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Which players would you keep for next season? (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Ann Proctor-Brown
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Ann Proctor-Brown

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #1
O hare,Osti (if we could afford him) Eccles,Godden.Let the rest go including u23s and players out on loan now.A lot of them will never make the grade.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #2
Ann Proctor-Brown said:
O hare,Osti (if we could afford him) Eccles,Godden.Let the rest go including u23s and players out on loan now.A lot of them will never make the grade.
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Offhegoes

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #3
Marosi (as No 2)
Rose
McFadz
Dabo
DaCosta
Reid
Kelly
Sheaf
Eccles
O’Hare
J. Jones
Godden
Biamou (back up striker)

I’d sell Walker and bring in a no 1 striker, with Godden as no 2. Biamou and Tavares as back up.
Wilson, Shipley, Allen, Hyam, Pask, Jobello, Kastanerr, Hilsner all to be sold/released.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #4
Offhegoes said:
Marosi (as No 2)
Rose
McFadz
Dabo
DaCosta
Reid
Kelly
Sheaf
Eccles
O’Hare
J. Jones
Godden
Biamou (back up striker)

I’d sell Walker and bring in a no 1 striker, with Godden as no 2. Biamou and Tavares as back up.
Wilson, Shipley, Allen, Hyam, Pask, Jobello, Kastanerr, Hilsner all to be sold/released.
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You'd sell walker and keep biamou and tavares?
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #5
Evo1883 said:
You'd sell walker and keep biamou and tavares?
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yep as Walker would command a fee. Which could help bringing in that No 1 striker we need. Tavares is a development player and Biamou would go on a free.
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #6
Only one I’m scared to lose is O’hare. The rest are replaceable if the money is right
 
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matesx

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #7
Keep Godden Osti Dabo O’Hare Hamer
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #8
Yeah let's sell/release 20 players and sign another 20, what could possibly go wrong
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #9
And really easy to sell players like Kastaneer and Joel lol!
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #10
Jobello
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #11
Due to the fact we don’t have a magic money tree

In the first team:

Dabo, Rose, Hamer, Sheaf, O’Hare, Walker

In the squad:

Dacosta, McFadzean, Hyam, Reid, Eccles, Jones, Allen, Godden

Think that’s about it. Though we won’t have the funds to buy 10+ players so inevitably will have to keep others around. But we need 6/7 first team quality players in the summer whether that’s loans free or whatever. Someone needs to find a way.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #12
Evo1883 said:
You'd sell walker and keep biamou and tavares?
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You've got to be practical. If we can bring in a new #1 striker at least one of Godden an Walker become a backup. Or even both of them if we go one up front. Would they be prepared to take that role?

Even if they would you have to look at the impact on budget. Biamou as a cheap 4th or 5th choice striker is very different to him playing every game as 1st choice.

Making a judgement on Tavares seems harsh even for our fanbase. 20 year old kid that's only been here a few weeks and hasn't played a game but we're already talking about getting rid of him!
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #13
There's not many players I'd be upset about losing to be honest but equally the replacements would need to be better and that's not a given with any signing.

And of course its a lot easier to list who you'd sell on here but the reality is you need a willing buyer. Which players are out of contract at the end of the season?

As we don't have an unlimited budget would it be better to target 2 or 3 key signings rather than trying to build pretty much a whole new squad from scratch? New keeper, Osti replacement and a goalscorer who isn't injury prone would be the things I'd be addressing first.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #14
We need to add strength height and pace straight down the spine of the side and a goalkeeper who commands his box and can save the ball ability on the ball should be less important
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #15
If we are in championship keep:

Marosi
Osti
Dabo
Mcallum
Sheaf
Hamer
James
O hare
Godden
Walker
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #16
Assuming we stay up

First team keep:
Dabo
Ostigard (if we can sign)
Mcallum (if we can sign)
Hamer
O'Hare

Squad keep:
Marosi or Wilson
Hyam
McFadzean
Da Costa
Pask
Kelly
Sheaf (if we can sign)
Walker
Godden

Sign:
New GK
New CB
2x CM
2x ST
 
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KersleyDigs

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #17
First teamers...
Marosi (or Wilson)
Dabo
DaCosta
Ostigard (Please!)
Hyam
Rose
Reid
Hamer
O'Hare
Sheaf
Godden
Walker
Jones
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #18
I'd be tempted to cash in on Walker, Hamer and O'Hare for the right price.

