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Would it effect your working performance (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Mar 12, 2013
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Grendel

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #36
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
I would, for balance, be interested in hearing a candid view from a player with kids settled in a local school. Whilst they may in the medium term find employment elsewhere, it simply has to be unsettling until clarity prevails
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Well yes happens all the time. "Player turns down big move as his children like their English teacher".
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #37
dongonzalos said:
Fleck had to move from Glasgow to Coventry when this happened to him
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Fleck refused to stay. He got a better offer. Edjuingele moved from Greece. Behave yourself.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #38
I know this might sound completely mental, but it is possible to have a good day at the office and still be worried about the overall state of your employer. To claim there's no impact on the players is ludicrous (frankly I'd be more worried if they were so insulated from reality that they didn't have a clue what was happening), but as for exactly what the impact is, and how damaging it could be, forgive me if I wait to see more than three hours worth of performances before making some grand judgement.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #39
Grendel said:
Fleck refused to stay. He got a better offer. Edjuingele moved from Greece. Behave yourself.
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He plays for a club it goes into liquidation.

A new club forms several division below. He has to move clubs to try and get comparable wages.
I am sure if he could have done that in Glasgow he would.

What does Edge have to about it?

Again this is cringeworthy
 

covcity4life

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #40
they gaid paid thousands a week to play a GAME that they should love

so no,it should not effect them
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #41
SBT said:
I know this might sound completely mental, but it is possible to have a good day at the office and still be worried about the overall state of your employer. To claim there's no impact on the players is ludicrous (frankly I'd be more worried if they were so insulated from reality that they didn't have a clue what was happening), but as for exactly what the impact is, and how damaging it could be, forgive me if I wait to see more than three hours worth of performances before making some grand judgement.
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It could definitely have a positive impact on some who will say. I need to show other scouts what I can do.
Others wont care.
Others I am sure it will play on their mind.
But this affects every employee not just players.
I would hedge my bets it has a more overall negative impact than positive.

I guess when Wagg made that comment he was just generally referring to the rent row, chopping and changing managers.

I think this is different this is the boss directly saying we may be closed down in a week or so.

That directly affects the players. They cannot be that stupid to not realise
 
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McLovin87

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #42
I would have no problem with people booing me day in day out at my workplace.

Then again I work as a freelance Pantomime villain!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #43
I used to ref in the Coventry Minor League and up in Scotland for a while. If I wasn't getting booed I'd be worried.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #44
A close friend of mine worked for one of those Quango's identified by David Cameron. He was a manager a a decent level.
Cameron suggested if he came into power he would get rid of them.
During that period of speculation it became a lot harder to manage staff.
People became less motivated. Took days of sick where it was likely they were job hunting.
Once Cameron came in and announced he was going to get rid. This intensified people were at work taking phone calls and making phone calls to other companies.
Some were holding in for redundancy others jumping shop straight away.
In house fighting intensified.
Work productivity plummeted.
 

torchomatic

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #45
So why does work productivity only plummet when we're at home?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #46
dongonzalos said:
A close friend of mine worked for one of those Quango's identified by David Cameron. He was a manager a a decent level.
Cameron suggested if he came into power he would get rid of them.
During that period of speculation it became a lot harder to manage staff.
People became less motivated. Took days of sick where it was likely they were job hunting.
Once Cameron came in and announced he was going to get rid. This intensified people were at work taking phone calls and making phone calls to other companies.
Some were holding in for redundancy others jumping shop straight away.
In house fighting intensified.
Work productivity plummeted.
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If he worked for the major quango in Cheylesmore you're talking bollocks.

People working in quangos are used to working with the cloud of potential redudancy over their heads, remember that quangos have always been stated to have a maximum lifespan, also remember that dissolving a quango doesn't mean that people lose their jobs.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #47
fernandopartridge said:
If he worked for the major quango in Cheylesmore you're talking bollocks.

People working in quangos are used to working with the cloud of potential redudancy over their heads, remember that quangos have always been stated to have a maximum lifespan, also remember that dissolving a quango doesn't mean that people lose their jobs.
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It wasn't in Cheylesmore no
And to suggest that closing down a quango does not mean that people lose their jobs does fit in the speaking bollox category
20% of workers are now temping in agencies around the Coventry area, most of them on the minimum wage
20% have landed full-time jobs in the private sector
a further 20% have become freelance or are in the process of trying to set up their own businesses
three people are applying their skills in the Middle East.
That leaves 40% of staff - some 70 people - still looking for work.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #48
torchomatic said:
So why does work productivity only plummet when we're at home?
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So I take it you think it will have an overall positive impact on staff Torch?

