Whos going to Millwall tuesday? (1 Viewer)

brinner · Oct 30, 2011

and meeting us at 4pm at oxford circus tube station for a protest round the corner at sisu hq??

the more the merrier, if they actually speak to us we have some great questions to put their way.

will report back wednesday about what answers we get, if any.

it will certainly get under their skin whatever happens, they cudnt believe it when 3 of us turned up last time so a few more than that should put a few cats amongst the pidgeons.

Kuklinski · Oct 30, 2011

Pathetic.

What do you suggest SISU do then great wise one? For years we have begged, borrowed & stole to coin a phrase in an attempt at reaching the promised land, and it hasn't happened. Now we are trying to live within our means, and not before time. So please tell me what your protest is aiming to achieve?

brinner · Oct 30, 2011

i just want to find out why sisu continually lie to us amongst other things.

hopefully we mite get some answers.

take it ur not coming then??

valiant15 · Oct 30, 2011

Whats the answer then kuk? Sit on your hands and do fuck all? People like you are pathetic,willing to do nothing while we hurtle towards the third tier:facepalm:

kdrinkell · Oct 30, 2011

Pathetic may be too strong a word to describe this protest,I'd say its a valiant effort albeit useless though....just saw your username ha !

I went Millwall last year and tbh it got a bit near the knuckle and even nearer with a braindead prick called phil on the way home but I wouldn't fancy wandering around there

valiant15 · Oct 30, 2011

Anything is better than nothing,just so they know were still here.They must be sitting in the offices in london laughing there tits off at us up here. I know lets flog another player cos those coventry fans are to wet to do anything about it.

pusbccfc · Oct 30, 2011

Not going to lie great what you are doing, but I can't see more than 100 going?

pusbccfc · Oct 30, 2011

To the game that is...

ccfcway · Oct 30, 2011

Good Luck all, hope it goes well.

Not sure what woulod be defined a "success" with this protest, but I hope you all get something out of it.

kdrinkell · Oct 30, 2011

valiant15 said:
Anything is better than nothing,just so they know were still here.They must be sitting in the offices in london laughing there tits off at us up here. I know lets flog another player cos those coventry fans are to wet to do anything about it.

Unfurling a massive flag at the Ricoh when we are a televised game would certainly get their attention or place flyers on every car in the official car parks by the stadium would piss them off also.
Unless you get publicity the sisu stunt will be minimal but if you feel better for doing something rather than nowt then fair play :claping hands:

Kuklinski · Oct 30, 2011

valiant15 said:
Whats the answer then kuk? Sit on your hands and do fuck all? People like you are pathetic,willing to do nothing while we hurtle towards the third tier:facepalm:

You don't know what I do you ignorant drip so stop making assumptions.

I take it you all realise the reason why we are in the precarious financial position we are is because of previous boards overspending, and borrowing more and more to try and keep us in the Premiership, and to get us back there once were did drop out? And now we have people in charge who gave brought a halt to our previous financial folly, you want to protest?

What is the answer then please? Borrow more and more, and if that fails we watch the club go out of business?

There is an old saying about living within your means, but for too long we haven't. So to suggest the answer is to continue with a previous failed policy actually beggars belief.

kdrinkell · Oct 30, 2011

Come on fellas we are all on the same side as to wanting the best for our team

brinner · Oct 30, 2011

Kuklinski said:
You don't know what I do you ignorant drip so stop making assumptions.

I take it you all realise the reason why we are in the precarious financial position we are is because of previous boards overspending, and borrowing more and more to try and keep us in the Premiership, and to get us back there once were did drop out? And now we have people in charge who gave brought a halt to our previous financial folly, you want to protest?

What is the answer then please? Borrow more and more, and if that fails we watch the club go out of business?

