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Pusb1

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  • Jun 11, 2020
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What are the chances in the whole of next season being played behind closed doors? Pretty high i'd imagine- with even Premier League teams told to realistically expect a whole season without fans.

Fingers crossed we stay up! So at least we can at least see Championship football live.

do we think no fans could benefit the team? Make some of the larger stadiums we play at away from home seem less intimidating with no crowds?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #2
Pusb1 said:
What are the chances in the whole of next season being played behind closed doors? Pretty high i'd imagine- with even Premier League teams told to realistically expect a whole season without fans.

Fingers crossed we stay up! So at least we can at least see Championship football live.

do we think no fans could benefit the team? Make some of the larger stadiums we play at away from home seem less intimidating with no crowds?
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Seems crazy to think doesn’t it?
 

ccfcricoh

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #3
There is no way there will be a whole season BCD.

I am quietly optimistic that by October (maybe even the start of next season) grounds will have "some" fans in, that may be 20% etc, but some fans at least.

if pubs are rumoured to be opening soon, they are far more risky than a football stadium.
 
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stay_up_skyblues

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  • Jun 11, 2020
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I believe zoos and theme parks along with the seaside resorts are all planning to be open by the summer holidays. I wouldn’t be surprised if fans are allowed in (albeit perhaps at a reduced capacity) by the start of the new season.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #5
stay_up_skyblues said:
I believe zoos and theme parks along with the seaside resorts are all planning to be open by the summer holidays. I wouldn’t be surprised if fans are allowed in (albeit perhaps at a reduced capacity) by the start of the new season.
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Should be ok for 10000 in the 32000 ricoh bowl
 

Malaka

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #6
They are talking about a one meter distancing rule in September. TBF This could be done at St Andrews if they opened up the whole ground. Families would be together still, empty seat next to you both side and front and back. I don't think many more would come to St Andrews, they have made their choices, happy days for those of us with season tickets, we go.
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #7
Whilst it may be okay for a % of fans to go... It is going to be an ABSOLUTE PISSER to get in and out of grounds... Without even thinking of half time!
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #8
ccfcricoh said:
There is no way there will be a whole season BCD.

I am quietly optimistic that by October (maybe even the start of next season) grounds will have "some" fans in, that may be 20% etc, but some fans at least.

if pubs are rumoured to be opening soon, they are far more risky than a football stadium.
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whole season BCD and quite a few clubs would be in liquidation before spring
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #9
The virus will be long gone I think the way it’s just vanishing in some countries,I think we will be attending games before Xmas
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #10
Malaka said:
They are talking about a one meter distancing rule in September. TBF This could be done at St Andrews if they opened up the whole ground. Families would be together still, empty seat next to you both side and front and back. I don't think many more would come to St Andrews, they have made their choices, happy days for those of us with season tickets, we go.
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One meter will be way before September, probably by the end of this month
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Jun 11, 2020
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stay_up_skyblues said:
I believe zoos and theme parks along with the seaside resorts are all planning to be open by the summer holidays. I wouldn’t be surprised if fans are allowed in (albeit perhaps at a reduced capacity) by the start of the new season.
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Zoos are opening on Monday
 
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EalingSB

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #12
LaLiga president talking about potentially having fans as early as July; Hungarian Cup final had fans last week. UK behind those countries unfortunately but looks very likely that fans will be back in in some capacity before Christmas.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #13
Weeks ago on radio I heard an American expert say there will be no spectators at sports until Autumn 2021, at the time I thought load of bollox but as we have seen with the reversal of the return of schools we are far from over this pandemic. We are doing well to get football up and running on bcd, let’s see if that concludes.
 

stay_up_skyblues

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #14
mr_monkey said:
Zoos are opening on Monday
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Thanks for the inside info Mr Monkey ha.
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #15
Decent (if very American) video about why stadiums are particularly bad for spreading coronavirus.

Doesn't matter whether it's 1m, 2m or whatever, if coronavirus is still active in the UK and the government is still concerned about it spreading, there won't be fans in stadiums. It'll be crap given that I'm much more excited about the away days next year than the likelihood of us winning many games. Feels like a huge advance in contact tracing/testing or antibody immunity is our only hope.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #16
cc84cov said:
The virus will be long gone I think the way it’s just vanishing in some countries,I think we will be attending games before Xmas
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The virus will not be long gone. I believe the winter months will see it come back and although I do think some level of crowds will be in stadiums late summer/autumn I wouldn't be surprised to see bcd over winter
 
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mrtrench

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #17
Whilst far from ideal, there could be a benefit to all this.

IMO it's crazy that people in the UK cannot legally watch games live over the internet. It's only my opinion, but I think that the impact on live attendances would be small but the number of people subscribing could be large. TV is no replacement for a live game and subscribers to the streamed games would be fans who don't live within easy reach of the ground. It would hit away attendances - but home, I don't think it would be many lost.

Moreover, I think that they could increase the cost of watching online easily and still sell it well. If next season is behind closed doors they would almost certainly stream all games. If that succeeded we may find that they continue with it once the grounds open.
 

mrtrench

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #18
Skybluefaz said:
The virus will not be long gone. I believe the winter months will see it come back and although I do think some level of crowds will be in stadiums late summer/autumn I wouldn't be surprised to see bcd over winter
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I agree - it doesn't appear to like the heat and dies quite quickly in the open air when it's warm (so I've read). It'll love the cold winter months though and that's when I expect a second wave.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #19
Even at league 2 level crowds that bit of the Ricoh concourse where the toilets are opposite the food/drink outlet is a nightmare.
 

better days

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #20
Hopefully the Oxford vaccine is a success in its final trials
If so they think it will be available for September
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #21
better days said:
Hopefully the Oxford vaccine is a success in its final trials
If so they think it will be available for September
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Inject this into my veins. Literally.
 
