Why won't SISU invest ? (1 Viewer)

Voice_of_Reason · Apr 14, 2017

Instead of asking supporters to "invest" by purchasing Season Tickets at this year's prices (some increased too ! ) why won't SISU invest reciprocally?

It angers me that supporters are being asked to pay for historical mistakes made by SISU. Their mistakes - they pay for them.

clint van damme · Apr 14, 2017

same as we're all having to bail out the banks, must be a capitalist thing.

Deleted member 2477 · Apr 14, 2017

You can bet a bottom dollar that if we fail again next season and dont gain promotion or even worse Fisher will come out with some more crap blaiming lack of season ticket sales and fans not supporting the club as the reason. The simple fact is our owners have no intention of putting any money into the club and blame everyone but their selves for the clubs demise

We'll_live_and_die · Apr 14, 2017

I would guess at it being something to do with the several million they have already invested over their tenure.

stupot07 · Apr 14, 2017

I don't think ticket prices would be any cheaper if we were getting all the stadium revenues. They want to run us as a self sustainable model, so they would still be wanting to maximise ticket revenue.

They have 'invested' and lost £m's since they've been here and don't want to lose any more. Big problem is, its not their personal or business money, its other peoples that they would just poor down the drain.

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Voice_of_Reason · Apr 14, 2017

Rich said:
I would guess at it being something to do with the several million they have already invested over their tenure.

Several millions in legal costs maybe !

NortonSkyBlue · Apr 14, 2017

Voice_of_Reason said:
Instead of asking supporters to "invest" by purchasing Season Tickets at this year's prices (some increased too ! ) why won't SISU invest reciprocally?

It angers me that supporters are being asked to pay for historical mistakes made by SISU. Their mistakes - they pay for them.

VOR - whilst agreeing with every word, surely we have to invest in our club as the owners won't!?
It's one thing thinking they won't invest but it is another knowing they have said they won't invest!

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Rodders1 · Apr 14, 2017

I'm starting to think if this season we all buy a ST and effectively bankroll the club hopefully SISU will put that money back into the team. If they don't put it in the squad, then next season a complete boycott is needed.

Some might say we're already at that point now.

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 14, 2017

Rodders1 said:
I'm starting to think if this season we all buy a ST and effectively bankroll the club hopefully SISU will put that money back into the team. If they don't put it in the squad, then next season a complete boycott is needed.

Some might say we're already at that point now.

IMHO we were at that point on our relegation to L1.

bawtryneal · Apr 14, 2017

Because they have no money to invest.

Voice_of_Reason · Apr 14, 2017

riyadhskyblue said:
VOR - whilst agreeing with every word, surely we have to invest in our club as the owners won't!?
It's one thing thinking they won't invest but it is another knowing they have said they won't invest!

Can you trust SISU with our investment based on the last nine years of abject failure and promises not kept? I think not

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Apr 14, 2017

Simple answer is that they don't care about us. Fisher is the way he is because it's effectively "if you want a good team - you fund it"

SISU have cut us off, they won't sell us in my opinion because of our potential - it's a case of we don't want you to succeed if we don't.

they're not going to invest and will cut if we don't have enough coming in.

NortonSkyBlue · Apr 14, 2017

Voice_of_Reason said:
Can you trust SISU with our investment based on the last nine years of abject failure and promises not kept? I think not

What is the sensible alternative? NOPM just accelerates our death, the owners won't invest. This leaves it to us to keep the club going.

rupert_bear · Apr 14, 2017

I think you will find sisu financies as a business are substantially less than they were 9 /10 years ago when they acquired ccfc. Also obviously they can't attract investors or keep the ones they did initially attract.

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 14, 2017

Rodders1 said:
I'm starting to think if this season we all buy a ST and effectively bankroll the club hopefully SISU will put that money back into the team. If they don't put it in the squad, then next season a complete boycott is needed.

Some might say we're already at that point now.

No chance, if we sold out the ground we would still have a top eight budget as they are not interested in the football side of things, I would imagine a few extra invoices will be squeezed through to drag out a bit of extra cash.

If me not buying my season ticket forces them out fantastic if it doesn't then I haven't wasted my money again watching low standard footballers playing in division four.

robbiekeane · Apr 14, 2017

Surrounded by idiots

rupert_bear · Apr 14, 2017

I can't understand people, our fans don't seem to grasp sisu have no intention of ever investing in our football club so it becomes even a moderate success. The cost of a moderate championship club frightens sisu and Fisher to death, he Fisher just hasn't the nous or ability to do it.

hutch1972 · Apr 14, 2017

Sisu bought the club on the idea of making a huge profit over a year or 2.
Since they realised football is not an easy way of making money, and they know fuck all about running a club, it's simply been an exercise in self preservation.
It's become obvious for many years , they want us supporters to fund any risks , while they plunder anything that's made.

robbiekeane · Apr 14, 2017

rupert_bear said:
I can't understand people, our fans don't seem to grasp sisu have no intention of ever investing in our football club so it becomes even a moderate success. The cost of a moderate championship club frightens sisu and Fisher to death, he Fisher just hasn't the nous or ability to do it.