There is an old saying about living within your means, but for too long we haven't. So to suggest the answer is to continue with a previous failed policy actually beggars belief.

so what do you think sisu are doing??

they are borrowing money based on the next 2 years season ticket income, they are not running us with their own money but borrowed money so they are infact as bad if not worse than previous owners.

at least previous owners recognised when the team was going to get relegated and actually signed 1 or 2 players to try and help resolve the situation while fucking our finances up..................mind you, you need to attend games to recognise this and sisu dont do that do they, hence why onye and doolally think we have a "quality squad".

where will sisu borrow the money from in the summer when we have absoloutely no income coming thru the coffers cos every season ticket that is bought is going on paying the loan off which they took out to fund us for this season??

oh i know they will sell juke, bigi, christie, thomas maybe cody if he scores a few.....................oh hang on, most of them will be gone in january so we wont be able to do that so they will do 1 and put us in to administration at the end of the season.

we just gotta pray this takeover happens sooner rather than later as the only way is down with these current clowns in charge of our club.

rickyCCFC · Oct 30, 2011

I'll be there

gary_ccfcforever · Oct 30, 2011

you sit on your arse then and take the piss out of people who actually attempt to do something, you think sisu are doing the best thing for ccfc??? no, they are doing the best thing for themselves, Whilst Tango man creams £1,000 a day in expenses and stays at Coombe Abbey, and for what? what does he bring to this football Club? what has he actually done so far??

You are entitled to do what you want, but dont start slagging off people who are trying to amke a difference and get answers!

dadgad · Oct 30, 2011

gary_ccfcforever said:
you sit on your arse then and take the piss out of people who actually attempt to do something, you think sisu are doing the best thing for ccfc??? no, they are doing the best thing for themselves, Whilst Tango man creams £1,000 a day in expenses and stays at Coombe Abbey, and for what? what does he bring to this football Club? what has he actually done so far??

You are entitled to do what you want, but dont start slagging off people who are trying to amke a difference and get answers!

:claping hands::claping hands:
Excellent post, well put!
I too support the right to protest in an attempt to get answers........
At the beginning of Sisu's tenure we had a fairly good squad compared to now.
We're going backwards. They say we have to "live within our means" but gates are down as a result of their strategies. Is it sensible to fiddle while Cov burns?
Of course it is not. Anybody who has the club's interests at heart should at least encourage the protestors even if they haven't the bottle for a fight.

Jaypeg69 · Oct 30, 2011

Agree with KDrinkall all on the same side fellas!! However also agree that we all have rights to shout our opinion and make sisu understand how we, as passionate and loyal supporters feel!! The more publicity the better #PUSB

sky blue zam · Oct 31, 2011

Kuklinski said:
You don't know what I do you ignorant drip so stop making assumptions.

I take it you all realise the reason why we are in the precarious financial position we are is because of previous boards overspending, and borrowing more and more to try and keep us in the Premiership, and to get us back there once were did drop out

I take it you mean the previous owners who wrote off millions of their own money meaning their was little debt indeed. And now that has increased to £40m

Gaz · Oct 31, 2011

I'm going down to the millwall, going to meet up with my brother for a few drinks before the game as he has just moved down that way.

Not been before so not sure where best to go for a few jars.
Anyone recommend anywhere ?

CUS Wyken · Oct 31, 2011

gaz said:
I'm going down to the millwall, going to meet up with my brother for a few drinks before the game as he has just moved down that way.

Not been before so not sure where best to go for a few jars.
Anyone recommend anywhere ?

We're drinking round london bridge I reckon. Then over train straight to the ground.

CUS Wyken · Oct 31, 2011

sky blue zam said:
I take it you mean the previous owners who wrote off millions of their own money meaning their was little debt indeed. And now that has increased to £40m

Richardson the crook done us over and we've never recovered. Simple as that.

smileycov · Oct 31, 2011

gaz said:
I'm going down to the millwall, going to meet up with my brother for a few drinks before the game as he has just moved down that way.

Not been before so not sure where best to go for a few jars.
Anyone recommend anywhere ?

The areas around the ground, Bermondsey, Surrey Quays and Deptford are not pleasant and i would strongly advise against wandering through for a beer. As previous post get up to London Bridge, exit station and opposite (bearing slightly left) is all bar one, couple of pubs further down and the barrowboy is accross the road at the end of London Bridge itself. you are ideal then to jump on overground train and walk to ground.

crowsnest · Oct 31, 2011

While you are there ask them about Otium Entertainment Group whose directors are Brody, Delieu and Iwge.

Why have the shares been transfered from Sky blue sports and leisure to Otium?

