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Would you sell him for £10m (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Dec 24, 2015
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Glen

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  • Dec 24, 2015
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http://futnsoccer.com/2015/12/24/arsenal-eyeing-10million-move-19year-sensation/

Now I think it is different, as I would not have sold for £5m but with £10m rumoured for Maddison it is different, but only if TM demands and gets £2-£4m of that on playing budget.
 

skybluealan

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #2
For me the answer to that question is "NO". Maddison still needs to develop his skills and he can do this in the Championship next season with Coventry.
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #3
Glen said:
http://futnsoccer.com/2015/12/24/arsenal-eyeing-10million-move-19year-sensation/

Now I think it is different, as I would not have sold for £5m but with £10m rumoured for Maddison it is different, but only if TM demands and gets £2-£4m of that on playing budget.
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if it was 10m TM should demand 0,5m this season with another 6m on promotion if achieved - anything less, and it is just money into sisus coffers, so no
 

higgs

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #4
10 million plus crowley
 
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tom88

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #5
For me the answer to that question is "NO". Maddison still needs to develop his skills and he can do this in the Championship next season with Coventry
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£10m is a lot of money for our level. If they paid £10m for him and loaned him back for a season or two and TM was aloud 20-40% of that to rebuild a team then that would be a great deal and must be considered.

If we were to sell him for £10m & If Wilson has a good season and is sold by Bournemouth then that could be a financial turning point for us.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #6
He has potential to be a top player and that is what the big boys buy, potential, they can afford to gamble looking for the next Rooney. Arsenal did it successfully with Theo Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Aaron Ramsey but flopped with Francis Jeffers. The going rate is about £10million. If Tony Mowbray and Mark Venus were given the bulk of a big fee to invest in the squad selling would be tempting I can't see our owners doing that I seriously doubt much more than 10% would be allowed, also if his career really took off say in the championship his value would multiply so a delemma for our owner.

A question do transfer fees count as earnings so allowing us to spend more ?
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #7
Snap. Their. Hands. Off.

Thats bloody good money and can change the fortunes of the club. If it's all up front, I'd take it.

As with Wilson though, it would only be worth doing if all the cash is made available for squad improvements. Otherwise, fuck off. The You You I
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #8
Raining on my phone, ignore spazzy last sentence.
 

GaryJones

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #9
You would just HAVE to sell for 10 million! No question.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #10
Isn't there another thread on this already?
 

Otis

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #11
Skyblueweeman said:
Isn't there another thread on this already?
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Never stopped us before.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #12
GaryJones said:
You would just HAVE to sell for 10 million! No question.
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Yes. It would be madness not too. No guarantee at all he'll be worth more in two years time. Many, many players don't progress as hoped for many reasons. If we can get him back on loan too then even better still.

Think it would be crazy to turn down an offer of 10m. It will not be that much though anyway.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #13
shmmeee said:
Snap. Their. Hands. Off.

Thats bloody good money and can change the fortunes of the club. If it's all up front, I'd take it.

As with Wilson though, it would only be worth doing if all the cash is made available for squad improvements. Otherwise, fuck off. The You You I
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The You You are one of my favourite bands, apart from the difficult second album of course.
 

mechaishida

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #14
Basically, yes. Ask for a chunk up front, add loan back clauses and sell-on fees.

It's crucial this deal is done correctly, for us and for Madders.

I doubt we'll get £10mil, that's daft money, if we got £5mil I'd still say yes because it contributes a lot of stability to next season. Plus, if we loan Madders back, win/win situation.

It'll be a tidy earner for the club and Madders will still be loaned back to us to further his development with game time. Merry Xmas Coventry City, let's 'ave it.
 
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ollyservetta

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #15
If we do go up, we need some money, I'm already thinking how great to go straight up but then how good to have a trip to wembly and the extra money and momentum that will bring .10 mill is a lot of money , but would it replace him because he is the type of player we will need if we are going to progress. On the flip side we need to strengthen and try to stop relying on loans .my big worry is we wont see enough of the money to make selling worth while . Only T.M knows his worth to the team and that must come before his worth to the club
 

Otis

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #16
ollyservetta said:
If we do go up, we need some money, I'm already thinking how great to go straight up but then how good to have a trip to wembly and the extra money and momentum that will bring .10 mill is a lot of money , but would it replace him because he is the type of player we will need if we are going to progress. On the flip side we need to strengthen and try to stop relying on loans .my big worry is we wont see enough of the money to make selling worth while . Only T.M knows his worth to the team and that must come before his worth to the club
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You ask 'will it replace him?' But you have to remember the lad has only made 16 appearances for us. It's not like he's been the cornerstone of our side for some time is it.

He's a talented kid, but one we haven't seen enough of. Someone comes in with a good offer and offers to loan him back, then it would be bad business to turn that down.
 

matesx

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #17
hell yes

transform our finances
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #18
He was friendly and refreshingly honest about things yesterday. Mostly he's so young!!!

Really hope he hits the ground running and continues to do so for the rest of the season
 

Otis

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #19
Sky Blue Pete said:
He was friendly and refreshingly honest about things yesterday. Mostly he's so young!!!

Really hope he hits the ground running and continues to do so for the rest of the season
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At my age everyone seems so young, Pete.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #20
Otis said:
At my age everyone seems so young, Pete.
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ditto!
 

mechaishida

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #21
Otis said:
At my age everyone seems so young, Pete.
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Can't even remember what I had for breakfast an hour ago, let alone what it was like to be 19 with so much potential.

