RoboCCFC90
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Bye Haji
I don't think we'll be getting 5-6m for Vik. He does have a €100m release clause which would yield us £5.4m, but most reports have him going at approx £60m. If that's true then we only have 10% of the profit and need to give 15% of that to Brighton. So £4m less 15% means only £3.4m for us sadly.No premier league sides that for sure
With us having the year option on him his value will still be around the 7-8 million mark
Add the Vik sell on of around 5 -6 million and that's easily enough pocket money to add what we need whilst not losing any of the crown jewels
Burroughs, Howley, Tavares, Tyler all being released also, Allen and Paterson unsure
We Should have around 12 million without selling (bar Sheaf) which in my view is easily enough to get in what we need
Expect to see Bidwell go, same for BTA and the keepers (not Dovin)
Presumably promotion should it happen affects whether Sheaf leaves or not?No premier league sides that for sure
With us having the year option on him his value will still be around the 7-8 million mark
Add the Vik sell on of around 5 -6 million and that's easily enough pocket money to add what we need whilst not losing any of the crown jewels
Burroughs, Howley, Tavares, Tyler all being released also, Allen and Paterson unsure
We Should have around 12 million without selling (bar Sheaf) which in my view is easily enough to get in what we need
Expect to see Bidwell go, same for BTA and the keepers (not Dovin)
I'll take his 1 in 3 over Simms 0 in 3Wright, Doesn't produce it over a whole season, when he's good he's brilliant, but those days are few and far between. 1 in 3? Completely anonymous when he's off it. EMC is a ready made replacement, not at the level of Wright yet but getting there, an injury free pre season and a run of games, he'll be a big player for us next season IMO. Also means we can start to bulk out other areas of the squad with developing players without having to go big on a replacement.
I'll take his 1 in 3 over Simms 0 in 3
when did simms last score?I'll take his 1 in 3 over Simms 0 in 3
Sheffield Wednesday away wasnt it?when did simms last score?
yeah a brace, that was Feb, what arent we doing to feed Simms like we were last season? is it that EMC and rudi are now scoring more instead?Sheffield Wednesday away wasnt it?
Awwww mate don’t start all this again!I don't think we'll be getting 5-6m for Vik. He does have a €100m release clause which would yield us £5.4m, but most reports have him going at approx £60m. If that's true then we only have 10% of the profit and need to give 15% of that to Brighton. So £4m less 15% means only £3.4m for us sadly.
How much do you realistically get for those 3? We’d struggle to get anything for BTA, maybe £2m for Simms and Eccles is hard to price but again, can’t see more than £2-3m.Rather gather some funds by selling the likes of BTA, Simms, Eccles. Spend out on 2 or 3 and just be smarter in the free transfer market with the rest.
sales would have to be (if in the prem)How much do you realistically get for those 3? We’d struggle to get anything for BTA, maybe £2m for Simms and Eccles is hard to price but again, can’t see more than £2-3m.
I think you might be surprised. From what i can gather teams were prepared to give us our money back for BTA in Jan (if an ITK could confirm?) Reckon Simms would go for similar and Eccles i guess it depends how much someone wants him. With the market as it and based on what we've heard about BTA honestly think it could average out at about £3 million each. Less for the likes of Lati, Binks, Bidwell who i'd also move on and could easily be replaced with freebies.How much do you realistically get for those 3? We’d struggle to get anything for BTA, maybe £2m for Simms and Eccles is hard to price but again, can’t see more than £2-3m.
Simms has started the last 4 games i dont know why he wouldnt be happy ?Last season we fizzled out after exiting the FA cup. Fatigue etc all blamed. This season, we really have something to play for until the end and we seem to be suffering the same apathy, even if it has started later in the season. Only Rudoni and Grimes are new recruits that are currently in the team and they are arguably our current best players. Wright seems totally disinterested for some reason and Simms has completely gone AWOL, arguably even more so since Wright has come back into the team. Any coincidence with Sheaf coming back into the team and regaining the captaincy? Any conclusions to draw?
