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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #176
Astute said:
You are mistaken as usual. We were a Prem side until 2001. We are now Division 3. Or did we drop two divisions in one go and ignore the other relegation?
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Lock, Stock and both smoking barrels BOOM Grendel he got you good this time:laugh:
 

Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #177
letsallsingtogether said:
Lock, Stock and both smoking barrels BOOM Grendel he got you good this time:laugh:
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Is this the good news we've been waiting for?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #178
:thinking about:Give me ten years I'll get back to you.


dongonzalos said:
Yes it seems you are mistaken.
In the last 15 years we have had two relegations
We have won no competition that we have competed in.
A semi final in the JPT been the closest to success.
Culminating in last season in which we finished in our lowest league position over the 15 years.
We have suffered points deductions
A move 35 miles away.

Maybe I'm the one whose mistaken and the last 15 years have actually been a steady progression?

I will make it easier for you

Name any club who have had consistent stagnation and decline for 10 years and their crowds increased or stayed the same.
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #179
dongonzalos said:
Yes it seems you are mistaken.
In the last 15 years we have had two relegations
We have won no competition that we have competed in.
A semi final in the JPT been the closest to success.
Culminating in last season in which we finished in our lowest league position over the 15 years.
We have suffered points deductions
A move 35 miles away.

Maybe I'm the one whose mistaken and the last 15 years have actually been a steady progression?

I will make it easier for you

Name any club who have had consistent stagnation and decline for 10 years and their crowds increased or stayed the same.
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Do Manure count as they stagnated at the top of the prem nearly every season?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #180
letsallsingtogether said:
:thinking about:Give me ten years I'll get back to you.
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Isn't that the same as three weeks?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #181
dongonzalos said:
Yes it seems you are mistaken.
In the last 15 years we have had two relegations
We have won no competition that we have competed in.
A semi final in the JPT been the closest to success.
Culminating in last season in which we finished in our lowest league position over the 15 years.
We have suffered points deductions
A move 35 miles away.

Maybe I'm the one whose mistaken and the last 15 years have actually been a steady progression?

I will make it easier for you

Name any club who have had consistent stagnation and decline for 10 years and their crowds increased or stayed the same.
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Or name one club who have been at the top of their division had a good Cup run or promoted who's attendances never increased?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #182
It is on here.
Astute said:
Isn't that the same as three weeks?
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #183
letsallsingtogether said:
Or name one club who have been at the top of their division had a good Cup run or promoted who's attendances never increased?
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We had a good cup run in the JPT but attendances didn't particularly increase in the league.


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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #184
But did they increase that is the question?
Doesn't matter if it is only 1 0r 1000 they will increase FACT
stupot07 said:
We had a good cup run in the JPT but attendances didn't particularly increase in the league.


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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #185
Grendel said:
From a revenue perspective attendance at away games is not relevant. 90% of fans don't go to away games. 90% of our fans just do not go to games.
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It's a good job really I mean how the hell would we have got all 270,000 of them at the Ricoh for the Gillingham game?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #186
stupot07 said:
Woe is me, let me reach for the razor blades right now.


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The woe is me is the people moaning about attendances
I am just pointing out it is perfectly normal. I actually think we have a good turn out from the hardcore.
If the product improves the Ricoh could be packed.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #187
dongonzalos said:
The woe is me is the people moaning about attendances
I am just pointing out it is perfectly normal. I actually think we have a good turn out from the hardcore.
If the product improves the Ricoh could be packed.
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Of course it won't all City fans are shit in their eyes, really makes me mad that they believe this is only a CCFC thing they need to open their eyes and see the truth not what they want to see.
They also believe that £22.00 or £24.00 on the day is good value for what we saw on Saturday.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #188
letsallsingtogether said:
Of course it won't all City fans are shit in their eyes, really makes me mad that they believe this is only a CCFC thing they need to open their eyes and see the truth not what they want to see.
They also believe that £22.00 or £24.00 on the day is good value for what we saw on Saturday.
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By the sound of it I would have felt robbed if I would have been let into the Preston game for free.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2014
  • #189
I was robbed and only paid £17.00 due to the Ticket bundle we got.


