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Would you support a move to not renew season tickets next year (1 Viewer)

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #211
Sky Blue Kid said:
Or do a Cardiff and tell SISU "Invest in the playing staff properly or we don't renew ST's".
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You don't fully get the new rules then?

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #212
Wheelfass said:
Can't agree with you Bazza.
As fans we can't be strung along another season after this one. We have no other way of effecting the owners other than by our failure to purchase season tickets or by not attending home games.
Dont you get the feeling that Sisu may just finish us off as a going concern anyway. How much longer do you want to endure this slow and lingering demise? I understand that other fans will feel that by not purchasing a ST or attending home games that it could be detrimental to the quality of the squad but look at what we've got now - are you happy with what we have been able to bring in ?
In 54 years of non stop support I have seen a 3rd and 2nd division championship and 1 FA cup victory and that is probably more than most. We deserve better but we have no voice to the powers that be and even if we did they wouldn't listed. The only weapon that we have to show a total lack of confidence in the present ownership by our non attendance. I've absolutely no idea what this may or may not achieve but at least it is some form of action and would at the very least show the owners that we really have had enough.
I guess that it's out there for open discussion but I can't think of any other action that may at least get some sort of reaction, what ever that may be!!
So in response to the OP..... YES, let's give it a go.
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Yes...well I believe you have to be careful what you wish for. L2 or the abyss below beckons if you starve the club of money.
These guys either buy cheap & sell high (hence their original seemingly easy plan). Otherwise they will do what is tantamount to legalised asset stripping...then sell as high as they can so the problems are someone else's.

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #213
Bruce the Boot said:
Are you for real ? What have their investors done wrong , and you want to hassle them ? Wat a plonker you are !
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Yeah...like investors in weapon producers have done nothing whatsoever & should feel no guilt about the refugee crisis the world is enduring nor the many thousands of would be refugees if they had chance before their deaths you mean?

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #214
I bet ticket master and SISU are preying for a
ST boycott after this years shambles getting
Tickets delivered.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #215
Putting money in the sisu pockets in advance is potty
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #216
SkyblueBazza said:
You don't fully get the new rules then?

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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You don't fully get that owners can make donations then?
 

covmark

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #217
Sky Blue Kid said:
You don't fully get that owners can make donations then?
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Except certain owners that don't give a shit about the club they own won't give donations.

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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #218
covmark said:
Except certain owners that don't give a shit about the club they own won't give donations.

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Bloody hell... You get a like.:jawdrop:
 

Bruce the Boot

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #219
clint van damme said:
can imagine the scene in your local, quick drink up, that boring c**t will be here in a minute!
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You might be grown up enough one day togo the pub .
 

covmark

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #220
Sky Blue Kid said:
Bloody hell... You get a like.:jawdrop:
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Everyone knows they couldn't care less about our club. It's how we help our club in spite of our shit owners is where we differ.
You think starving them of money works, I don't.
We all support CCFC at the end of it all though.

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #221
Talking of donations, would you donate to something where the people that enjoy it just call you wankers - and have stated they're not giving another penny more until you go... I mean I dislike SISU as much as the next man but seriously - you're effectively saying "give us more money and fuck off!"
 

Paxman II

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #222
I think once you all start thinking about the football and watching your beloved Sky Blues you may realise there by the grace of god we go. SISU may have been the worst owners ever but have stabilised their own mess now and are moving in the right direction - if slowly. They messed up the stadium, they are still arguing in court but they are still here. If they were not I'm afraid we would not exist.
The best you can hope is we get promoted and we become worthy of some investment. Quite how protest can be of any help to our situation is ridiculous. If you bring more doom and gloom then you just compound an issue you can do nothing about.
Best get behind the team and hope we can make promotion. Things then could change very quickly.
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #223
Paxman II said:
I think once you all start thinking about the football and watching your beloved Sky Blues you may realise there by the grace of god we go. SISU may have been the worst owners ever but have stabilised their own mess now and are moving in the right direction - if slowly. They messed up the stadium, they are still arguing in court but they are still here. If they were not I'm afraid we would not exist.
The best you can hope is we get promoted and we become worthy of some investment. Quite how protest can be of any help to our situation is ridiculous. If you bring more doom and gloom then you just compound an issue you can do nothing about.
Best get behind the team and hope we can make promotion. Things then could change very quickly.
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bollocks - of course we would still exist without them. They are no longer investing, so the day they leave my dog could take over, and he would be more popular than sisu, and straight away revenue would increase . How long and how far down the divisions can you defend them. maybe you will be happy having your local derby v Bedworth
 
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Paxman II

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #224
skybluesam66 said:
bollocks - of course we would still exist without them. They are no longer investing, so the day they leave my dog could take over, and he would be more popular than sisu, and straight away revenue would increase . How long and how far down the divisions can you defend them. maybe you will be happy having your local derby v Bedworth
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Its not bollocks and I,m sure your dog is not that bothered.
Quite why you think revenue would increase when SISU leave has no base what so ever. Attendance levels are based on the success on the pitch not on whoever own us. Its not a magic wand you can wave even if investment happened. Stability and a longer term plan would be far more desirable and the hope we can gain promotion which investment even if applied can not guarantee.
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #225
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Talking of donations, would you donate to something where the people that enjoy it just call you wankers - and have stated they're not giving another penny more until you go... I mean I dislike SISU as much as the next man but seriously - you're effectively saying "give us more money and fuck off!"
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What I'm saying is I'd like them to reverse the nine years trend and at least try to make this football Club successful. My stance wouldn't be what it is now if they had.
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #226
Bruce the Boot said:
You might be grown up enough one day togo the pub .
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You are boring

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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #227
skyblue1991 said:
You are one boring c**t.

