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Women's Boxing in the Olympics (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Aug 1, 2024
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Como

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #141
When you can not work out who is who the logical route is to move to open categories.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #142
Always trust the Russians I say!
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #143
Como said:
When you can not work out who is who the logical route is to move to open categories.
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A simple power rating would suffice in my opinion,not castigating a significant proportion of women who have been born ,lived as women,are women just on some dodgy russian federation say so and amplified by big smart don before the event,just like a stable genius,demi God,predicts event's does Don!
 

oakey

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #144
What nonsense.
Women's sport was created to exclude males and specifically male advantage.
Forget Russians and Donalds and focus on the issue.
If an individual is male they must be excluded from the women's category.
It is a regulatory body's actual job to protect that category by having entry requirements - most obviously a sex screening process.
The IOC has refused to do this. They have no interest in protecting the integrity of women's sport. They are happy to use birth certificates to include males in women's sport.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #145
They're women from birth and have been for eons, with their children in tow,get real and stop trying to create a new wedge issue!!
 
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oakey

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #146
wingy said:
They're women from birth and have been for eons, with their children in tow,get real and stop trying to create a new wedge issue!!
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Nonsense
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #147
oakey said:
Nonsense
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Data?
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #148
oakey said:
What nonsense.
Women's sport was created to exclude males and specifically male advantage.
Forget Russians and Donalds and focus on the issue.
If an individual is male they must be excluded from the women's category.
It is a regulatory body's actual job to protect that category by having entry requirements - most obviously a sex screening process.
The IOC has refused to do this. They have no interest in protecting the integrity of women's sport. They are happy to use birth certificates to include males in women's sport.
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And it still does,get a power co -iffecient and measure that if you want, but it's a women's sport and she is a woman, sorry, for your loss of Identity, natural all the way here!
 

oakey

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #149
wingy said:
Data?
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What data would you need to confirm whether these athletes are male or female?
The IOC has chosen either to require no medical evidence and accept a birth certificate OR they have medical evidence which they have kept to themselves.
Both options demonstrate a failure to govern with any integrity.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #150
oakey said:
What data would you need to confirm whether these athletes are male or female?
The IOC has chosen either to require no medical evidence and accept a birth certificate OR they have medical evidence which they have kept to themselves.
Both options demonstrate a failure to govern with any integrity.
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The release of the russian crap for a start and the handling back of the £100k from Gazprom!
 

oakey

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #151
wingy said:
The release of the russian crap for a start and the handling back of the £100k from Gazprom!
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Neither action would settle the issue of whether the 2 boxers are male or female, which is the crux of the controversy.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 16, 2024
  • #152
oakey said:
Neither action would settle the issue of whether the 2 boxers are male or female, which is the crux of the controversy.
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Well the £100k would be a start to prove she was genuine in her weird surrender in the fight,alleging a broken nose but on closer inspection that claim wasn't made again,the first question is enough to publicly hang Kalif,no evidence for me and the head of IAB SAID only testosterone levels were measured and confused but enough to disqualify her and the other boxer, she's not hermafridite Andy not trans, discredited from the IAB,god I may have been married to one of those described but four children later bruised knuckles from whaking me over the head!
 

Nick

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  • Nov 5, 2024
  • #153
Think it's now been confirmed that boxer is male
 
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rob9872

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #154
Nick said:
Think it's now been confirmed that boxer is male
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He'll get a sponsorship from Stella on the back of it.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #155
Nick said:
Think it's now been confirmed that boxer is male
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Seriously?
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #156
Nick said:
Think it's now been confirmed that boxer is male
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By whose measure,and in centimetres or inches?
 

rob9872

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #157
wingy said:
By whose measure,and in centimetres or inches?
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Micropenis apparently. Mines served me ok but it does have 20 stone ramming it home.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #158
No proof at all just the rantings of the governing body again IBA President.
Strange timing of this outburst?
 

Como

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #159
WaPo says it was debunked
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/04/trumps-closing-ad-features-debunked-claim-about-olympic-boxer/
 
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Como

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #160
On the other hand

 
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wingy

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #161
Staged event, makes old Donny appear a sage,hmm whose next, fucking hell? dystopia!
Want to get out of this country?
Take your pick Russia's got opportunity I hear Israel too !
 

oakey

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #162
Yet again the point is being missed.
The facts about whether individuals are male or female can (and probably have) been established. The IOC have chosen to ignore the biology and go with the political decision that biology matters less than identity and inclusion.
It looks likely that IOC know but don't care whether these boxers are male or female.
Therefore, I repeat, this is a failure of governance. When this happens it opens the door to speculation and misinformation.
For my part I am not interested in Russian interference, Trump weaponising the issue, "he said, she said". The IOC should have established the facts. They have brought this on themselves and are a disgrace.
 

oakey

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #163

The Imane Khelif matter resurfaces: can we find in it, somehow, our common humanity? | 3 Wire Sports

The story of Imane Khelif, the Algerian athlete who won gold in the women’s boxing competition at the Paris 2024 Olympic Games, is filled with layers of complication. The question confronting all of us now, with the story in the spotlight again Monday, is not just whether the Imane Khelif
www.3wiresports.com

An interesting and fairly balanced article, at least. Comments below are too.
 
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