Astute said:
By the sound of it I would have felt robbed if I would have been let into the Preston game for free.
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 30, 2014
  • #190
There was warm applause at half-time in Coventry's home defeat by Doncaster, the match that sealed City's relegation to the third tier of English football for the first time since 1964.

But it was for the appearance on the pitch of the Sky Blues' 1987 FA Cup-winning squad, and it came in sharp contrast to the boos that moments before had rung round the Ricoh Arena at the end of a first half bereft of ideas or energy.
Coventry's decline over the 25 years since Keith Houchen's spectacular diving header helped them to a 3-2 extra-time win over Spurs at Wembley has been a steady one.
Since they were relegated from the Premier League in 2001, after 34 seasons in the top flight, the Sky Blues have never seriously threatened to bounce back - in fact, the team has not finished in the top six of any division since 1969-70. Tellingly, they are on their 10th manager in 11 years.

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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 30, 2014
  • #191
BBC seem to think we have been in gradual decline as well
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 30, 2014
  • #192
Looks pretty consistent from 02/03
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 30, 2014
  • #193
You haven't got the last few years on there
There is certainly a consistency over the last 15 years
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 30, 2014
  • #194
I used to go to the match with a group of about 21-22 lads. We used to fill a mini-bus to away games. Now we're lucky if four of us meet up in the pub before a home game. For a lot of home games now I just drive down on my own!

But the club don't give a fuck. They don't care about losing mates of mine and family members who've fallen away in recent years and they won't care when I fall away too.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 30, 2014
  • #195
Our crowds are still crap. And some of that decline has been because of the lack of fans and therefore lack of funding going into the club. It's a 2 way street, club on decline = less fans = less revenue = less money to spend = lower quality squad = worse performances = less fans = less revenue = etc.

Us as fans have to take a portion of the blame. And I don't give 2 hoots about the decline 27k to 10k in 2 weeks is a disgrace.


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Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #196
It really is pointless arguing about attendances. Attendances are like a democratic election except people vote with their feet. Each person who goes made an individual decision to go and each person who might go but does not go made a personal decision not to go. No-one has any right to question how or why someone votes. What we can say is if performances improve, crowds will go up and if we gain promotion, crowds will go up. The reverse is also true.
 

Mr T - Sukka!

Active Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #197
We have about the 4th highest average home attendence in the leauge.

We will also move up as it also takes in the fact we were in Northampton to start the season.

For those moaning, welcome to leauge 1. If you are unhappy direct it at SISU they put us here with awful decsions.
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #198
stupot07 said:
Our crowds are still crap. And some of that decline has been because of the lack of fans and therefore lack of funding going into the club. It's a 2 way street, club on decline = less fans = less revenue = less money to spend = lower quality squad = worse performances = less fans = less revenue = etc.

Us as fans have to take a portion of the blame
. And I don't give 2 hoots about the decline 27k to 10k in 2 weeks is a disgrace.


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Is this for real?
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #199
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I used to go to the match with a group of about 21-22 lads. We used to fill a mini-bus to away games. Now we're lucky if four of us meet up in the pub before a home game. For a lot of home games now I just drive down on my own!

But the club don't give a fuck. They don't care about losing mates of mine and family members who've fallen away in recent years and they won't care when I fall away too.
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Trouble is this situation above is not an isolated incident and you think how many trips like this even to home games and how any groups of around 20 now either don't exist or have like 2 or 3 left. I was part of a group myself of about 8 and although not as big as 20 none of us go anymore together we all go just to odd games as and when we can really.

Its sad and to blame us like someone makes me a little mad as its therefore our fault we have had bad owners and players. Its the shit owners and awful players over the last 15 years who have driven fans away not the other way around.
 

jimmyhill

Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #200
This is similar to me, trying to cut a long story short.
Started with my dad, great experiences...
Go up with mates on a Saturday after a few in the Devon/Grange.
Go up with mates incurring the wrath of wife.
Season ticket with a couple of friends and later friends and kids...
Last 3 seasons no season ticket, my son has not been interested since he was 16 and it was difficult to give my tickets away even though they were on the halfway line.
The bottom line, I would have considered myself a 'diehard' up to 3 years ago. I would have a great time going up with friends and family. Now... I sadly would be a lonely and selfish man indulging in a pastime that friends and family had long since given up.
There is no excitement or anticipation of what the new season may bring and this is what worries me. People of my generation are losing the bug and the teens are not interested in Coventry City.

