Blind-Faith
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I’ll accept your point that he has no one to make him go. Just trying to make a general point I suppose, same rules should apply to everyone if you wanted to be treated the same that’s all.
Doesn’t matter if he has a job or not, whether he is employed or not, if someone is being made to go on an educational course because of something he said years ago about a certain race or person, then if that person has also made derogatory comments about a certain race they should also be made to go on a course.
If everyone’s wants to be treated fairly and the same way then everyone needs to play by the same rules
Well I'm looking for sone temporary admin help but he'll have to fkn behave himself!Will he have to go on a course to get a job, so that his new employer can send him on the other course?
Well I'm looking for sone temporary admin help but he'll have to fkn behave himself!
You are forever telling everybody what someone has said. We can all read.Nobody is defending anything as far as I can see.
The only thing is Boosh, I mean Warthog, I mean Silenced Sloth seems to be insinuating that it doesn't matter that YCCC is institutionally racist or that Rafiq was abused because Rafiq made some anti semitic comments.
When he made the allegations against YCCC he must have known this would have come out.Wrong! Just makes Rafiq look a bit of a silly bunt too
They investigated it and found no wrong doing, just banter in their words. Hence it blowing up.When he made the allegations against YCCC he must have known this would have come out.
He's apologised and so I'd assume that's that. Had any of the people he's making the allegations against admitted it and said sorry would that have been the end of the matter?
I doubt it.
When he made the allegations against YCCC he must have known this would have come out.
He's apologised and so I'd assume that's that. Had any of the people he's making the allegations against admitted it and said sorry would that have been the end of the matter?
I doubt it.
Some comments he'd forgotten about . He " feels very angry with himself" for the comments he made .You're missing the point. It's not a competition, it's not about comparing one against the other.
The story is about longstanding institutional racism at Yorkshire CCC and in English cricket as a whole.
Some awful anti semitic comments by Rafiq doesn't change that.
Wouldn’t have harmed the situationWhen he made the allegations against YCCC he must have known this would have come out.
He's apologised and so I'd assume that's that. Had any of the people he's making the allegations against admitted it and said sorry would that have been the end of the matter?
I doubt it.
All of it is a mess, doesn't look good on Rafiq
I don't agree with people going back to posts from 10 years ago (sad individuals), however if all of this racism happened 10 years ago why wasn't anything said at the time? Was it brushed under the carpet, was people scared to come forward and say anything?
Whilst not racism, Stanley Johnson was accused of sexual assault back in 2003 yet the story only broke last week. Why wait so long?
If I said things like what has been said in the workplace I would be diciplined, potentially sacked
Mistakes were made, learn from them
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He'll still play.His texts weren't racism related. Sexual harassment.
Bad news for England though because he's Australia's worst player.
No he won't, he's a wicket-keeper in the traditional mould and isn't necessarily in the team to score hatfuls of runs. We are very lucky to have Jonny Bairstow who can do both.
Apparently there is a Twitter account listing people who have scored as many Test centuries as Tim Paine. It includes Blockbuster's Bob Holness, and could include me as well. (it's zero, by the way)
#metooFk me I've just liked a PVA post, I feel dirty now
I haven't seen or heard anything to state that he was guilty of "sexual harassment", so be careful how you choose your words. In his statement, it was found in separate investigations by Cricket Australia and Cricket Tasmania that there was no indication of misconduct and no further action was required. That being the case, i'm very surprised it's a resigning matter.His texts weren't racism related. Sexual harassment.
Bad news for England though because he's Australia's worst player.
Yeah, I guess there's more spotlight on the investigation after Yorkshire's conclusion of 'banter'. Let's hope Cricket Australia aren't as flippant! If a proper investigation at the time, that should have been the end of it, really.I haven't seen or heard anything to state that he was guilty of "sexual harassment", so be careful how you choose your words. In his statement, it was found in separate investigations by Cricket Australia and Cricket Tasmania that there was no indication of misconduct and no further action was required. That being the case, i'm very surprised it's a resigning matter.
I haven't seen the messages he apparently sent to the female colleague, but it may have been a two-way consensual conversation, or surely he would have been found guilty of sexual misconduct, no? In which case, it should have been a private matter (including the "conversation" with Mrs Paine!!!) and everyone should move on (especially the nosey c*nts who want to publish the texts four years on)
If they fucked up their investigations, they are in the same boat as Yorkshire CCC and their dismissal of "banter".Yeah, I guess there's more spotlight on the investigation after Yorkshire's conclusion of 'banter'. Let's hope Cricket Australia aren't as flippant! If a proper investigation at the time, that should have been the end of it, really.
Yeah, worth pulling this back really, that although the racism is (obviously!) bad, it's Yorkshire's investigation and conclusion that's been the main issue - astonishing that they ended up in effect condoning it. Had they actually come up with a half-decent conclusion to their report, and programme off the back of it to help eradicate it, this would have passed by relatively quickly.If they fucked up their investigations, they are in the same boat as Yorkshire CCC and their dismissal of "banter".
Yeah, worth pulling this back really, that although the racism is (obviously!) bad, it's Yorkshire's investigation and conclusion that's been the main issue - astonishing that they ended up in effect condoning it. Had they actually come up with a half-decent conclusion to their report, and programme off the back of it to help eradicate it, this would have passed by relatively quickly.
Not really sure why the Tim Paine thing needs his resignation unless there's details that aren't in the press.I haven't seen or heard anything to state that he was guilty of "sexual harassment", so be careful how you choose your words. In his statement, it was found in separate investigations by Cricket Australia and Cricket Tasmania that there was no indication of misconduct and no further action was required. That being the case, i'm very surprised it's a resigning matter.
I haven't seen the messages he apparently sent to the female colleague, but it may have been a two-way consensual conversation, or surely he would have been found guilty of sexual misconduct, no? In which case, it should have been a private matter (including the "conversation" with Mrs Paine!!!) and everyone should move on (especially the nosey c*nts who want to publish the texts four years on)
These ECB board members, tsk, tsk!!!Wow.
This is perfectly normal. Definitely don't have to worry about racism in this country like some in here keep telling me.
These ECB board members, tsk, tsk!!!
But i am quite shocked (probably quite naively) to find that there are people in this country who hold those beliefs and values.
That’s awful. Did Rafiq write that?
She’s a dreadful pundit. Once did a 5 minute piece on how if you hit the ball harder it goes further.
Your hysterical accusations if nothing else are at least consistent.Wow.
This is perfectly normal. Definitely don't have to worry about racism in this country like some in here keep telling me.
Your hysterical accusations if nothing else are at least consistent.
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