Lets not forget the announcement was made Monday. Last time I checked today is Wednesday.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #49
torchomatic said:
So why does work productivity only plummet when we're at home?
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We've just managed a draw after 4 defeats and come back from two goals down for the first time I would guess this season. So it's just a bot of nonsense.
 
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Taga

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #50
torchomatic said:
So why does work productivity only plummet when we're at home?
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Exactly. Fans trying to look for excuses for poor player performances at home should look at the environment they create rather than look to someone else to blame (I blame SISU for my runny egg this morning syndrome). There is a subtle difference in the culture of home and away support and it shows up in the performances.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #51
dongonzalos said:
It wasn't in Cheylesmore no
And to suggest that closing down a quango does not mean that people lose their jobs does fit in the speaking bollox category
20% of workers are now temping in agencies around the Coventry area, most of them on the minimum wage
20% have landed full-time jobs in the private sector
a further 20% have become freelance or are in the process of trying to set up their own businesses
three people are applying their skills in the Middle East.
That leaves 40% of staff - some 70 people - still looking for work.
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I worked in a quango that was closed down. NOBODY lost their job. That is a fact.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #52
fernandopartridge said:
I worked in a quango that was closed down. NOBODY lost their job. That is a fact.
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Well thanks for that this one was not based in Cheylesmore and people did lose their jobs.

So I am not as you so eloquently put it speaking bollocks!

However people do lose jobs when quangos are closed up

Maybe not at your particular one but at others so alas you are speaking bollocks
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #53
Taga said:
Exactly. Fans trying to look for excuses for poor player performances at home should look at the environment they create rather than look to someone else to blame (I blame SISU for my runny egg this morning syndrome). There is a subtle difference in the culture of home and away support and it shows up in the performances.
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Taga do you think Tim Fishers statement to the national press that the club may close down in the next few weeks.
Has had an overall positive impact on morale of all staff at CCFC, a negative one or no impact at all.

Personally I think it has to have a negative one
 
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Taga

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #54
dongonzalos said:
Taga do you think Tim Fishers statement to the national press that the club may close down in the next few weeks.
Has had an overall positive impact on morale of all staff at CCFC, a negative one or no impact at all.

Personally I think it has to have a negative one
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It will have a small negative impact... but my point is that when you are on the pitch you are not impacted by statements from the board but you really are affected by fans booing (and cheering....remember those days at home). In summary, players are more affected by fan reaction than press talk when actually playing, so we should look at us fans more than the board for not helping the players whilst on the pitch.

Not sure i've articulated this very well but I hope you get my point.
 
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Ashdown1

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #55
They were probably affected negatively by all those feckers who knobbed off home with 15 minutes to go as well !!
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #56
Taga said:
It will have a small negative impact... but my point is that when you are on the pitch you are not impacted by statements from the board but you really are affected by fans booing (and cheering....remember those days at home). In summary, players are more affected by fan reaction than press talk when actually playing, so we should look at us fans more than the board for not helping the players whilst on the pitch.

Not sure i've articulated this very well but I hope you get my point.
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I get your point.

It should have no impact at all once they are on the pitch.

I agree fan reaction at the time has more impact.

However I think it does impact on the staff.
The players attitude for training etc and their morale and commitment.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #57
We have a team six points off the play off and their boss doing this?

Well done once again.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #58
dongonzalos said:
Well thanks for that this one was not based in Cheylesmore and people did lose their jobs.

So I am not as you so eloquently put it speaking bollocks!

However people do lose jobs when quangos are closed up

Maybe not at your particular one but at others so alas you are speaking bollocks
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It's funny actually because one of its subsequent quangos was also closed, and guess what, nobody lost their job.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #59
fernandopartridge said:
It's funny actually because one of its subsequent quangos was also closed, and guess what, nobody lost their job.
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Have you heard of Becta?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2013
  • #60
fernandopartridge said:
It's funny actually because one of its subsequent quangos was also closed, and guess what, nobody lost their job.
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12932140
 
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