I don't think we'll be getting 5-6m for Vik. He does have a €100m release clause which would yield us £5.4m, but most reports have him going at approx £60m. If that's true then we only have 10% of the profit and need to give 15% of that to Brighton. So £4m less 15% means only £3.4m for us sadly.
Scored quite well in the Pink Parrot, didn't do so well in Busters.Has anyone got any data regarding Simms scoring record in different formations?
I was at all 4 and I don't remember seeing him.Simms has started the last 4 games i dont know why he wouldnt be happy ?
Well something isnt right with him. It cant all be down to skill level. His attitude doesn't look right for some reason.Simms has started the last 4 games i dont know why he wouldnt be happy ?
Has anyone got any data regarding Simms scoring record in different formations?
| Formation | Starts | Goals | Ratio |
| 4-2-3-1 | 19 | 5 | 0.26 |
| 3-4-1-2 | 13 | 6 | 0.46 |
| 4-4-1-1 | 6 | 0 | 0.00 |
| 3-4-3 | 5 | 2 | 0.40 |
| 3-5-2 | 4 | 2 | 0.50 |
| 4-3-3 | 3 | 0 | 0.00 |
| 5-3-2 | 2 | 1 | 0.50 |
| 4-1-4-1 | 2 | 1 | 0.50 |
| 4-4-2 | 1 | 0 | 0.00 |
| Grand Total | 55 | 17 | 0.31 |
So better with a partner which is probably true of most strikers, albeit not necessarily best for the team.
Formation Starts Goals Ratio 4-2-3-1 19 5 0.26 3-4-1-2 13 6 0.46 4-4-1-1 6 0 0.00 3-4-3 5 2 0.40 3-5-2 4 2 0.50 4-3-3 3 0 0.00 5-3-2 2 1 0.50 4-1-4-1 2 1 0.50 4-4-2 1 0 0.00 Grand Total 55 17 0.31
from Fbref, hard as it characterises formations differently - but basically 4231 is his worst formation (Championship games where he started only)
Surely we don't have a sell on-sell on clause with Brighton? They'll of had their money from.the original sale? If we bought a striker with a double sell on clause then some words are needed with the back room staff.I don't think we'll be getting 5-6m for Vik. He does have a €100m release clause which would yield us £5.4m, but most reports have him going at approx £60m. If that's true then we only have 10% of the profit and need to give 15% of that to Brighton. So £4m less 15% means only £3.4m for us sadly.
I don't have the inside track and Saddle said above we paid it, but not sure how we covered that off. In the same way as Madders and Wilson moved on we still got more.Surely we don't have a sell on-sell on clause with Brighton? They'll of had their money from.the original sale? If we bought a striker with a double sell on clause then some words are needed with the back room staff.
Though I agree, he's highly unlikely to sell for the top value of his release clause. I see him at more £40-60m than his £80m release.
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Formation Starts Goals Ratio 4-2-3-1 19 5 0.26 3-4-1-2 13 6 0.46 4-4-1-1 6 0 0.00 3-4-3 5 2 0.40 3-5-2 4 2 0.50 4-3-3 3 0 0.00 5-3-2 2 1 0.50 4-1-4-1 2 1 0.50 4-4-2 1 0 0.00 Grand Total 55 17 0.31
from Fbref, hard as it characterises formations differently - but basically 4231 is his worst formation (Championship games where he started only)
So the overall conclusion is hes shit
While it sounds like a decent plan.No premier league sides that for sure
With us having the year option on him his value will still be around the 7-8 million mark
Add the Vik sell on of around 5 -6 million and that's easily enough pocket money to add what we need whilst not losing any of the crown jewels
Burroughs, Howley, Tavares, Tyler all being released also, Allen and Paterson unsure
We Should have around 12 million without selling (bar Sheaf) which in my view is easily enough to get in what we need
Expect to see Bidwell go, same for BTA and the keepers (not Dovin)
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