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And you're not?
 

Bruce the Boot

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #228
Paxman II said:
Its not bollocks and I,m sure your dog is not that bothered.
Quite why you think revenue would increase when SISU leave has no base what so ever. Attendance levels are based on the success on the pitch not on whoever own us. Its not a magic wand you can wave even if investment happened. Stability and a longer term plan would be far more desirable and the hope we can gain promotion which investment even if applied can not guarantee.
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I think its got to the stage where people would be happy with our own home and a planned future . Under Sisu we have neither so if a n other came in with plans I think the fans would give them time to deliver .
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #229
Paxman II said:
Its not bollocks and I,m sure your dog is not that bothered.
Quite why you think revenue would increase when SISU leave has no base what so ever. Attendance levels are based on the success on the pitch not on whoever own us. Its not a magic wand you can wave even if investment happened. Stability and a longer term plan would be far more desirable and the hope we can gain promotion which investment even if applied can not guarantee.
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Don't you think it would go a long way towards it though?
 

Brylowes

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #230
Paxman II said:
Its not bollocks and I,m sure your dog is not that bothered.
Quite why you think revenue would increase when SISU leave has no base what so ever. Attendance levels are based on the success on the pitch not on whoever own us. Its not a magic wand you can wave even if investment happened. Stability and a longer term plan would be far more desirable and the hope we can gain promotion which investment even if applied can not guarantee.
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SISU have created a culture of abject failure at the club, anyone that supports
A football club has to have hope, if there's no hope there's no point really.
The proof is in the pudding, crowds are falling year on year I dread to think what
The numbers will be come the winter and beyond. SISU answer will not be too
Tackle the problem in a positive way and try to create interest in the club, their
Answer will probably be 'close another stand' to save on running costs.
And some on here will no doubt agree, after all "we are where we are"
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #231
Sky Blue Kid said:
And you're not?
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Nobody of any importance has told me I am so I'll assume no.

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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #232
skyblue1991 said:
Nobody of any importance has told me I am so I'll assume no.

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For that you actually need to know someone first.
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #233
Sky Blue Kid said:
For that you actually need to know someone first.
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That answers your question then doesn't it.

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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #234
skyblue1991 said:
That answers your question then doesn't it.

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No it doesn't. You obviously don't know anybody of importance.
I do know something of importance though... When you call someone a c**t! then edit it in the hope nobody saw it, knowing the only c**t! is you.
 

Wyken Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #235
Sky Blue Kid said:
No it doesn't. You obviously don't know anybody of importance.
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Of course, I forgot you know me and my life and who I know.

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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #236
skyblue1991 said:
Of course, I forgot you know me and my life and who I know.

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And you just answered the question about not knowing anybody of importance by saying......
skyblue1991 said: ↑
You are one boring c**t.

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Uneditted version
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #237
skyblue1991 said:
Of course, I forgot you know me and my life and who I know.

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Just adding.... I don't want to know you or anything about your life. I've already formed my opinions about you from your posts.
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #238
Sky Blue Kid said:
Just adding.... I don't want to know you or anything about your life. I've already formed my opinions about you from your posts.
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Im glad we can agree on something.

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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #239
Sky Blue Kid said:
You don't fully get that owners can make donations then?
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You don't get the difference between business ownership & management as opposed to a personal hobby then?

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 

Warwickhunt

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #240
The way it's all going don't think there will be a club there next season to buy a season ticket for!
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #241
SkyblueBazza said:
You don't get the difference between business ownership & management as opposed to a personal hobby then?

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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5) Are owners allowed to inject money into their club as they like or through sponsorship?

If a club's owner injects money into the club through a sponsorship deal with a company to which he is related, then UEFA's competent bodies will investigate and, if necessary, adapt the calculations of the break-even result for the sponsorship revenues to the level which is appropriate ('fair value') according to market prices.

Under the updated regulations, any entity that, alone or in aggregate together with other entities which are linked to the same owner or government, represent more than 30% of the club's total revenues is automatically considered a related party.

You were saying?
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #242
Sky Blue Kid said:
5) Are owners allowed to inject money into their club as they like or through sponsorship?

If a club's owner injects money into the club through a sponsorship deal with a company to which he is related, then UEFA's competent bodies will investigate and, if necessary, adapt the calculations of the break-even result for the sponsorship revenues to the level which is appropriate ('fair value') according to market prices.

Under the updated regulations, any entity that, alone or in aggregate together with other entities which are linked to the same owner or government, represent more than 30% of the club's total revenues is automatically considered a related party.

You were saying?
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Google...copy & paste? Lol

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #243
SkyblueBazza said:
Google...copy & paste? Lol

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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What's up? Proof not good enough for you?
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #244
Sky Blue Kid said:
What's up? Proof not good enough for you?
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It's just words though. My point is that look at Cardiff. Where are they now? Bottom - same place as us only a league higher & yes having won a match...ultimately the money donations are a stop-gap measure. The same old problems resurface in the end.

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #245
SkyblueBazza said:
It's just words though. My point is that look at Cardiff. Where are they now? Bottom - same place as us only a league higher & yes having won a match...ultimately the money donations are a stop-gap measure. The same old problems resurface in the end.

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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So written proof isn't worth the paper it's written on then eh?
 
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