Kuklinski · Oct 31, 2011

brinner said:
so what do you think sisu are doing??

they are borrowing money based on the next 2 years season ticket income, they are not running us with their own money but borrowed money so they are infact as bad if not worse than previous owners.

Yes SISU are borrowing money to keep us running, so what do you suggest they do instead? Not borrow and watch the club fold? Live within your means, if we are not getting the crowds through the door then the inevitable facts are we will have even less money coming in, and we will drop further and further down the leagues.

brinner said:
at least previous owners recognised when the team was going to get relegated and actually signed 1 or 2 players to try and help resolve the situation while fucking our finances up..................mind you, you need to attend games to recognise this and sisu dont do that do they, hence why onye and doolally think we have a "quality squad".

And look where this got us, a poor Championship team, soon to be Division 1 team.

brinner said:
where will sisu borrow the money from in the summer when we have absoloutely no income coming thru the coffers cos every season ticket that is bought is going on paying the loan off which they took out to fund us for this season??

So what do you suggest? If we hadn't taken these loans out we wouldn't even have a team to be discussing this, so what is your answer?

brinner said:
oh i know they will sell juke, bigi, christie, thomas maybe cody if he scores a few.....................oh hang on, most of them will be gone in january so we wont be able to do that so they will do 1 and put us in to administration at the end of the season.

It's called living within your means. If I am struggling to pay my mortgage, but I have a car worth £10,000, I will sell the car, pay my mortgage and buy a cheaper car.

brinner said:
we just gotta pray this takeover happens sooner rather than later as the only way is down with these current clowns in charge of our club.

I don't doubt we are on the way down with SISU in charge, but until somebody comes in with a credible bid, done without constantly feeding the media snippets of info here and there, we are stuck with SISU, and as much as it galls everybody, a SISU keeping the club going as it is is a better option than no club at all.

gary_ccfcforever said:
you sit on your arse then and take the piss out of people who actually attempt to do something, you think sisu are doing the best thing for ccfc??? no, they are doing the best thing for themselves, Whilst Tango man creams £1,000 a day in expenses and stays at Coombe Abbey, and for what? what does he bring to this football Club? what has he actually done so far??

You are entitled to do what you want, but dont start slagging off people who are trying to amke a difference and get answers!

If I was a highly successful businessman sat in my office in London, I would get all the people in my office together, point out the bunch of scruffy football supporters stood outside drinking special brew and start laughing at them. It will change nothing, and make you look foolish, nothing personal.

sky_blue_up_north · Oct 31, 2011

CUS Wyken said:
Richardson the crook done us over and we've never recovered. Simple as that.

Totally agree that is where it all when wrong, we've never recovered from that

gary_ccfcforever · Oct 31, 2011

why is it just because we are atttempting to do something and going down to sisu, that constitues us all being some kind of scruffy chav??? We are going down to sisu with a set of questions of which we want answered by our 'owners'. Its not a violent protest, we are not trouble makers, we just want the best for our club, you are quite entitled to do nothing and accept the situation, but some of us are not. You think taking out loans on future income is 'living within our means'??! It wouldnt be a problem with sisu if they told us that the plan was to sell everyone, thats we couldnt afford loans, We can't afford the ricoh... but we dont get that we get lies from a faceless organisation who couldnt care one iota about ccfc or the fans, and are not the slightest bit interested in the football side of our club.

Bennets Afro · Oct 31, 2011

SISU are not keeping the club afloat by putting their hands in their pockets. They are keeping us afloat by selling everything and mortgaging everything they can.

Even I could run this club by doing that. What happens in the summer then when we have nothin left to sell/ mortgage kuklinski?????

crowsnest · Oct 31, 2011

Bennets Afro said:
SISU are not keeping the club afloat by putting their hands in their pockets. They are keeping us afloat by selling everything and mortgaging everything they can.

Even I could run this club by doing that. What happens in the summer then when we have nothin left to sell/ mortgage kuklinski?????

As we have sold 1 player in the last 18 months and all the mortgages have been paid off, they are not doing a very good job on that.

Bennets Afro · Oct 31, 2011

You forget prozone and the savings on wages by the release and non-signing of players. It all adds up!!!

