How long should the council, acl, higgs trust, wasps etc be messed around, sued, lied to by our owners. I think we all know once sisu have washed there hands with our club and gone, it will be these entities along with new owners who will pick up the pieces.
They should have held on for as long as it took for SISU to go. They cut the club loose out of spite. Wasps, ACL, Higgs and the Council will have nothing to do with picking up the pieces as they helped smash the club along with SISU.
For some, it always is.Is it april fools
This is a fair observation.Never heard you mention this before.
Yes they should. But.....They should have held on for as long as it took for SISU to go. They cut the club loose out of spite. Wasps, ACL, Higgs and the Council will have nothing to do with picking up the pieces as they helped smash the club along with SISU.
Yes they should. But.....
SISU are hanging around and there is no ground for them to get. How much longer do you think that they would hang about if there was a ground?
So basically then why would anyone own a football club unless it's a bloody rich bloke looking for a hobby?
If we owned the Ricoh or another ground then SISU would be gone a lot sooner as we'd be more attractive to potential investors. At the moment we have virtually nothing, so what incentive is there for a new owner. In my opinion SISU will be here for many more years.
Well that kind of thinking is why we are in this kind of mess as sisu thought the same. I guess you want them all to bend over take it from sisu and then say thank you for privilege. Take your tinted glasses off and join the real world.They should have held on for as long as it took for SISU to go. They cut the club loose out of spite. Wasps, ACL, Higgs and the Council will have nothing to do with picking up the pieces as they helped smash the club along with SISU.
Well that kind of thinking is why we are in this kind of mess as sisu thought the same. I guess you want them all to bend over take it from sisu and then say thank you for privilege. Take your tinted glasses off and join the real world.
And maybe it will in the future when ownership changes. But currently we have owners who have spent the last few years attempting to destroy the club and anything connected to it.No, anything done should have very strict caveats in place that it benefits CCFC.
And maybe it will in the future when ownership changes. But currently we have owners who have spent the last few years attempting to destroy the club and anything connected to it.
Its like when your daughter who has a terrible boyfriend you can't help them sooner or later you have to let them go and figure it out for themselves and pick up the pieces when it's over. (Best analogy I can think of).
No your right you would let him trash your house you let him live in, then say don't worry about it and keep the car you pay the finance on aswell. Then say thanks mate your a star.It's nothing at all like it, because I wouldn't harm my daughter to try and get at her boyfriend.
No your right you would let him trash your house you let him live in, then say don't worry about it and keep the car you pay the finance on aswell. Then say thanks mate your a star.
They should have held on for as long as it took for SISU to go. They cut the club loose out of spite. Wasps, ACL, Higgs and the Council will have nothing to do with picking up the pieces as they helped smash the club along with SISU.
Or the fact that the club told them they were building a new training ground, academy and stadium. Which unless you are deluded you will know it's all lies.
So howNo, because my daughter would be CCFC and the boyfriend SISU.
Using your analogy, the council / wasps etc are giving the daughter jabs here and there thinking it will hurt SISU rather than dragging SISU (the boyfriend) directly round the back and beating 10 shades of shit out of them.
If it was a house i paid for for my daughter (ccfc) then I'd have strict rules about who lives there also, so her boyfriend could never take the house from my daughter.
Next one?
So if it's so easy what should the council etc have done?No, because my daughter would be CCFC and the boyfriend SISU.
Using your analogy, the council / wasps etc are giving the daughter jabs here and there thinking it will hurt SISU rather than dragging SISU (the boyfriend) directly round the back and beating 10 shades of shit out of them.
If it was a house i paid for for my daughter (ccfc) then I'd have strict rules about who lives there also, so her boyfriend could never take the house from my daughter.
I also wouldn't shout about her boyfriend hurting her and then cosy up to a lad who plays rugby and then join in giving her a slap or 2 whilst berating her ex for it. IT would be different though as he pays for my beers on a Saturday.
Next one?
So how
So if it's so easy what should the council etc have done?
Seeing as handing over the keys to the stadium would have ended in it in a subsidiary company of sisu's just like the training ground did and held as collateral against the debt we owe to them.
And you really think sisu would have been interested in something like that? I doubt it very much. But if that's what you believe then fair enough, it's a nice thought.It would be setup in a trust or something separate so it would only benefit CCFC. I'm no lawyer, but I'd make sure it was only possible for it to benefit CCFC and no owners.
Isn't Otium CCFC?.... Just thinking like.It would be setup in a trust or something separate so it would only benefit CCFC. I'm no lawyer, but I'd make sure it was only possible for it to benefit CCFC and no owners.
Isn't Otium CCFC?.... Just thinking like.
And you really think sisu would have been interested in something like that? I doubt it very much. But if that's what you believe then fair enough, it's a nice thought.
That wasn't a sarcastic "nice thought" it was honest, if they could have sold the stadium and some how protected it, then great. I just think that sisu would have never excepted that, so it is a non starter in my opinion.So you give an awful analogy and I correct it for you and show you how it doesn't work and it's a "nice thought".
Since then, Wasps have openly said that the rugby club is just a side interest now haven't they and want to get into property?
Simplest way would have been to hand it to the trust.
Every ST holder automatically becomes member of the trust.
Club then free to utilise /maximise income from operating the venue.
They should have held on for as long as it took for SISU to go. They cut the club loose out of spite. Wasps, ACL, Higgs and the Council will have nothing to do with picking up the pieces as they helped smash the club along with SISU.
Make your mind up Torch. Either CCC should have kept hold of it until SISU had gone or SISU should have got itIf we owned the Ricoh or another ground then SISU would be gone a lot sooner as we'd be more attractive to potential investors. At the moment we have virtually nothing, so what incentive is there for a new owner. In my opinion SISU will be here for many more years.
Make your mind up Torch. Either CCC should have kept hold of it until SISU had gone or SISU should have got it
I would tell my daughter to get rid of him and find someone who isn't a bullshitter and only cares about money.No, because my daughter would be CCFC and the boyfriend SISU.
I would tell my daughter to get rid of him and find someone who isn't a bullshitter and only cares about money.
But SISU weren't going anywhere, the council obviously needed a sustainable futureWell either. Ideally (for me), SISU would have purchased the lease of the stadium as Wasps have; I feel we would have been much more attractive to any potential investor. Failing that, the Council should have held their nerve and waited until SISU had gone, which they will one day. However, due to their spite they didn't wait and the rest, as they say, is history.
But you know that it wasn't spite. CCC were forced into a corner. SISU wouldn't take on the loan. They wouldn't even discuss the matter. And they couldn't just wipe the loan out.Well either. Ideally (for me), SISU would have purchased the lease of the stadium as Wasps have; I feel we would have been much more attractive to any potential investor. Failing that, the Council should have held their nerve and waited until SISU had gone, which they will one day. However, due to their spite they didn't wait and the rest, as they say, is history.
I would just tell him to take her to Northampton and save the bullshit. Would give me more peace.Unless he said he was going to build a new house for them both. That would have been one statement everyone would have believed.
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