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Which one (3 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Saddlebrains
  • Start date May 3, 2022
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Go on then. Which one would we rather lose

  • Hamer

    Votes: 73 55.7%
  • Viktor

    Votes: 15 11.5%
  • O'Hare

    Votes: 43 32.8%

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Grendel

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #71
harvey098 said:
Quite interesting. I bet he would’ve been very close to being in the very middle too. Still impressive though. I don’t see him being as easy to replace as so many say.

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Is this from the same guy who had Hyam as the third best central defender in the league
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #72
Grendel said:
Is this from the same guy who had Hyam as the third best central defender in the league
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Statistics/data has its place in the modern game but I would only use them to back up what I see with my eyes really
 

Frostie

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #73
Grendel said:
Is this from the same guy who had Hyam as the third best central defender in the league
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Not really no. It was to fit certain criteria & identify a particular type of CB which weighted ball carrying & ball playing over the defensive side of the game hence Hyam scoring better than you might expect. He actually ranks just below the average for aerial duels etc.

 
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Frostie

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #74
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Statistics/data has its place in the modern game but I would only use them to back up what I see with my eyes really
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100% or vice versa, to identify potential targets to then be scouted in person. This is how the majority of clubs work.
 

Grendel

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #75
Frostie said:
100% or vice versa, to identify potential targets to then be scouted in person. This is how the majority of clubs work.
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Did we use data to sign hillsner jobello Da Costa and Kastaneer?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #76
Grendel said:
Did we use data to sign hillsner jobello Da Costa and Kastaneer?
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Not sure but Robins has said he will be going to watch potential foreign signings in person now
 

1ccfc

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2022
  • #77
It does come across sometimes as if the signings are not chosen by MR but by the recruitment team. He tells them what we need and they try and fill the gap. Also if the recruitment team see value in a player like Cashman then they try and sign them.
 
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Moff

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #78
Grendel said:
Did we use data to sign hillsner jobello Da Costa and Kastaneer?
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Bloody hell G, you really are the Victor Meldrew of this forum.
 

Frostie

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #79
Grendel said:
Did we use data to sign hillsner jobello Da Costa and Kastaneer?
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I assume it played a part, in exactly the same way as it would have with Hamer & to a point Gyökeres, Sheaf etc etc.
I know Jobello was identified by one of the scouts whilst watching games in France though rather than initially flagged by data.

1ccfc said:
It does come across sometimes as if the signings are not chosen by MR but by the recruitment team. He tells them what we need and they try and fill the gap. Also if the recruitment team see value in a player like Cashman then they try and sign them.
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To a point yes, same as at most top clubs now. The difference with us is Robins always has the final say (except for U23 signings like Cashman, McCallum etc which he allows the relevant Academy staff to sign off on). He has always been a big advocate of watching players himself though &, as STP says, will be looking to step that up with any possible foreign signings to try & avoid anymore missteps but it's far from an exact science & we get far more right than wrong.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #80
harvey098 said:
Quite interesting. I bet he would’ve been very close to being in the very middle too. Still impressive though. I don’t see him being as easy to replace as so many say.

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I see Crooks does well, it's a shame we didn't pick him up in the summer as there was a rumour on here at one point we were looking at him
 
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better days

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #81
Frostie said:
I assume it played a part, in exactly the same way as it would have with Hamer & to a point Gyökeres, Sheaf etc etc.
I know Jobello was identified by one of the scouts whilst watching games in France though rather than initially flagged by data.



To a point yes, same as at most top clubs now. The difference with us is Robins always has the final say (except for U23 signings like Cashman, McCallum etc which he allows the relevant Academy staff to sign off on). He has always been a big advocate of watching players himself though &, as STP says, will be looking to step that up with any possible foreign signings to try & avoid anymore missteps but it's far from an exact science & we get far more right than wrong.
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He's already started doing it I believe
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #82
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Not sure but Robins has said he will be going to watch potential foreign signings in person now
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I've heard that he has been overseas doing just that recently
 
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Grendel

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #83
1ccfc said:
It does come across sometimes as if the signings are not chosen by MR but by the recruitment team. He tells them what we need and they try and fill the gap. Also if the recruitment team see value in a player like Cashman then they try and sign them.
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I would assume waghorn was a robins signing
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #84
Moff said:
Bloody hell G, you really are the Victor Meldrew of this forum.
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South West Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2022
  • #85
slowpoke said:
I don’t want any of our better players to leave unless every penny went into MRs budget, but if one did & I’m thinking Hamer I’d love us to make a serious attempt for Joe Rothwell as a replacement, top player, would cost wage wise but could help make us serious prospects next season.
I like PNEs Daniel Johnson too.
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I’ve seen Daniel Johnson play several times as well, and have always been impressed. Tries to get his team on the front foot quickly and good passing range.
More limited than Hamer, but still a decent player who I’d be happy to have.
 
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Home and Away!

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  • May 6, 2022
  • #86
Sorry,but this needs to be on every thread!!!!!!


What a season it's been......
 

CDK

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2022
  • #87
Hamer and COH gonna be difficult to replace probably then Viktor as a striker will attract the highest bidder and if Fulham make a bid it will be a big one for city will be unable to ignore.
 

Great_Expectations

Well-Known Member
  • May 7, 2022
  • #88
Said it a while back and nothing has changed; Hamer for me.

He has the ability to be our absolute stand out, and a game changer, and when he’s on it, it’s impressive. But he isn’t anywhere near enough. He’s also the most easily replaceable.

In terms of the others COH is absolutely pivotal to how we play. His goal scoring is an issue, but even so he changes games and constantly worries opposition.

Gyokeres is a complete striker and the best I’ve seen for a long long time. He can do everything and he scares defenders. Plus his trajectory will only continue.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • May 8, 2022
  • #89
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Statistics/data has its place in the modern game but I would only use them to back up what I see with my eyes really
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Don't worry, one of our resident statistics gurus will be along in a minute to post something they found on a BTEC's student's twitter account.
 
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