Dirge over.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #201
The whole experience of attending football has changed in many ways but for most of us it's mainly down to getting older. Those mates of old have drifted away, found other interests, moved away with work, became bogged down with partners and children, can't justify spending on football etc.
The worrying trend is the apparent lack of interest from many of the younger generations but then these youngsters have so much else to do in life compared to say the 70's or 80's or even 90's.
Believe me, when your family home had no central heating, no home phone, 1 small TV in the corner dominated by your father with 4 channels on it, no computer, no computer games etc you couldn't wait to go out and see your mates and do other stuff. These days { my kids included} have a life of luxury by comparison and through various pieces of technology they don't have to leave their cosy bedrooms to hook up with friends !
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #202
Ashdown said:
The whole experience of attending football has changed in many ways but for most of us it's mainly down to getting older. Those mates of old have drifted away, found other interests, moved away with work, became bogged down with partners and children, can't justify spending on football etc.
The worrying trend is the apparent lack of interest from many of the younger generations but then these youngsters have so much else to do in life compared to say the 70's or 80's or even 90's.
Believe me, when your family home had no central heating, no home phone, 1 small TV in the corner dominated by your father with 4 channels on it, no computer, no computer games etc you couldn't wait to go out and see your mates and do other stuff. These days { my kids included} have a life of luxury by comparison and through various pieces of technology they don't have to leave their cosy bedrooms to hook up with friends !
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Some very good points there.

When we were young there wasn't much on TV and if we weren't going out to a football match, we were out playing football with our mates. We used to go out and play football just about every single day.

What is needed now I feel is a match day experience, akin to what they do in the US. Don't make it just about the game, make the day an occasion.

If you go into most stadiums in the US there is so much going on. I recall going to a baseball game in Denver and was amazed at all the stuff they had in the malls inside the stadium, shops, restaurants, bars, games, video game machines, baseball pitching machines etc. etc.

The stadium was about 3/4 full, but inside the malls, it was chock a block, even when the game was going on. Whole families attending and maybe the dad and son watching the actual game and younger siblings and mums and sisters inside the mall in a restaurant or shop.

A match day experience.

If we need to keep fans going up and interested I think there needs to be a change in thinking. I think more covered, bowl stadiums may be a way to go too. For a winter game you come out of your warm house, out into the cold only to then sit in a cold stadium for 2 hours.
 
Last edited: Oct 1, 2014
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #203
Yes, I agree with you Otis, we already do this to a degree as a family. Our visits to the Ricoh invariably include a bit of prematch social which usually involves a meal and a few beers with friends. Trouble is this whole experience then pushes the price of the day right up. Have to say though on many occasions we have come away from the football and said we 'Should have stayed in the pub and missed the game'.
 

jimmyhill

Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #204
My son is 19 and ironically has just started uni in Northampton. He is interested in football and other sports, the lure of a live event can still be compelling, but without some kind of hook there is nothing to draw him back. I have lots of good memories. The best I can think of during his time are the last game at Highfield Road and the first game at the Ricoh
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #205
Ashdown said:
Yes, I agree with you Otis, we already do this to a degree as a family. Our visits to the Ricoh invariably include a bit of prematch social which usually involves a meal and a few beers with friends. Trouble is this whole experience then pushes the price of the day right up. Have to say though on many occasions we have come away from the football and said we 'Should have stayed in the pub and missed the game'.
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But at least if there is otther stuff going on and the match is shit, you can still have the opportunity to enjoy the day.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #206
jimmyhill said:
My son is 19 and ironically has just started uni in Northampton. He is interested in football and other sports, the lure of a live event can still be compelling, but without some kind of hook there is nothing to draw him back. I have lots of good memories. The best I can think of during his time are the last game at Highfield Road and the first game at the Ricoh
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Man Utd away, League Cup 2 nil win !! ?
 

jimmyhill

Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #207
Unfortunately not at the Ricoh!
 

jimmyhill

Member
  • Oct 1, 2014
  • #208
Remember this was at a time when the top teams thought the Carling cup was Mickey Mouse. We're now arguing about what a great crowd puller the Johnsons paint trophy should be... Frightening!
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 4, 2014
  • #209
Leeds crowd
Point proven
 
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