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PVA · Mar 18, 2022

I'm very confident we'll be fine and almost certain we won't be relegated next year.

People said we'd get relegated last year.
People said we'd get relegated this year.

Fact is the squad has improved (significantly) year on year. Yes more investment would be nice but I have full faith in Robins and the recruitment to get it right.

Based on what we've seen this season there is no way that there will be 21 better teams than us next season.

Old Warwickshire lad · Mar 18, 2022

fernandopartridge said:
We're likely to be in a relegation battle again next season, with such a heavy fixture list early season we can't go into it with such little depth to the squad especially given at least one of our best players will be sold this summer. The last few weeks has exposed this lack of depth

If only one goes that will be a result. I expect 2 of 3 to be gone, and possibly manager and assistant manager.

AOM · Mar 18, 2022

Don't think we'll be fighting relegation next year, but without any proper investment and the assumption we'll lose one of O'Hare/Gyokeres/Hamer over the summer, I think we'll have peaked in the Championship this season.

It's frustrating as a bit of investment over January and we could have made a proper push. Our lack of depth and options off the bench has made our chances a lot slimmer than it could have been

KenilworthSkyBlue · Mar 18, 2022

Warwickshire lad said:
If only one goes that will be a result. I expect 2 of 3 to be gone, and possibly manager and assistant manager.

Well that's just ridiculous.

Old Warwickshire lad · Mar 18, 2022

Pessimistic but not ridiculous.

SlowerThanPlatt · Mar 18, 2022

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Well that's just ridiculous.

Yeah, I’m not sure where Robins would be going, on our current trajectory bottom half finish looks possible.

Deleted member 5849 · Mar 18, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Yeah, I’m not sure where Robins would be going, on our current trajectory bottom half finish looks possible.

His stock is high, though. If O'Neill jumped from Stoke, that would be an option - even West Brom if Bruce stuffs it up or doesn't fancy next season. If Bournemouth collapsed completely, his style of play would suit - if Wilder got offered a gig at one of the relegated clubs, Middlesbrough becomes available.

etc. etc.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Mar 18, 2022

Warwickshire lad said:
Pessimistic but not ridiculous.

It is ridiculous as there's no basis whatsoever for it. Granted one will more than likely go but I'd be astounded if we sold two.

Equally why would Robins go? It's not really the ideal time to job hunt in the Championship at the minute when numerous clubs are facing points deductions next season.

Deleted member 5849 · Mar 18, 2022

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Equally why would Robins go?

Because he took a look at Mickey Adams's career trajectory after turning down the chance to speak to West Brom, to stay with us?

Deleted member 5849 · Mar 18, 2022

Anyway, pros for Ro bins staying.

Good working relationship with chairman.
Knows the club, knows the players.
Credit in the bank with both board and supporters.
It's a job, and no guarantee of another.

Cons:

No cash
However much credit, he's always only a couple of games from the sack.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Mar 18, 2022

Deleted member 5849 said:
Because he took a look at Mickey Adams's career trajectory after turning down the chance to speak to West Brom, to stay with us?

If a club such as West Brom hypothetically did come in for him I'd imagine he'd certainly be tempted if the offer was right, but I just don't think it's as much of a foregone conclusion as people think.

Especially not now when finances are still tight and points deductions are looming for several clubs.

fernandopartridge · Mar 18, 2022

Deleted member 5849 said:
Because he took a look at Mickey Adams's career trajectory after turning down the chance to speak to West Brom, to stay with us?

Adams was a bit of a dinosaur really, the game just changed at a pace he couldn't or wasn't willing to keep up with

Johhny Blue · Mar 18, 2022

clint van damme said:
You serious? If so you're a fucking clown.

There’s an oxymoron waiting to happen

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Mar 18, 2022

Deleted member 5849 said:
His stock is high, though. If O'Neill jumped from Stoke, that would be an option - even West Brom if Bruce stuffs it up or doesn't fancy next season. If Bournemouth collapsed completely, his style of play would suit - if Wilder got offered a gig at one of the relegated clubs, Middlesbrough becomes available.

etc. etc.

None of those clubs are likely to come in for robins as he isn’t fashionable. All of those clubs - Bournemouth and West Brom especially are Billy big bollocks, and would be clamouring for a “bigger name”

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Mar 18, 2022

Warwickshire lad said:
If only one goes that will be a result. I expect 2 of 3 to be gone, and possibly manager and assistant manager.

Just like when O’Hare and Hamer were going last summer and we made shite signings like Gyokeres and Sheaf?

