The only reliable bookie opinion is the initial bookie tissue . Subsequent to that the markets are determined by traders maximising their position and punters.Aren't the bookies predictions really just the predictions of punters? Though I guess it's a bit chicken and egg as to when the starting odds are decided.
Am I right in thinking that 8th would be a bad season for us or am I being overly optimistic?I could easily swap any of the top four around, and any of fifth to eighth too, but I think this'll be there or thereabouts.
1. Sheffield Utd
2. Burnley
3. Luton
4. Leeds
5. Middlesborough
6. Norwich
7. West Brom
8. Coventry
Not if we've done the cup double....Am I right in thinking that 8th would be a bad season for us or am I being overly optimistic?
Am I right in thinking that 8th would be a bad season for us or am I being overly optimistic?
They have found a way of beating teams regardless of the defensive weakness.Think Bristol City will finish mid-table. Middlesborough will be up there. Norwich always seem to have decent forwards but not be so clever at the back.
Penalties? I hope we go to Wembley again. Really enjoying the day even though the outcomes of late have not gone our way.Cov Sheffied Utd play off final with us winning 2-1 and the whole of the city end singing “it could have been you” to Ohare
I’m hoping we have cover for all positions.What seems clear from people's opinions on here, is that there are a lot of competitive teams in the league, who ought to take points off each other. That suggests a congested league, points wise - especially from the middle of the table upwards. Should make it an exciting season, and luck with injuries could well be the difference between success and failure. At least we look like we will probably have reasonable back up in most areas of the pitch.
They will be a wait til the end of the window team i feelWhat about Hull? They may be similar to us last season.
New system to adapt to (high intensity attacking) plus not recruited much in the way of new players, so unlikely to be very consistent, I wouldn't have thought. Suspect they will spend big on loans if last season is anything to go by? Too much player turnover likely to hinder them - but very curious to see how successful their new style is.What about Hull? They may be similar to us last season.
I think this (it won't let me 'like' it for some reason) and the comments about cup runs/wembley/trophies are much better thought through than my original question. Got to consider the season in the round.great question actually. Honestly couldn’t tell you. I guess would depend on the circumstances but it’s a tough crowd if 8th is seen as a failure.
Best Manager in the division title is already spoken forCan't believe people would overlook Luton. Lost Barkley and all there team have a year of experience at the highest level. Also the best manager in the division imo.
If it involves higher tempo football where players actually shoot at goal then all power to themNew system to adapt to (high intensity attacking) plus not recruited much in the way of new players, so unlikely to be very consistent, I wouldn't have thought. Suspect they will spend big on loans if last season is anything to go by? Too much player turnover likely to hinder them - but very curious to see how successful their new style is.
Massively disagreeSome odd comments here. Leeds and Sheff U have lost a lot of top players and will likely struggle unless they get their shit together.
Based on our current recruitment I don't think we'll be anywhere near the play offs. 8th-10th maximum for us unless we make 3-4 top quality signings. You're having a laugh if you think we'll make the autos.
I think: Norwich, WBA, Luton, Burnley, Boro and possibly Watford, Pompey.
You're having a laugh if you think Pompey will finish above us (Edit: that said, I couldn't believe what Ipswich achieved last season) !Some odd comments here. Leeds and Sheff U have lost a lot of top players and will likely struggle unless they get their shit together.
Based on our current recruitment I don't think we'll be anywhere near the play offs. 8th-10th maximum for us unless we make 3-4 top quality signings. You're having a laugh if you think we'll make the autos.
I think: Norwich, WBA, Luton, Burnley, Boro and possibly Watford, Pompey.
Some odd comments here. Leeds and Sheff U have lost a lot of top players and will likely struggle unless they get their shit together.
Based on our current recruitment I don't think we'll be anywhere near the play offs. 8th-10th maximum for us unless we make 3-4 top quality signings. You're having a laugh if you think we'll make the autos.
I think: Norwich, WBA, Luton, Burnley, Boro and possibly Watford, Pompey.
Massively disagree
Those signings are going to come the window is open for another six weeks
Portsmouth got a better chance than us?
You can make a point without being hyperbolic. To say we haven't strengthened at all is pretty ridiculous.Disagree all you want but we haven't strengthened at all. I'm fairly confident we'll get the players necessary though. Top 6 will be very difficult, people on here need to temper their expectations or we'll be seeing the usual meltdowns.
You can make a point without being hyperbolic. To say we haven't strengthened at all is pretty ridiculous.
we haven't strengthened at all.
Fully agree, the squad is improving, I think someone suggested the other day that our second 11 are probably good enough to avoid relegation from the Championship now which is probably true, which means we have less weaknesses overall so over the season should perform well.EMC and Raphael are new options out wide.
Binks is now our player with no CBs leaving.
We've added a new GK and not let any leave.
Need one or two more, but we've strengthened.
If you mean the first XI, maybe you're right.
but the squad is already a lot stronger now.
Ignoring that we have more strength in the wide attacking positions and added a new keeper, most of last summer’s intake have improved over the season so are better players than they were a year ago. Thomas especially is far better and will keep improving.Rudoni is the only player we've signed that you can claim we've strengthened. Great player but he's a like-for-like replacing O'Hare. If we signed Stamenic then also yes.
Where have we strengthened?
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