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Why can't we do this? What are the SBT's thoughts and actions on this? (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter skybluebeduff
  • Start date Oct 22, 2014
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skybluebeduff

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  • Oct 22, 2014
  • #1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29699104

Fan Ownership: Government and football chiefs launch new group.

Have the trust contacted The Supporter Ownership and Engagement Expert Group??

Why couldn't we do this? What's stopping us?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 22, 2014
  • #2
Do what? Join an advisory group to look at the barriers and obstacles to fan ownership, and see how to implement policy to overcome them?
 

skybluebeduff

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  • Oct 22, 2014
  • #3
Deleted member 5849 said:
Do what? Join an advisory group to look at the barriers and obstacles to fan ownership, and see how to implement policy to overcome them?
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Everything has obstacles in football, ours being SISU. It would need structure at first, what's stopping it?
 

skybluebeduff

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  • Oct 22, 2014
  • #4
The process has to start from somewhere, if we want SISU out, then the process needs to begin asap.
 

sw88

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  • Oct 22, 2014
  • #5
Fan ownership isn't the answer IMO. To get out of leagues like this one, you need money. A bunch of fans collecting cash in envelopes is going to get us nowhere.

What is needed is for our current owners to see that the problem is a lack of financing; get the cheque book out Joy (or PayPal if you prefer)
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 22, 2014
  • #6
skybluebeduff said:
Everything has obstacles in football, ours being SISU. It would need structure at first, what's stopping it?
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What's stopping it is those very barriers!

It's good people are looking at ways to facilitate fan-ownership or influence in this country, this is a good thing and not before time.

As it stands, however, fan ownership in entirity only ever works as a firefighting measure in this country, because the systems aren't set up to support it as a desired model. After firefighting, fan ownership tends to fold as the realities hit home.

Given who's on that panel I struggle to see any change other than paying lip service to fans... but you never know. What's slightly more concerning in a general sense is they seem mainly to be looking to remove the obstacles to fans having influence at clubs. Nowt wrong with that either... although it has to be beyond mere ability to own shares, as that didn't do us much good in influencing Robinson and co. before SISU came along. It does seem the most workable compromise as a first step however, but they're not exactly pushing the boundaries with their remit in that case.
 

italiahorse

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  • Oct 22, 2014
  • #7
sw88 said:
Fan ownership isn't the answer IMO. To get out of leagues like this one, you need money. A bunch of fans collecting cash in envelopes is going to get us nowhere.

What is needed is for our current owners to see that the problem is a lack of financing; get the cheque book out Joy (or PayPal if you prefer)
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It would need to be a gift to the club, in that respect it will never happen.
 

Ian1779

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  • Oct 22, 2014
  • #8
Money... that is the barrier that supercedes all others.

Fan ownership model may work in the 6th/7th tier of English football, but it will not work at our level and above.

They can put together all the advisory panels they like, until someone is prepared to take apart the football model at the highest level (which entails TV sponsorship, prize money and distribution of funds through the footballing pyramid to name just a few things) then this is a non-starter.

The fact that Scudamore has the gall to suggest he is in support of it is an insult.
 
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