessing that ability.

Interesting I see you and rich87 engaging in a little bit if banter. Of course the last time I recall I knew nothing and you and he were the superiors in debate was on the thorn discussion. Says it all really.

Go yesterday? Know the score and who scored by now.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #30
hill83 said:
Nobody 'loves' sisu ffs
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Nobody loved Sisu more than Ginetta that's for sure.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #31
lordsummerisle said:
Nobody loved Sisu more than Ginetta that's for sure.
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Yes the irony was not lost on me either. That fool dadgad clearly knows little of ginnetta's ranson worshipping history.
 
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rupert_bear

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #32
Grendel said:
Amusing from someone never possessing that ability.



Go yesterday? Know the score and who scored by now.
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What difference does that make ? There are long time posters on here from America, Oz, Spain etc, does their not going to matches limit their right to opinion ? I know a regular poster on here unable to attend matches through illness. How do we know you go ?
 

gaziola

New Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #33
Sisu have gotta go, and i think they will. Just depends on how much 'more' damage they do if they're forced out. There is no way they can expect to recoup any of their investment either. They've made too many mistakes.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #34
rupert_bear said:
What difference does that make ? There are long time posters on here from America, Oz, Spain etc, does their not going to matches limit their right to opinion ? I know a regular poster on here unable to attend matches through illness. How do we know you go ?
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To be fair, we know he went yesterday as he saw the blatant foul by Cody!
 
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rupert_bear

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2013
  • #35
So did my mate in a B&B in Blackpool !!
 
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