Robins knows the crack, he’ll know exactly what is happening next summer

KenilworthSkyBlue · Mar 18, 2022

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
None of those clubs are likely to come in for robins as he isn’t fashionable. All of those clubs - Bournemouth and West Brom especially are Billy big bollocks, and would be clamouring for a “bigger name”

Hmm not sure that's entirely true.

Sheffield United's appointment of Heckingbottom and West Brom's appointment of Ismael proves the bigger clubs don't necessarily go for a 'name' every time.

That being said once it doesn't work out they usually revert to the norm and pick a typical name from the managerial merry-go-round

Alkhen · Mar 18, 2022

FFS this thread is gross.

Gyok signed this season, doubt he'll go but if he does it'll be for serious money.

Both Hamer and O'Hare signed extensions so, again, we are in no real rush to sell and if we do it'll be for propper money.

SISU are a hedge fund here to make money, if they sell they will reinvest decent money to bring in replacements so the whole process can repeat.

Fecking hope we win on Saturday if only to shut the bedwetting babies up

Deleted member 5849 · Mar 18, 2022

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
None of those clubs are likely to come in for robins as he isn’t fashionable. All of those clubs - Bournemouth and West Brom especially are Billy big bollocks, and would be clamouring for a “bigger name”

But that's just it, he *is* fashionable at this level just atm.

slowpoke · Mar 18, 2022

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
None of those clubs are likely to come in for robins as he isn’t fashionable. All of those clubs - Bournemouth and West Brom especially are Billy big bollocks, and would be clamouring for a “bigger name”

If Bournemouth fail to get promotion they will be stuffed.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Mar 18, 2022

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Hmm not sure that's entirely true.

Sheffield United's appointment of Heckingbottom and West Brom's appointment of Ismael proves the bigger clubs don't necessarily go for a 'name' every time.

That being said once it doesn't work out they usually revert to the norm and pick a typical name from the managerial merry-go-round

Heckingbottom was an internal appointment, Ismael was a rare appointment but As you’ve said, as soon as that failed they reverted the the merry go round.

the only job robins has been considered for was Sunderland, he’s never in the running for any job in this league.

he doesn’t have a track record of success at this level. The likes of Farke and Wagner will likely be more considered by top sides and I doubt robins would leave us for the likes of say Preston, or Millwall who are likely the teams to take someone like Robins on

SkyBlueMatt · Mar 18, 2022

Christ we must have some of the most depressing fans in the country. I feel for your better halves.

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Barnsley · Mar 19, 2022

Grendel said:
barnsley lost £4 million in a year in the last published accounts. They are running a higher wage bill than us and Luton having increased the wage bill by around 30% - cash flow has improved as I assume they’ve took out the EFL loan - there is a loan taken out in the accounts which is around the same as the wage increase

I can’t see unless contracts cover a wage reduction how they are sustainable going forward if relegated

Well for starters this year we’ve got fans in the stadium, our highest paid player left and we got £2.2M for our head coach, plus we’ve got 3 decent players coming up to selling point, so that’ll cover it easily I would have thought.

Colin Steins Smile · Mar 20, 2022

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Heckingbottom was an internal appointment, Ismael was a rare appointment but As you’ve said, as soon as that failed they reverted the the merry go round.

the only job robins has been considered for was Sunderland, he’s never in the running for any job in this league.

he doesn’t have a track record of success at this level. The likes of Farke and Wagner will likely be more considered by top sides and I doubt robins would leave us for the likes of say Preston, or Millwall who are likely the teams to take someone like Robins on

The comparison with different managers is difficult, due to vastly different resources and working environments.
The benefit MR has had here is time in the role, along with a free hand to run the playing side without interference from board level. Albeit within the minimal resources he’s allowed.
If he was attracted to another job with better resources, he would have to consider how long he wants to keep working. As most clubs change managers quite often.
If a big pay day was on offer , he might leave if he felt it was his last job before retirement. Otherwise, unless he finds working here is impossible to progress.... he’s got a job for as long as he likes

SlowerThanPlatt · Mar 22, 2022

slowpoke said:
If Bournemouth fail to get promotion they will be stuffed.

They’re 6 points clear of third placed Luton with two games in hand, it’d have to be a monumental fuck up to not get promoted from here

Evo1883 · Mar 22, 2022

SkyBlueMatt said:
Christ we must have some of the most depressing fans in the country. I feel for your better halves.

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Doesn't represent the fans we speak to at the stadium or at away games does it mate .. much more depressing here , out of touch some would say

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