Yes we may need another Striker but.. (1 Viewer)

Fergusons_Beard · Jan 19, 2020

maybe we need to appreciate just how difficult it is to score a goal-at any level.

This article breaks down the stats behind goal scoring opportunities https://statsbomb.com/2016/10/xcommentary/ definitely worth a read.

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Sky Blue Pete · Jan 19, 2020

Fergusons_Beard said:
maybe we need to appreciate just how difficult it is to score a goal-at any level.

This article breaks down the stats behind goal scoring opportunities https://statsbomb.com/2016/10/xcommentary/ definitely worth a read.

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That’s great

stupot07 · Jan 19, 2020

Fergusons_Beard said:
maybe we need to appreciate just how difficult it is to score a goal-at any level.

This article breaks down the stats behind goal scoring opportunities https://statsbomb.com/2016/10/xcommentary/ definitely worth a read.

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Interesting that. Especially when you look at our stats on Whoscored.com we're the lowest in the league for goals scored in the 6 yard box.

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Sky Blue Pete · Jan 19, 2020

stupot07 said:
Interesting that. Especially when you look at our stats on Whoscored.com we're the lowest in the league for goals scored in the 6 yard box.

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Very rarely score tap ins or headers in the box

ccfcway · Jan 19, 2020

stupot07 said:
Interesting that. Especially when you look at our stats on Whoscored.com we're the lowest in the league for goals scored in the 6 yard box.

that will be robins coaching players out of how to score

Fergusons_Beard · Jan 19, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
Very rarely score tap ins or headers in the box

Also that Matt Godden with 0.64 goals per 90 has leading stat in Division One.

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Sky Blue Pete · Jan 20, 2020

Wh

Fergusons_Beard said:
Also that Matt Godden with 0.64 goals per 90 has leading stat in Division One.

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whats that on?

itsabuzzard · Jan 20, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
Wh

whats that on?

Some sort of hallucinatory substance.

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Gibbo · Jan 20, 2020

stupot07 said:
Interesting that. Especially when you look at our stats on Whoscored.com we're the lowest in the league for goals scored in the 6 yard box.

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This has been my bug bear for quite a time.
We have not been scoring enough goals (see the goal diff compared to others), but the goals we do score are often very good goals - Shipley's on Saturday being yet another as would have been O'Hare's if it had gone in. If you see the match highlights for all games a good proportion of goals in League 1 and League 2 are plainly "scruffy" - coming from poor defensive work in the penalty area.
We have not been good enough at scoring our share of these scruffy goals. Bakayoko's late equalizer almost qualifies, but I can't remember many. So much as I love a raking cross field pass leading to a clean strike from the edge of the box.....I'd settle for a few more scuffy scrambles in the box if it got our goal tally up. It is something we are missing.

covboy1987 · Jan 20, 2020

Gibbo said:
This has been my bug bear for quite a time.
We have not been scoring enough goals (see the goal diff compared to others), but the goals we do score are often very good goals - Shipley's on Saturday being yet another as would have been O'Hare's if it had gone in. If you see the match highlights for all games a good proportion of goals in League 1 and League 2 are plainly "scruffy" - coming from poor defensive work in the penalty area.
We have not been good enough at scoring our share of these scruffy goals. Bakayoko's late equalizer almost qualifies, but I can't remember many. So much as I love a raking cross field pass leading to a clean strike from the edge of the box.....I'd settle for a few more scuffy scrambles in the box if it got our goal tally up. It is something we are missing.

15 goals in the last 6 games shows we are turning the corner on scoring goals - We have to deal with here and now and recent form -

shmmeee · Jan 20, 2020

I swear we’ll win the league and someone on here will be moaning that we converted the least amount of left footed backheels from outside the area in the second half of Tuesday night games.

It’s mid January and we have it in our power to win the league. We’re doing OK.

SBAndy · Jan 20, 2020

When was the last time we had double-digit goal difference?

Evo1883 · Jan 20, 2020

I do wish sometimes, and I rarely moan about how we play... That we would get the ball in and around the 6 yard box more to give our strikers a better chance of scoring more... However what we are currently doing is working... Just in a less traditional way

Speedies_Chips · Jan 20, 2020

Gibbo said:
This has been my bug bear for quite a time.
We have not been scoring enough goals (see the goal diff compared to others), but the goals we do score are often very good goals - Shipley's on Saturday being yet another as would have been O'Hare's if it had gone in. If you see the match highlights for all games a good proportion of goals in League 1 and League 2 are plainly "scruffy" - coming from poor defensive work in the penalty area.
We have not been good enough at scoring our share of these scruffy goals. Bakayoko's late equalizer almost qualifies, but I can't remember many. So much as I love a raking cross field pass leading to a clean strike from the edge of the box.....I'd settle for a few more scuffy scrambles in the box if it got our goal tally up. It is something we are missing.

I think the reason we don’t score scruffy goals is that generally we don’t get many people in the box so there’s no one in a position to score off their arse from 2 yards.

SlowerThanPlatt · Jan 20, 2020

SBAndy said:
When was the last time we had double-digit goal difference?

2015/16 +18

2017/18 +17

robbiekeane · Jan 20, 2020

shmmeee said:
I swear we’ll win the league and someone on here will be moaning that we converted the least amount of left footed backheels from outside the area in the second half of Tuesday night games.

It’s mid January and we have it in our power to win the league. We’re doing OK.

It’s the lack of in the first half that pisses me off

Gibbo · Jan 20, 2020

covboy1987 said:
15 goals in the last 6 games shows we are turning the corner on scoring goals - We have to deal with here and now and recent form -

complacent

Johhny Blue · Jan 21, 2020

It’s interesting to evaluate specific chances.
The odds of Dele Alli’s shot going in to the keepers left as opposed to the gaping net on his right were low. Does that make it a great goal? If the defender had blocked it would he have been stupid not to go the other way?
The first time I saw Shipley play was at Oxford last year and he scored a goal where I thought he chose the wrong option. (I thought the same about his goal at Doncaster). I saw him in the next game at home to Barnsley and thought he would never make it as a league one player.
I’m glad to be proven wrong.

Gazolba · Jan 21, 2020

One of the differences between a good striker and an average striker is that when a good striker shoots, he follows the ball in so if there is a rebound or parry, he can still score.
That's why in the Premier League when a GK stops a shot, he has to parry it well to the left or right, because if he just parries it out forwards it's almsot sure to be fired in by someone following up.

SlowerThanPlatt · Jan 21, 2020

Gazolba said:
One of the differences between a good striker and an average striker is that when a good striker shoots, he follows the ball in so if there is a rebound or parry, he can still score.
That's why in the Premier League when a GK stops a shot, he has to parry it well to the left or right, because if he just parries it out forwards it's almsot sure to be fired in by someone following up.

Is there any statistical evidence behind this? Following the ball in from a shot is one of the basics taught at junior level. Also a goalkeeper to parry the ball away from opposition players and away from goal. I’m not sure it’s exclusive to Premier League players or good ones as you say, you would find these happening at Sunday league

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