XG underperformers (2 Viewers)

[Ccfcisparks]

Just seen an interesting stat on twitter.

Someone has accumulated all individual player data available for xG underperformance from 17/18 until now. Essentially the worst finishers in the world, where there is xG data available.

Two of our former players, who’ve had spells with us since 17/18 appear in the bottom 50 finishers on the list. Can you guess who they are?

 

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[peteCCFC]

Waghorn.
Thomas Asante.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Waghorn.
Thomas Asante.

No and no

 

[Sick Boy]

Biamou.

 

[Jamesimus]

Just seen an interesting stat on twitter.

Someone has accumulated all individual player data available for xG underperformance from 17/18 until now. Essentially the worst finishers in the world, where there is xG data available.

Two of our former players, who’ve had spells with us since 17/18 appear in the bottom 50 finishers on the list. Can you guess who they are?

Hiwula and Bakayoko?

Luke Thomas as an outside guess

 

[Ccfcisparks]

No to all 4 of those.

 

[SkyBlueBarmy84]

O’Hare

 

[Jamesimus]

Tyler Walker?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

O’Hare

That’s one.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Tyler Walker?

Nope

 

[Jamesimus]

Okay last guesses for me.

Gyokeres and Godden

 

[napolimp]

Clarke-Harris and O'hare?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Nope to all those

COH is one.

the other wasn’t with us long.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Just seen an interesting stat on twitter.

Someone has accumulated all individual player data available for xG underperformance from 17/18 until now. Essentially the worst finishers in the world, where there is xG data available.

Two of our former players, who’ve had spells with us since 17/18 appear in the bottom 50 finishers on the list. Can you guess who they are?

Gyokeres probably one of them and the other Godden?

 

[fernandopartridge]

?

Nope to all those

COH is one.

the other wasn’t with us long.

Chaplin?

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Nope to all those

COH is one.

the other wasn’t with us long.

Chaplin?

 

[napolimp]

Not going to bother guessing because I just looked it up. I'm surprised he even managed enough shots at goal to have a poor xg.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Chaplin?

Snap!

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Not Chaplin.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

This xG isn’t exclusive to just his spell with us, but all clubs he’s played for from 17/18 till now.

 

[Jamesimus]

This xG isn’t exclusive to just his spell with us, but all clubs he’s played for from 17/18 till now.

Sean Maguire?

 

[napolimp]

Sean Maguire?

There's always one who looks it up to make themselves look smart.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Sean Maguire?

You got it!

 

[Ccfcisparks]

There’s the bottom 50. COH statistically the 32nd worst finisher is most major leagues in that period. He’s scored 11 less than expected!

 

[covcity4life]

O hare and Sean Maguire

Covcity4life is always right!!!

 

[TomRad85]

Maguire happy just to get a mention I reckon.
Always thought Bamford was an absolutely atrocious footballer. How he's played at the level he has, I have no idea.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

COH scored 4 less than expected in our first champ season and 7 less than expected in the second. To be fair last season he did score 2 more than expected so does give credence to his finishing having improved when he came back from injury.

interesting reading.

in his only Championship season Biamou scored 3.3 goals less than expected @Sick Boy

 

[SBAndy]

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There’s the bottom 50. COH statistically the 32nd worst finisher is most major leagues in that period. He’s scored 11 less than expected!

Any way to filter it to ‘per 90 mins’?

 

[skybluecam]

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There’s the bottom 50. COH statistically the 32nd worst finisher is most major leagues in that period. He’s scored 11 less than expected!

McGoldrick is also on there.

Also statistically flawed, this punishes poor finishers who are great at getting chances. % of xg converted would probably be a better stat.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Any way to filter it to ‘per 90 mins’?

The table has a 90s column so presumably divide the G-xG figure by the figure in that column.

 

[fernandopartridge]

McGoldrick is also on there.

Also statistically flawed, this punishes poor finishers who are great at getting chances. % of xg converted would probably be a better stat.

It's not statistically flawed, it's telling you who poor finishers are not penalising players for being poor finishers

 

[SBAndy]

The table has a 90s column so presumably divide the G-xG figure by the figure in that column.

Yeah but I’m not doing that for 50 players.

 

[skybluecam]

It's not statistically flawed, it's telling you who poor finishers are not penalising players for being poor finishers

It is.

Who’s the better finisher? A player who had 100 xg and scored 90 or a player who had 10 xg and scored 1? It’s obviously the first one, but since this stat is a simple subtraction it will rank the first guy “worse”.

 

[Cov98]

Is there a bigger list available? Would be very interesting to see.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

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There’s the bottom 50. COH statistically the 32nd worst finisher is most major leagues in that period. He’s scored 11 less than expected!

Out of the time frame, but there’s McG too!