We need to decide how we want to play football and how we score goals. The wingbacks and box system did is well in league one, but they aren't working in this league. We were equally impressive if not more dangerous when before Jobello got injured with the 433 formation, with Jobello one side and Hiwula the other.

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Deleted member 11652

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #19
stupot07 said:
I'd be tempted to cash in on Walker, Hamer and O'Hare for the right price.

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Be surprised if we’d even get our money back for Walker wouldn’t you? Hamer 2-3m if we’re lucky? I’m resigned to losing o’hare
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #20
Boosh said:
Be surprised if we’d even get our money back for Walker wouldn’t you? Hamer 2-3m if we’re lucky? I’m resigned to losing o’hare
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Whilst he's arguable been our best player, is output is replaceable. I know I keep going on about it, but 2 goals in 39 games for a number ten is not good enough.

You might get some money back on Walker depending on who goes down. Guaranteed goals in league one.

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Grendel

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #21
chiefdave said:
You've got to be practical. If we can bring in a new #1 striker at least one of Godden an Walker become a backup. Or even both of them if we go one up front. Would they be prepared to take that role?

Even if they would you have to look at the impact on budget. Biamou as a cheap 4th or 5th choice striker is very different to him playing every game as 1st choice.

Making a judgement on Tavares seems harsh even for our fanbase. 20 year old kid that's only been here a few weeks and hasn't played a game but we're already talking about getting rid of him!
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Why would you have biamou as a 4th or 5th choice - it’s pointless. Retain Mcfazdean as 6th choice? Keep Kelly in case we need him for a couple of games? Get mason back for the one game he may have to play?
 
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Marty

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #22
Probably only Osti, Dabo, Hamer & O'Hare who are up to Championship football. Won't be wholesale changes due to money constraints, if we stay I think the following positions would go a long way to making the season easier, badly need quality over quantity, so would like:-

1 GK
2 CB
1 CM
1 AM
1 Target man.
 
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lifeskyblue

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #23
Would keep O’Hare and Dabo
Would try and get ostigard back on loan (assuming Brighton stay up).

Keep Marosi as number 2 keeper, Kelly, rose or hyam (not necessarily both), as squad players. Possibly Sheaf (if we tied in to buying him).

Don’t really think any of our strikers are championship quality...but need two of them as back up (a fully fit Walker and godden...but wouldn’t be unhappy if they all were replaced)

Hamer flatters to deceive...perhaps his head turned. I expect him to sign for a top Scottish club

Fadz as a defensive coach or help train youngsters.

Rest of first team for me can go.

Would like to see Reid and bapaga in pre season...will they make it. Same with Eccles.

Robins needs to be ruthless and needs improvement all over the field.


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lifeskyblue

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #24
Of course it’s unrealistic for so many changes but Robins will be looking all over the park.
Bare minimum a keeper who can command
A central defender who is both quick and strong
Another ‘flair’ midfield player who can create
A striker (or two) who can dominate defenders and know where the net is


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Hobo

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #25
If they are under contract you will struggle to get rid of them.

Players I would sign on new contract ,Thompson squad player, Eccles squad player, Kelly squad player. Possibly Shipley for squad but I year (he might benefit from a proper pre season fitness wise).

Hyam I think we can find someone better.

Sheaf I think we have an obligation on and he could still improve.

Ostigaard if available and we can afford him.

McFadz done well but too old next year - already lacks pace.

Jones too imjury prone and unknown at this level. Baka not good enough. Biamou not good enough. Kasta not good enough.

We need a striker, an attacking mid, a goalkeeper and at least two centre backs.

This is based on us staying up.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #26
stupot07 said:
I'd be tempted to cash in on Walker, Hamer and O'Hare for the right price.

We need to decide how we want to play football and how we score goals. The wingbacks and box system did is well in league one, but they aren't working in this league. We were equally impressive if not more dangerous when before Jobello got injured with the 433 formation, with Jobello one side and Hiwula the other.

