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Would you sell Rudoni? (13 Viewers)

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  • Start date Yesterday at 12:27 PM
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 1:29 PM
  • #36
fernandopartridge said:
1. The season is ongoing, we would not have the time to upgrade the squad realistically
2. The fee will still be there next summer
3. It will have a material affect on our ability to compete for promotion this season - the value of promotion makes this fee pale into utter insignificance
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1. We would have ample time to strengthen this season, just as we did last year with Grimes in January etc. And the value of the fee isn’t limited to this season of course.
2. That’s the risk you take - the value of your asset can go up and down etc
3. While there is obviously risk involved here too, this is the argument I have the most time for. But when the same people making it are also whining how ‘the squad doesn’t stand a chance unless we sign four more players’ etc then can you really factor in the opportunity cost of promotion?
 

Matt smith

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  • Yesterday at 1:32 PM
  • #37
SBT said:
1. We would have ample time to strengthen this season, just as we did last year with Grimes in January etc. And the value of the fee isn’t limited to this season of course.
2. That’s the risk you take - the value of your asset can go up and down etc
3. While there is obviously risk involved here too, this is the argument I have the most time for. But when the same people making it are also whining how ‘the squad doesn’t stand a chance unless we sign four more players’ etc then can you really factor in the opportunity cost of promotion?
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This squad needs 2 signings of high quality currently for a promotion push
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 1:32 PM
  • #38
Chicken Mcgraw said:
Do you honestly believe if we lost Rudoni we would be in a better place when the window shuts? Really?
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Perhaps not, but our decision-making in transfer dealing isn’t limited to one transfer window at a time, is it? If it benefits the squad for the next four years, does it matter if we’re slightly worse for the next four months?
 

mark82

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  • Yesterday at 1:35 PM
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Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Yesterday at 1:35 PM
  • #40
SBT said:
Perhaps not, but our decision-making in transfer dealing isn’t limited to one transfer window at a time, is it? If it benefits the squad for the next four years, does it matter if we’re slightly worse for the next four months?
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Okay, do you honestly believe we’d be better off on January 31st? I don’t believe King or Lampard are interested in the next four years.
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 1:35 PM
  • #41
Matt smith said:
This squad needs 2 signings of high quality currently for a promotion push
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If the squad isn’t currently good enough for a promotion push and assuming our business is basically done then our season is basically over anyway? Why so upset about cashing in on Rudoni now then?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 1:50 PM
  • #42
SBT said:
Perhaps not, but our decision-making in transfer dealing isn’t limited to one transfer window at a time, is it? If it benefits the squad for the next four years, does it matter if we’re slightly worse for the next four months?
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Well yes as that’s half a season gone
 

Skybluecol

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  • Yesterday at 1:51 PM
  • #43
£20m to a Prem side with a sell on and a guaranteed loan for whole season then you'd have my ear

Selling your best player to a Championship rival after the season has started - not a chance, we wouldn't be able to buy someone to place him to cover half the Goal Involvements....even if we improved the squad I'm not so sure it's for the best this season and too late imo
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Yesterday at 1:51 PM
  • #44
100% no. It’d jeopardise the season being this far into the window.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Yesterday at 2:00 PM
  • #45
SBT said:
If the squad isn’t currently good enough for a promotion push and assuming our business is basically done then our season is basically over anyway? Why so upset about cashing in on Rudoni now then?
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Why would our business be done? With or without Rudoni I think 2 signings would come in minimum
 

Offhegoes

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  • Yesterday at 2:02 PM
  • #46
Would end our season right there. Won't be enough time to adequately replace him, and who could. The figure banded about of £15M is a disgrace. With his development and closeness with Frank Lampard, I would assume that will see Frank go too, or certainly put a strain on his working relationship with King.
He's the one player we do not sell this season.
 
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Covcraig@bury

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  • Yesterday at 2:03 PM
  • #47
Already sold
 
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procdoc

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  • Yesterday at 2:05 PM
  • #48
Covcraig@bury said:
Already sold
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huh?
 
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Martw

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  • Yesterday at 2:06 PM
  • #49
Covcraig@bury said:
Already sold
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Who what where when ?
 

skybluecam

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  • Yesterday at 2:13 PM
  • #50
I’d want slightly more. And it would be a huge blow to our chances this season.
 
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procdoc

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  • Yesterday at 2:14 PM
  • #51
30 million or fuck off would be my answer. Losing him will derail the season as we would have barely anytime to adequately replace
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Yesterday at 2:28 PM
  • #52
If those terms were offered by a Prem team I’d say yes, but not to a team who we’re competing with for promotion imagine he’s the difference between us and Southampton during the playoffs? We’d all be gutted
 
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Levship20

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  • Yesterday at 2:31 PM
  • #53
procdoc said:
30 million or fuck off would be my answer. Losing him will derail the season as we would have barely anytime to adequately replace
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Best response of the day!!! 30m or do one if they want him that bad, then pay top dollar or look elsewhere
 
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Yorkshire SB

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  • Yesterday at 2:40 PM
  • #54
I want to keep Rudoni.

However, a deal worth £25m or more and he’s gone.