Kuklinski · Oct 31, 2011

gary_ccfcforever said:
why is it just because we are atttempting to do something and going down to sisu, that constitues us all being some kind of scruffy chav??? We are going down to sisu with a set of questions of which we want answered by our 'owners'. Its not a violent protest, we are not trouble makers, we just want the best for our club, you are quite entitled to do nothing and accept the situation, but some of us are not. You think taking out loans on future income is 'living within our means'??! It wouldnt be a problem with sisu if they told us that the plan was to sell everyone, thats we couldnt afford loans, We can't afford the ricoh... but we dont get that we get lies from a faceless organisation who couldnt care one iota about ccfc or the fans, and are not the slightest bit interested in the football side of our club.

Do you believe that I don't want the best for the club? Seriously. I just fail to see what it is you expect to achieve. Do you really believe a representative of SISU is going to pop downstairs and answer your questions? Of course not. You have already said yourself "we get lies", so why do you want to question people who tell you lies?

Bennets Afro said:
SISU are not keeping the club afloat by putting their hands in their pockets. They are keeping us afloat by selling everything and mortgaging everything they can.

Even I could run this club by doing that. What happens in the summer then when we have nothin left to sell/ mortgage kuklinski?????

What would have happened if we hadn't already mortgaged our assets and took out future loans? Why would you expect a group of people with no emotional connection to the club or City to finance it out of their own pockets? I imagine that come the summer we will sell any player we can get money for, and then if SISU can't raise any more money via future loans or mortgaging assets we will go into administration, then what?? I guess it's at this point Gary Hoffman will ride to our rescue like a white Knight on horseback? Just as Eddie Jordan was going to do so a decade back.

brinner · Oct 31, 2011

Kuklinski said:
What would have happened if we hadn't already mortgaged our assets and took out future loans? Why would you expect a group of people with no emotional connection to the club or City to finance it out of their own pockets? I imagine that come the summer we will sell any player we can get money for, and then if SISU can't raise any more money via future loans or mortgaging assets we will go into administration, then what?? I guess it's at this point Gary Hoffman will ride to our rescue like a white Knight on horseback? Just as Eddie Jordan was going to do so a decade back.

i would expect them to at least try and find some investment to put in to strengthening the football team, all they seem to do is sell a player every transfer window to pay the intrest on the debt they have built up while here.

all ive heard them come up with so far is opening a bank account for fans to put money in to! we already buy our season tickets for that..................oh hang on i forgot thats no good as they are already spending the next 2 years season ticket revenue on keeping us running this season despite making a £2 million profit on transfers in the summer.

Nonleagueherewecome · Oct 31, 2011

Odd, I don't recall Kuklinski being quite so rabidly pro-SISU before :thinking about:

Whatever your views on the matter, why on earth do you object to people carrying out one of their essential human rights-to have a voice and protest? It's very undemocratic of you! Seeing as they won't let us protest at The Ricoh any more, what do the scumbags expect?

Grendel · Oct 31, 2011

I don't quite get the pro-SISU stance. I do empathise with the comment on Ransom but in truth SISU are getting off lightly. We can argue if they have an obligation to invest in the club all day long but as owners of a business that relies on members of the public to support them the communication with supporters and apparant disdain towards them is shocking. The pretence of buying half the stadium would be amusing if it was not so insulting - they have no money. This is an institution that has zero empathy with the football club and shows no regard for it's real stakeholders (i.e. the fans). So it should expect protests. As I say I think they have got off lightly so far - other clubs could have made it far more uncomfortable for them.

Kuklinski · Nov 1, 2011

Nonleagueherewecome said:
Odd, I don't recall Kuklinski being quite so rabidly pro-SISU before :thinking about:

Whatever your views on the matter, why on earth do you object to people carrying out one of their essential human rights-to have a voice and protest? It's very undemocratic of you! Seeing as they won't let us protest at The Ricoh any more, what do the scumbags expect?

I'm not "pro-SISU" by any stretch, but unless there is a credible bid on the table, what is to be achieved by hounding them?

I hope all of those going down to SISU hq tomorrow get the answers they want, but as I've asked earlier, why do you want answers from people who you class as liars? Surely if somebody from SISU does speak to you it will be more lies?

If you are there mind, any chance you can take some pictures of all those who make it and post them on here?

gary_ccfcforever · Nov 1, 2011

that's just it though, there is a credible bid on the table...

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