The issue is not Willis leaving, nor Stevenson et al it's the fact that the money isn't reinvested in the playing squad ... it's now targeted at making CCFC a profitable business.
Because no investment = worse on-pitch performance = no hope or reason to continue going.
The club is being strangled due to a lack of product on the pitch. As much as I'd like to think we could find a model whereby we can put a competitive team together on a shoestring, all studies show that it just doesn't happen.
So basically then why would anyone own a football club unless it's a bloody rich bloke looking for a hobby?
So basically then why would anyone own a football club unless it's a bloody rich bloke looking for a hobby?
I think the key is to sell players at the right time (not too early) and to reinvest some of the money into decent replacements.This is where the SISU OUT! Concept fails. We don't just need new owners we need mega rich owners, otherwise we'd have to sell players to survive and apparently no other club apart from CCFC do that.
This is where the SISU OUT! Concept fails. We don't just need new owners we need mega rich owners, otherwise we'd have to sell players to survive and apparently no other club apart from CCFC do that.
Are you trying to have a laugh?That's it, we don't have bad owners.
That's it, we don't have bad owners. In my mind we have owners who've invested a staggering sum and no longer want to put anything else in. If we were to drop into league 2, become sustainable and build from there would it be a big problem?
If we keep this academy churning out a few decent players each year we could become a very big fish in that league.
Are you trying to have a laugh?
Or do you have a punchline you are waiting with on how much worse than bad they are?
They are not bad owners because they took us to Northampton.If this was a normal business they would've shut it down along time ago.
Maybe they are bad owners for not making the sensible choice and closing the club down?
One problem, there won't be a academy to churn out the players in the near future. Due to the antics of our owners.......
Are you saying we could become a very big fish in league 2? You've got to have aspirations haven't you? I don't mind the business model to be fair. The thing is SISU are in such a hole with the fans that it's difficult to see them enticing fans back to get money in to generate better budgets for the manager and a general better environment for success. Also if we stand to make a profit this year, why are we selling Stevenson in January? It's a bad football and financial decision when his value will grow with time.That's it, we don't have bad owners. In my mind we have owners who've invested a staggering sum and no longer want to put anything else in. If we were to drop into league 2, become sustainable and build from there would it be a big problem?
If we keep this academy churning out a few decent players each year we could become a very big fish in that league.
Or the fact that the club told them they were building a new training ground, academy and stadium. Which unless you are deluded you will know it's all lies.Or alternatively, it was out of spite by pwkh. In my opinion of course. Would Derek higgs have inserted such a clause?
Or the fact that the club told them they were building a new training ground, academy and stadium. Which unless you are deluded you will know it's all lies.
He still has to protect his asset, if the club still maintains its building these facilities then he can't be left with a empty building. Weather he believes them or not, they have to take the threat seriously.Well unless you are insinuating pwkh is deluded. Then surely he would have known it was lies too? That the club had nowhere to go. That at some point, hopefully sooner rather than later, sisu won't be here. That the academy is vital to the club. So do you think Derek higgs would have inserted the same clause?
They are not bad owners because they took us to Northampton.
They are not bad owners because they refused to negotiate on the Ricoh and lost us our ground.
They are not bad owners because they prefer legal action that they will not win than anything else.
They are not bad owners because they blame everyone else for what has gone wrong....including their customers.
They are not bad owners as they don't have a clue on how to run a football club.
They are not bad owners as they keep bullshitting and just about everyone can see it.
OK. You are right. They are not bad owners :shifty:
Anyone who has had dealings with PWKH may potentially have a different, far less charitable view.He still has to protect his asset, if the club still maintains its building these facilities then he can't be left with a empty building. Weather he believes them or not, they have to take the threat seriously.
How long should the council, acl, higgs trust, wasps etc be messed around, sued, lied to by our owners. I think we all know once sisu have washed there hands with our club and gone, it will be these entities along with new owners who will pick up the pieces.
If this was a normal business they would've shut it down along time ago.
Maybe they are bad owners for not making the sensible choice and closing the club down?
And that is a big part of our problem IMO, anyone purchasing a football club With the sole intentionBit of investment. Promotion to the premier league and it's megabucks. Then sell.
Obviously that didn't work for Sisu.
I gave SISU a lot of slack early on. I could see what they were trying to do, from Ranson's plan through to distressing ACL, and even though their methods were questionable they would have benefitted CCFC in the long term - so I wasn't too bothered if the shitty council or their stadium management company got shafted.
I could even stomach the Sixfields move IF it achieved their shady aim of Ricoh ownership. Ever since that backfired so spectacularly though and the council sold the club down the river with a 250 year lease to Wasps, then the smoke, mirrors and gross exaggerations have been turned on the fans.
Now I've no issue with the club being run at break even, in fact I find the model admirable in a time of obscene money in the sport, but that needs to go hand in hand with transparency - something SISU have never done. Even when they told us how many fans we need it was grossly miscalculated (or just not true). The accounts need a lifetime of work in that field to make sense of and even experts cannot fully explain it all from the outside looking in. Our players are sold in secrecy and for values that reek of desperation and the product on the pitch has been dire for all bar 6 months.
Even now, with SISU giving up on the club until they get some return on their perceived investment then I could accept it, alongside open and honest communication from our chairman. I would at least have some hope then. But all the Butts bullshit, the Ryton houses, the rumours of not 1 sale but potentially 3 youth products in 1 window with no idea if Slade is getting any at all, no visible progress on either Academy or Ricoh rentals and Fisher blaming the fans. etc leads me to agree with you - they aren't bad owners. They're fucking terrible.
Careful or you'll be getting a PM about his family of lawyers (allegedly).Anyone who has had dealings with PWKH may potentially have a different, far less charitable view.
In my opinion of course Peter.
Is it april foolsThat's it, we don't have bad owners. In my mind we have owners who've invested a staggering sum and no longer want to put anything else in. If we were to drop into league 2, become sustainable and build from there would it be a big problem?
If we keep this academy churning out a few decent players each year we could become a very big fish in that league.
That's it, we don't have bad owners. In my mind we have owners who've invested a staggering sum and no longer want to put anything else in. If we were to drop into league 2, become sustainable and build from there would it be a big problem?
If we keep this academy churning out a few decent players each year we could become a very big fish in that league.
So basically then why would anyone own a football club unless it's a bloody rich bloke looking for a hobby?
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