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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #22
Personally, I think it's all a media over-reaction. There will be a vaccine by September 18th, everyone will have been injected and protected by Wednesday November 23rd and life will return to normal by Thursday November 24th at 14.26pm exactly. Just remember that you read it here first!
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #23
Fans will be back by October at latest imo. I have a feeling uefa may open champions league final to fans yet

Will depend on individual countries stats but Japan are opening up sports events to 50% capacity of buildings over next few weeks. I am sure many countries will do similar. And that's in door not outdoor too!
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #24
better days said:
Hopefully the Oxford vaccine is a success in its final trials
If so they think it will be available for September
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There has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus approved for use before. It's amazing they now think they can develop one and have it ready for millions of people within a few months. I wouldn't hold your breath...
 

jim20

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #25
mrtrench said:
Whilst far from ideal, there could be a benefit to all this.

IMO it's crazy that people in the UK cannot legally watch games live over the internet. It's only my opinion, but I think that the impact on live attendances would be small but the number of people subscribing could be large. TV is no replacement for a live game and subscribers to the streamed games would be fans who don't live within easy reach of the ground. It would hit away attendances - but home, I don't think it would be many lost.

Moreover, I think that they could increase the cost of watching online easily and still sell it well. If next season is behind closed doors they would almost certainly stream all games. If that succeeded we may find that they continue with it once the grounds open.
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I live 3.5 hours away, and every time we come up it costs well over £100, tickets, fuel, parking etc, with only the ticket money going to the club so I only come up a couple of times a season. The games I can I’ve watched on I follow, though the connections not always great. If they sorted out the issues I would probably stream most games and pay for each one. I’d still try and come up a couple of times a season, but the club would be making more direct revenue from me. I could imagine there’s hundreds of fans like me, who would be happy to stream the games and therefore increasing the clubs revenue
 
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Brylowes

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  • Jun 11, 2020
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ccfcricoh said:
if pubs are rumoured to be opening soon, they are far more risky than a football stadium.
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Why are Pubs held up as an example.
Why are Pubs deemed far more risky than Tesco’s etc
 

ccfcricoh

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #27
Brylowes said:
Why are Pubs held up as an example.
Why are Pubs deemed far more risky than Tesco’s etc
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I was only using it as an example because it appears they will be among the last "normal" things to open really.

My comparison then to football, was that they are more risky because they are inside, small spaces, more shared areas such as bars, use of glasses and tables and chairs etc

i agree though, i dont think they are massively more risky than say Tescos.

Trust me, i want pubs to open!
 
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matesx

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #28
Brylowes said:
Why are Pubs held up as an example.
Why are Pubs deemed far more risky than Tesco’s etc
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People get pissed in pubs, inhibitions and distancing rules will go out the window.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #29
matesx said:
People get pissed in pubs, inhibitions and distancing rules will go out the window.
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Took the words right out of my mouth, it must have been while you were kissing me. I fucking love you mate. Etc.
 
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Alex1987

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #30
Brylowes said:
Why are Pubs held up as an example.
Why are Pubs deemed far more risky than Tesco’s etc
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Probably because we all need feed from Supermarkets to survive! They aren't the safest but are a necessity.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #31
better days said:
Hopefully the Oxford vaccine is a success in its final trials
If so they think it will be available for September
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That’s not what they say, they think it could be six months before they’ve got results and then you’ve got manufacturing and distribution which is another 6-9 months.

Oxford COVID-19 vaccine to begin phase II/III human trials | University of Oxford

Next season won’t be saved by a vaccine.
 
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harvey098

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #32
I really think the whole of next season will be behind closed doors.
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #33
Interesting article in the New York times from a few days ago. Worth stating this is when they would be 'willing' to do it themselves, not when we will be allowed to. Either way, it's fairly grim reading.

When 511 Epidemiologists Expect to Fly, Hug and Do 18 Other Everyday Activities Again
 

mrtrench

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #34
skyblueelephant76 said:
There has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus approved for use before. It's amazing they now think they can develop one and have it ready for millions of people within a few months. I wouldn't hold your breath...
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Not entirely true. There has never been a HUMAN vaccine for a corona virus because they are generally mild and there was no need to develop one. There are some vaccines for animals. However, I do agree that a couple of months is unrealistic to go through rigorous testing. My wife used to work in clinical research and she says testing takes years and cannot be rushed.
 

mrtrench

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  • Jun 11, 2020
  • #35
jim20 said:
I live 3.5 hours away, and every time we come up it costs well over £100, tickets, fuel, parking etc, with only the ticket money going to the club so I only come up a couple of times a season. The games I can I’ve watched on I follow, though the connections not always great. If they sorted out the issues I would probably stream most games and pay for each one. I’d still try and come up a couple of times a season, but the club would be making more direct revenue from me. I could imagine there’s hundreds of fans like me, who would be happy to stream the games and therefore increasing the clubs revenue
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Me too - probably 2.5 to 3 hours to Brum and 2 to 2.5 to Cov. I'll go to local away games but I cannot commit to the expense and time of going to home games often - as you say, the ticket is only a fraction of the expense.
 
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