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rob9872 · Dec 10, 2011

... is that City fans must hate players?

Some of you are embarrassing. Today I witnessed so much abuse against our own players it was disgusting. The same ones who normally moan at Hussey and Bell, today decided that Cameron and Murphy were to be the boo boys. I'm absolutely sick of it and these kind of people are putting me off continuing to attend as much as any board member or owner.

I accept we're shit. I don't like it any more than anyone else, but whilst I'm there I will give them a chance. I'm as frustrated as any fan that we're bottom of the league, I hate that I don't enjoy going to games any more, I hate our board/owners, I resent the fact that the ground is empty - it's all so frustrating but please stop having scape-goats, stop crucifying every mistake and vent your anger on those deserving of it.

Sure we get upset when someone makes a mistake, but be big enough to realise they never meant to and don't use it as an excuse to vilify everything else they thereafter.

stupot07 · Dec 10, 2011

rob9872 said:
... is that City fans must hate players?

Some of you are embarrassing. Today I witnessed so much abuse against our own players it was disgusting. The same ones who normally moan at Hussey and Bell, today decided that Cameron and Murphy were to be the boo boys. I'm absolutely sick of it and these kind of people are putting me off continuing to attend as much as any board member or owner.

I accept we're shit. I don't like it any more than anyone else, but whilst I'm there I will give them a chance. I'm as frustrated as any fan that we're bottom of the league, I hate that I don't enjoy going to games any more, I hate our board/owners, I resent the fact that the ground is empty - it's all so frustrating but please stop having scape-goats, stop crucifying every mistake and vent your anger on those deserving of it.

Sure we get upset when someone makes a mistake, but be big enough to realise they never meant to and don't use it as an excuse to vilify everything else they thereafter.

Hear hear....

wingy · Dec 10, 2011

Concur totally counter-productive.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · Dec 10, 2011

I agree rob. I think frustration is getting a grip on people. It could get really messy next March.

torchomatic · Dec 10, 2011

I'm surprised that the dolts gave McSheff the day off too today. Agree totally, BTW Rob.

City TSAR · Dec 10, 2011

Yes but some players like Murphy never learn after last weeks screw up. He almost did exactly the same 1st half when he should have cleared it but decided to play across 6 yard box to defender. You cannot accept that and if they are professionals - which they are - some of the players have to accept that responsibility and we have the right to our opinion.

Marty · Dec 10, 2011

Didn't really hear anything like that near me, there were a few idiots whinging over nothing but it was far from widespread, Have to agree though, some of our fans are right tools, espically those ones taking homes boxes of those flu packs.

rob9872 · Dec 10, 2011

City TSAR said:
Yes but some players like Murphy never learn after last weeks screw up. He almost did exactly the same 1st half when he should have cleared it but decided to play across 6 yard box to defender. You cannot accept that and if they are professionals - which they are - some of the players have to accept that responsibility and we have the right to our opinion.

Yes but in what way does abusing them help? Also the one you're referring to was on his wrong foot (and no a goalkeeper shouldn't be two footed even these days) it was after an awful over strebgth back-pass from Wood if you recall

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · Dec 10, 2011

I think the collective sigh is enough when a player makes a mistake they can hear it and they know they f*cked up. I don't think snarling at players like rabid dogs is going improve matters in anyway at this time when we are bottom of the league and being cut adrift.

Nonleagueherewecome · Dec 10, 2011

Marty said:
Didn't really hear anything like that near me, there were a few idiots whinging over nothing but it was far from widespread, Have to agree though, some of our fans are right tools, espically those ones taking homes boxes of those flu packs.

What the hell was that all about? It was like a frenzy. People were saying things like "I dunno what's in 'em, but they're free!" Crazy times...

Baker got a bit of grief for a misplaced pass today after he'd just done 3 good things immediately beforehand. That pretty much sums up most City fans mentality, really.

sw88 · Dec 10, 2011

I shouted at Murphy a few times, notibly when he scuffed a first half clear right accross his goal and Crainie wasnt certain of getting to it! This was out of frustration though (as he has been shit IMO all season).

I am all for supporting the players while they are playing though.

The one bloke who I did insist on shouting at was that bloody linesman who pulled a muscle just before we could take a quick throw in (although if we had taken it quick, it would probably ended up back with Murphy a short time after, even though we were basically on the touch line!).

Again, this was out of frustration as I felt he'd robbed us of an advantage, and to make matters worse, he then shook the hand of their number 3 (I think it was) which made it more suss for me that he wasnt actually injured!! I did see him late on standing / walking within the dug out areas so his leg / muscle couldnt have been that injured :thinking about:

Poor bloke was knackered, and had me shouting ':jerkit: :jerkit: :jerkit:' at him .