My potential was restricted purely to wankathons and flunking exams, though.
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #22
I'm sure there has been enquiries at the very least from bigger clubs, as TM would not have had that conversation with Joy.

But it's ludicrous to even entertain the thought of sums of £10m.

Thats is practically a fair chunk of what it Wasps to buy their share of the Ricoh.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #23
Londonccfcfan said:
I'm sure there has been enquiries at the very least from bigger clubs, as TM would not have had that conversation with Joy.

But it's ludicrous to even entertain the thought of sums of £10m.

Thats is practically a fair chunk of what it Wasps to buy their share of the Ricoh.
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With the money in the PL, why not this amount. Chambers (a full back) £16m from Southampton, Fulham paid £12m for McCormack, Forest £5m for Assombolonga. Money knocking about has increased enormously since those latter transfers. You don't ask, you don't get. Sell high, buy low. By the way - I want to keep him , Get the benefit on the pitch (he has a while left on his contract), and his value should continue to increase, barring major injury.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 24, 2015
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mechaishida said:
Can't even remember what I had for breakfast an hour ago, let alone what it was like to be 19 with so much potential.

My potential was restricted purely to wankathons and flunking exams, though.
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I forget loads of stuff these days.

I was heartened though (as well as shocked too mind) that my daughter is 11 and says she doesn't know how to spell her mum's name.

It's obvious isn't it, it's M U M.
 

westofrayne

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #25
If I could pocket it all yes.

The lad needs to play football not sit in an U21 side, if he goes to another club, there needs to be a loan back agreement, but he will end up loaned to a championship side, so no promotion this season = last we ever see of him playing for City.

As I've said in a previous thread, enjoy watching him till Jan/May, sadly he will be gone, its just who too.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #26
£ 10M would be good business for the club but it will never happen. I had it on good authority yesterday that no transfer fee is ever based on potential so he's only woth £ 5M tops.
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #27
Realistically though every club would test our resolve. They would start the bidding very low. Just like they did with Wilson....

Btw it's not always in the clubs or TM hands. Once young heads are turned it can become very unsettling. Especially when the young lad can possibly go from earning 60k p/a (not bad for a 18 year old). To possibly 250k p/a.

scenario Arsenal offer a firm bid of £2m , that's practically 75% of our playing budget. The board would be short sighted to sell but would very tempted.

Hes an asset no doubt. But a bird in your hand is always better than two in the bush.

The development he would get training in and around the Arsenal first team would be on a different stratosphere compared to here with all respect.
 

mechaishida

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #28
Londonccfcfan said:
Realistically though every club would test our resolve. They would start the bidding very low. Just like they did with Wilson....

Btw it's not always in the clubs or TM hands. Once young heads are turned it can become very unsettling. Especially when the young lad can possibly go from earning 60k p/a (not bad for a 18 year old). To possibly 250k p/a.

scenario Arsenal offer a firm bid of £2m , that's practically 75% of our playing budget. The board would be short sighted to sell but would very tempted.

Hes an asset no doubt. But a bird in your hand is always better than two in the bush.

The development he would get training in and around the Arsenal first team would be on a different stratosphere compared to here with all respect.
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I guess it's wishful thinking to hope for a large up-front fee, loan-back clauses etc, but despite everyone acknowledging that his development would be hampered by languishing in a top flight reserves team, doesn't mean it won't happen.

Personally, there's no better training and development program than playing matches and evolving via a game environment. If Madders does leave, I hope it's for a £5mil-ish fee, with a loan-back clause for at least 18 months. Whether it transpires that way, I don't know.

I just hope SISU don't flap and accept the first bid on the table, like you highlighted. We'd easily start a bidding war if the board are patient.
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #29
Yes


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Londonccfcfan

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #30
All conjecture
 

mechaishida

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #31
Londonccfcfan said:
All conjecture
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Based on logical predictions regarding proceedings and outcomes.
 

Paxman II

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #32
10m? Hell YES. For a player believed to be a future star not yet anything other than potential. So far he has played a handful of games and there is no guarantee he will achieve that start status is there? We have not exactly missed him have we?

The issue is what will happen with the 10m?

I understand our owners ways of doing business but they did straighten themselves out somewhat and seem to understand what is needed to get to where they want to be - a position that will attract buyers. To that end they surely would reinvest the majority of that 10m and give what Stupot and Torch want and have the money to compete in the championship.

I doubt he would be loaned back.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #33
I would try and hold on for a bit longer.
After all we were too quick selling callum Wilson to the first buyer to come along. I believe should have gone for at least double the amount we got.
Also Imagine him in today's team wow that would have been something for sore eyes.
PUSB
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #34
Paxman II said:
10m? Hell YES. For a player believed to be a future star not yet anything other than potential. So far he has played a handful of games and there is no guarantee he will achieve that start status is there? We have not exactly missed him have we?

The issue is what will happen with the 10m?

I understand our owners ways of doing business but they did straighten themselves out somewhat and seem to understand what is needed to get to where they want to be - a position that will attract buyers. To that end they surely would reinvest the majority of that 10m and give what Stupot and Torch want and have the money to compete in the championship.

I doubt he would be loaned back.
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Why wouldn't he be loaned back?
Do you believe he would get into their squads as he is?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Dec 24, 2015
  • #35
Otis said:
At my age everyone seems so young, Pete.
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Otis I feel old when I see him play as I played in the same team as his dad at around 18.

To answer the question anything above 5 million is good money at this stage but he should avoid Arsenal they have too many like him already, he should look at Spurs or even somewhere like Stoke.
 
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