Are you actually retarded?

They've spunked absolutely millions on the club,they've just done it with gross incompetence so we have nothing to show for it.

Don't know why I bother · Apr 14, 2017

Agree with most points above. They just want the club to fund itself so they don't endure anymore losses. That way they can let their investment tick along and not worry about it. They will continue selling players off to make a bit of profit every year when they can. They are here for the long haul sadly

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 14, 2017

If it wasn't for the existence of Dale Winton, they'd invest.

Suffolk sky blues · Apr 14, 2017

It's the supporters fault sisu/Tim fisher are clueless at running football clubs.
I hate to get personal but joy needs to check her Christian believes.

CovBurty · Apr 14, 2017

Rodders1 said:
I'm starting to think if this season we all buy a ST and effectively bankroll the club hopefully SISU will put that money back into the team. If they don't put it in the squad, then next season a complete boycott is needed.

Some might say we're already at that point now.

I agree with you last chance saloon. if no promotion then complete boycott. Game over for Sisu and club. One more chance. One more season. Or else.

jjglory · Apr 14, 2017

SISU and puppet Timmy just do not give a shit.

torchomatic · Apr 14, 2017

CovBurty said:
I agree with you last chance saloon. if no promotion then complete boycott. Game over for Sisu and club. One more chance. One more season. Or else.

Asking for or thinking there will ever be a complete boycott is a fantasy. It will never happen.

hutch1972 · Apr 14, 2017

torchomatic said:
Asking for or thinking there will ever be a complete boycott is a fantasy. It will never happen.

Your right , there will never be a total boycott, but I will be amazed if we sell more than 2k for next season. (Under the current set up , that is)

torchomatic · Apr 14, 2017

hutch1972 said:
Your right , there will never be a total boycott, but I will be amazed if we sell more than 2k for next season. (Under the current set up , that is)

Maybe, but I think you'll be surprised. I think we'll end up with more than that.

chiefdave · Apr 14, 2017

They are a hedge fund. They invest on the basis that there will be a return on that investment. Of course some of those investments don't come off, to put it mildly, and some are high risk high reward.

Lets say SISU stuck £2m in. How are the getting a return on that?

NortonSkyBlue · Apr 14, 2017

chiefdave said:
They are a hedge fund. They invest on the basis that there will be a return on that investment. Of course some of those investments don't come off, to put it mildly, and some are high risk high reward.

Lets say SISU stuck £2m in. How are the getting a return on that?

By Coventry City storming through the leagues and the fans turning up in great numbers to see a great team.

dadgad · Apr 14, 2017

riyadhskyblue said:
What is the sensible alternative? NOPM just accelerates our death, the owners won't invest. This leaves it to us to keep the club going.

And your strategy is working so well.
Life support for a club that is being slowly killed by parasites. Genius.

chiefdave · Apr 14, 2017

riyadhskyblue said:
By Coventry City storming through the leagues and the fans turning up in great numbers to see a great team.

Portsmouth lost £.5m with huge crowds and over 11K season ticket holders.

hill83 · Apr 14, 2017

We should all be getting up there supporting our club and halting the slide down the leagues with our hard earned money. If we don't the team will suffer. Sisu have said they won't invest anymore. It's not rocket science.

But guess what. Most people have had enough under Sisu. So it won't happen. Down we go.

Some will return if we play well, some will return if Sisu correct a few mistakes, some will go regardless, some don't care about the owners but don't want to watch shit football. Etc etc etc.

It's as simple as that and doesn't really need continuous arguments about it week after week.

NortonSkyBlue · Apr 14, 2017

dadgad said:
And your strategy is working so well.
Life support for a club that is being slowly killed by parasites. Genius.

At least it's still breathing even with tools like you with your hands around it's throat.
See you when we are back on top, I'll recognize you once you ask for directions to the ground.

torchomatic · Apr 14, 2017

dadgad said:
And your strategy is working so well.
Life support for a club that is being slowly killed by parasites. Genius.

You've hated STH for years and have dreams of liquidation. I would continue to attend even if I didn't want to just to piss off fools like you.

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