I know I read too much into it but I just needed to take my anger out on someone (and it was 0-0 at this time. God help him if he went off after they scored )

sw88 · Dec 10, 2011

Marty said:
espically those ones taking homes boxes of those flu packs.

Only in Coventry could this happen :claping hands:

Jack Griffin · Dec 10, 2011

Didn't the Nazis conduct mass medical experiments too?

cloughie · Dec 10, 2011

rob9872 said:
... is that City fans must hate players?

Some of you are embarrassing. Today I witnessed so much abuse against our own players it was disgusting. The same ones who normally moan at Hussey and Bell, today decided that Cameron and Murphy were to be the boo boys. I'm absolutely sick of it and these kind of people are putting me off continuing to attend as much as any board member or owner.

I accept we're shit. I don't like it any more than anyone else, but whilst I'm there I will give them a chance. I'm as frustrated as any fan that we're bottom of the league, I hate that I don't enjoy going to games any more, I hate our board/owners, I resent the fact that the ground is empty - it's all so frustrating but please stop having scape-goats, stop crucifying every mistake and vent your anger on those deserving of it.

Sure we get upset when someone makes a mistake, but be big enough to realise they never meant to and don't use it as an excuse to vilify everything else they thereafter.

agreed but if they piss you off so bad just move seats there are plenty to choose from

thankfully there are more supporters than tossers................i hope

ajsccfc · Dec 10, 2011

It seems there has to be at least one focus of attack for the morons. It's bad that it gets to a point where the player doesn't even get credit for doing well, more a 'well he should be doing that every game' instead. Hussey can't enjoy playing for us.

WestEndAgro · Dec 10, 2011

Good post Rob
I couldn't agree more, it makes me cringe when players get singled out by our own support, I for one will never boo, jeer or rant at anyone wearing Sky Blue PUSB

wingy · Dec 10, 2011

Jack Griffin said:
Didn't the Nazis conduct mass medical experiments too?

Finally the link is established SISU =NAZI'S

Houchens Head · Dec 10, 2011

Sorry. I don't agree with Rob at all. Although I can't get to matches due to finances and distance, if I could be there I would be giving the players a lot of grief! How dare they wear the shirt of Sky Blue and play like they do? They are on £1,000's a week and couldn't give two fucks about the club. To them it's just a job and they don't do it very well! Before I was forced to retire I earned £22,000 a year. These arseholes are on 10-15 times that! If I didn't do my job well enough, I would expect to get a bollocking! So I'm sorry Rob and everyone else who supports your sentiments. Bollock the team! Give them stick! Because Andy Thorn sure as fuck isn't! And that's costing us dear!

Macca · Dec 10, 2011

rob9872 said:
... is that City fans must hate players?

Some of you are embarrassing. Today I witnessed so much abuse against our own players it was disgusting. The same ones who normally moan at Hussey and Bell, today decided that Cameron and Murphy were to be the boo boys. I'm absolutely sick of it and these kind of people are putting me off continuing to attend as much as any board member or owner.

I accept we're shit. I don't like it any more than anyone else, but whilst I'm there I will give them a chance. I'm as frustrated as any fan that we're bottom of the league, I hate that I don't enjoy going to games any more, I hate our board/owners, I resent the fact that the ground is empty - it's all so frustrating but please stop having scape-goats, stop crucifying every mistake and vent your anger on those deserving of it.

Sure we get upset when someone makes a mistake, but be big enough to realise they never meant to and don't use it as an excuse to vilify everything else they thereafter.

don t know, same reason as minorities at all clubs i guess. I mean footy matches are hardly mensa meetings are they. Its not a uniquely cov problem

ajsccfc · Dec 10, 2011

Houchens Head said:
Sorry. I don't agree with Rob at all. Although I can't get to matches due to finances and distance, if I could be there I would be giving the players a lot of grief! How dare they wear the shirt of Sky Blue and play like they do? They are on £1,000's a week and couldn't give two fucks about the club. To them it's just a job and they don't do it very well! Before I was forced to retire I earned £22,000 a year. These arseholes are on 10-15 times that! If I didn't do my job well enough, I would expect to get a bollocking! So I'm sorry Rob and everyone else who supports your sentiments. Bollock the team! Give them stick! Because Andy Thorn sure as fuck isn't! And that's costing us dear!

Were you regularly abused and heckled whilst doing your job?