It all boils down to what happens in the remainder of the month. If we sell and can bring in 3 quality additions to the tune of £20m+ then I think everyone would be happy. If we can’t then what’s the point. We’ve written the season off.
 
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Yesterday at 2:49 PM
  • #55
No I wouldn’t sell him to a rival championship club but everyone has their price.

Doug is a businessman first and it makes economic sense to sell high and buy to invest.

I’d also add that I feel that Rudoni hampers our formation and that without him we’d either have an extra midfielder or an extra attacker.

Like last night we were able to play a different formation without him.

Rudoni is a bloody baller tho and I’d rather have him in the side.


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Mcbean

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  • Yesterday at 3:28 PM
  • #56
not enough time to replace even with 30m to make a decent shot of promotion
 
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stgeorge1966

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  • Yesterday at 3:41 PM
  • #57
25 million + Plus Add On for future sale, appearances etc and its a Yes from me as long as Frankie Boy gets 15-18million
 
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Macca

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  • Yesterday at 3:51 PM
  • #58
If you want to write off the season then crack on
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 5:48 PM
  • #59
SBT said:
If the squad isn’t currently good enough for a promotion push and assuming our business is basically done then our season is basically over anyway? Why so upset about cashing in on Rudoni now then?
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Why isn't our squad good enough? The same players finished 5th last season. With the addition of Rushworth we are arguably stronger.
Selling Rudoni and starting again with limited time left for us to act before the transfer window closes is a sure fire way to stop any hopes of promotion. His contract is long enough so that there is no panic need to sell, and we shouldn't do so unless he himself starts agitating for a move.
 
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Woodster

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  • Yesterday at 5:54 PM
  • #60
If you can reinvest £20m on a number of targets already identified which will make the squad stronger, then he goes.

If you end up with £20m you can’t spend and end up wasting it, then he should stay.
 
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CCFCAnalysis

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  • Yesterday at 6:20 PM
  • #61
fernandopartridge said:
No, regardless of the fee at this point I would not sell him to anybody. I am confident that we'd still be able to sell next summer for a fee at least as high.
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You’d have thought that with Sheaf


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Match Plot

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  • Yesterday at 6:31 PM
  • #62
Selling Rudoni now would be a major disappointment. Key player last season and got better with every game. Unlikely to be a one season wonder with the kind of progression under Lampard. We’ve already started the season and to pull a major player (that you’ve not planned for on replacement) would have a massive impact to the season.
 

TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 6:32 PM
  • #63
CCFCAnalysis said:
You’d have thought that with Sheaf


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You can't treat every player as a ticking time bomb. It's beyond cowardly.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Yesterday at 6:40 PM
  • #64
CCFCAnalysis said:
You’d have thought that with Sheaf


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Luckily players with an injury record like Sheaf are in the minority
 

MacReady

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  • Yesterday at 6:53 PM
  • #65
Regardless of money I’ll be honest. If he goes at this point right at the start of the season I will literally book into a Travelodge and smear shit all over the walls.
 
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CCFCAnalysis

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  • Yesterday at 7:03 PM
  • #66
TomRad85 said:
You can't treat every player as a ticking time bomb. It's beyond cowardly.
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Values of assets change consistently. There’s no guarantee (in fact it’s pretty unlikely) that Rudoni has such a good season again.

Sell when the value is high, reinvest wisely, repeat


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TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 7:05 PM
  • #67
CCFCAnalysis said:
Values of assets change consistently. There’s no guarantee (in fact it’s pretty unlikely) that Rudoni has such a good season again.

Sell when the value is high, reinvest wisely, repeat


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Yeh and his replacement might get hit by a bus the day after we buy him. Why invest anything at all in anyone?
Have you considered he might have a better season and his value goes up or is it always worse case scenario?
 

CCFCAnalysis

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  • Yesterday at 7:30 PM
  • #68
TomRad85 said:
Yeh and his replacement might get hit by a bus the day after we buy him. Why invest anything at all in anyone?
Have you considered he might have a better season and his value goes up or is it always worse case scenario?
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Yes.

You clearly don’t sell unless it’s a big number. 20m ish.

If selling Rudoni means we can get a Doyle/Hughes and then a CAM replacement I’m all for it.

Need to think of the player too. He’ll want to go. He’ll be doubling his salary and quadrupling his chances of being a premier league player next season


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TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 7:32 PM
  • #69
CCFCAnalysis said:
Yes.

You clearly don’t sell unless it’s a big number. 20m ish.

If selling Rudoni means we can get a Doyle/Hughes and then a CAM replacement I’m all for it.

Need to think of the player too. He’ll want to go. He’ll be doubling his salary and quadrupling his chances of being a premier league player next season


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With respect I don't have to think of the player. He's signed a contract and earns good money. We'd be denying him a move to league rival, he'd get over it.
 
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CCFCAnalysis

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  • Yesterday at 7:37 PM
  • #70
TomRad85 said:
With respect I don't have to think of the player. He's signed a contract and earns good money. We'd be denying him a move to league rival, he'd get over it.
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And they’re not a league rival. We’re competing with Norwich, WBA, Boro.

Not with parachute payment club with 5 x the wage budget


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