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I think I’d like to see us go back to 4231. Get a striker who can lead the line, a couple of wide forwards, and then hopefully we only need one CB a GK and a proper LB. Play O’Hare in the number 10 with Hamer and Sheaf behind.

We’ve really lacked wide forwards this season.
 
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Magwitch1

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #27
Ann Proctor-Brown said:
O hare,Osti (if we could afford him) Eccles,Godden.Let the rest go including u23s and players out on loan now.A lot of them will never make the grade.
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How stupid
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #28
It's taken a while to re-establish a sense of identity again, and a number of these players have been at the core. If you go to work with a bunch of friends and they all suddenly leave, it's unsettling. I get it that a football club is different, but we know that players under contract can't just be sold off and nearly everybody we let go will have to be replaced with someone who will be on a) higher wages or will cost more in transfer fees than anyone we sell. So, to expect to be losing 15 players and buying 15 is asking for chaos with the likely resultant league position. We all know we need to lose at least half a dozen and strengthen, but our budget is unlikely to be able a mass turnover in one go.
 

TTG

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  • Mar 21, 2021
  • #29
Ann Proctor-Brown said:
O hare,Osti (if we could afford him) Eccles,Godden.Let the rest go including u23s and players out on loan now.A lot of them will never make the grade.
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Ah yes, because releasing Dabo, Dacosta, Pask, Rowe, Drysdale, Williams, Rose, McFadzean, Hyam, Thompson, Marosi, Wilson, Billson, Tyler, Reid, Kelly, Sheaf, James, Hamer, Allen, Shipley, Mason, Jobello, Jones, Kastaneer, Bremang, Bapaga, Walker, Bakayoko, Gyokeres, Hilssner, Burroughs, and Young is gonna be really beneficial for the club....
 
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Samo

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  • Mar 22, 2021
  • #30
I do find it comical that people are making judgments either way on players like Reid and Tavares when they have not seen them kick a ball.
 
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matesx

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  • Mar 22, 2021
  • #31
TTG said:
Ah yes, because releasing Dabo, Dacosta, Pask, Rowe, Drysdale, Williams, Rose, McFadzean, Hyam, Thompson, Marosi, Wilson, Billson, Tyler, Reid, Kelly, Sheaf, James, Hamer, Allen, Shipley, Mason, Jobello, Jones, Kastaneer, Bremang, Bapaga, Walker, Bakayoko, Gyokeres, Hilssner, Burroughs, and Young is gonna be really beneficial for the club....
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Would be if we replace them with actual Championship standard players.

Over to you Joy.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 22, 2021
  • #32
matesx said:
Would be if we replace them with actual Championship standard players.

Over to you Joy.
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Lol indeed. All this talk of budget which is trying to imply it’s beyond the clubs influence is nonsense. This is one thing that genuinely annoys me about Robins as he’s very quick to trot out the owner messaging

It’s rubbish in this division there is no real budget there’s no wage cap vs revenue it’s how much the owners want to spend
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 22, 2021
  • #33
Grendel said:
Lol indeed. All this talk of budget which is trying to imply it’s beyond the clubs influence is nonsense. This is one thing that genuinely annoys me about Robins as he’s very quick to trot out the owner messaging

It’s rubbish in this division there is no real budget there’s no wage cap vs revenue it’s how much the owners want to spend
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Ah now we are in agreement. The budget is whatever Joy decides to spend. We exist entirely at her behest and aren’t self sustainable. With you now.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 22, 2021
  • #34
shmmeee said:
Ah now we are in agreement. The budget is whatever Joy decides to spend. We exist entirely at her behest and aren’t self sustainable. With you now.
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The point on the budget debate is mark robins has zero knowledge of other clubs budget (I assume he means wages) and the suggestion we have less spend than Wycombe is utter drivel
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 22, 2021
  • #35
shmmeee said:
Ah now we are in agreement. The budget is whatever Joy decides to spend. We exist entirely at her behest and aren’t self sustainable. With you now.
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Owners are I think permitted to oversee losses of £15m and can put equity in the club
 
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