Houchens Head · Dec 10, 2011

ajsccfc said:
Were you regularly abused and heckled whilst doing your job?

No I wasn't because I did a bloody good days work and felt proud at the end of each day that I had earned my crust!!!

ajsccfc · Dec 10, 2011

So then it's not really that comparable.

Macca · Dec 10, 2011

It is fair to say the game has gone soft. We always used to give the players stick. Though it wasn t done with real venom

Houchens Head · Dec 10, 2011

ajsccfc said:
So then it's not really that comparable.

Comparable with what?????

ajsccfc · Dec 10, 2011

Your job is not really comparable with that of a footballer, the circumstances are a world apart. If you think players deserve shouting at that's fine, but it doesn't need to be justified by the fact that you were good at whatever you did.

Houchens Head · Dec 10, 2011

ajsccfc said:
Your job is not really comparable with that of a footballer, the circumstances are a world apart. If you think players deserve shouting at that's fine, but it doesn't need to be justified by the fact that you were good at whatever you did.

What utter bollocks!!! A professional footballer is just that! A PROFESSIONAL!!! He EARNS his salary like any other job! If he doesn't do the job he is PAID TO DO then give him a bollocking!! What planet are you on?

Macca · Dec 10, 2011

At least you can move seats as many times as you like if someone is annoying you

Macca · Dec 10, 2011

Houchens Head said:
What utter bollocks!!! A professional footballer is just that! A PROFESSIONAL!!! He EARNS his salary like any other job! If he doesn't do the job he is PAID TO DO then give him a bollocking!! What planet are you on?

but they are sensitive little souls

Houchens Head · Dec 10, 2011

Macca said:
but they are sensitive little souls

Ahhh! Fuckin bless!

ajsccfc · Dec 10, 2011

Houchens Head said:
What utter bollocks!!! A professional footballer is just that! A PROFESSIONAL!!! He EARNS his salary like any other job! If he doesn't do the job he is PAID TO DO then give him a bollocking!! What planet are you on?

Thanks for completely missing my point there. At your job you had a management structure right? So does football. Andy Thorn talking about how terrific and unlucky they were in public doesn't mean they're getting high-fives and 'jolly good show lads' in the dressing room.

You can shout at players all you like, but don't pretend you're doing some kind of job-related service.

shmmeee · Dec 10, 2011

I never boo and would only shout at a player who is blatantly not trying as opposed to making a mistake or having a bad game. McSheffrey today for example needed a rocket up his arse. The team he supposedly supports is going down the shitter and he couldn't give a fuck.

Houchens Head · Dec 11, 2011

Exactly what I'm saying! No-one on the team gives a fuck!

Nonleagueherewecome · Dec 11, 2011

ajsccfc said:
Thanks for completely missing my point there. At your job you had a management structure right? So does football. Andy Thorn talking about how terrific and unlucky they were in public doesn't mean they're getting high-fives and 'jolly good show lads' in the dressing room.

You can shout at players all you like, but don't pretend you're doing some kind of job-related service.

Finally, someone who appreciates that what the manager says to the public certainly isn't what he says to the players. It's been a while! :wave:

DazzleTommyDazzle · Dec 11, 2011

Houchens Head said:
Sorry. I don't agree with Rob at all. Although I can't get to matches due to finances and distance, if I could be there I would be giving the players a lot of grief! How dare they wear the shirt of Sky Blue and play like they do? They are on £1,000's a week and couldn't give two fucks about the club. To them it's just a job and they don't do it very well! Before I was forced to retire I earned £22,000 a year. These arseholes are on 10-15 times that! If I didn't do my job well enough, I would expect to get a bollocking! So I'm sorry Rob and everyone else who supports your sentiments. Bollock the team! Give them stick! Because Andy Thorn sure as fuck isn't! And that's costing us dear!

I suppose those of us that think that abusing players who already lack confidence is (let me put this gently) a bit dumb, should just be grateful for the finances and distance.

Otis · Dec 11, 2011

Nonleagueherewecome said:
Finally, someone who appreciates that what the manager says to the public certainly isn't what he says to the players. It's been a while! :wave:

Agree, but also disagree to a point.

Absolutely fine for us to play really poorly and for the manager to say "We worked hard and it didn't just come off for us." Totally not fine for him to say "We played really well and were very unlucky."

This is the problem people have with Thorn. If you are 'bad' you don't say 'excellent.' There is a whole spectrum of words between bad and excellent you can use that would be more than acceptable. Some words bend the truth a little and allow for artistic creation, some words are just pure lies and make you sound like you are on a different planet.

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