Where's those figures? (1 Viewer)

Astute said:

Which as we worked out before was cheaper than a season ticket. Much cheaper than a single ticket. What we agreed on was more than half the crowd would have to be disabled with a carer going in or young kids with very deep voices

Or was it your accountant?

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I know you constantly deny this - why what are you suggesting - the prior board was fraudulently not declared true revenue?

There is no argument -- it is broadly a correct figure for home attending non-corporate fans.

What it tells us is that the club could not fill the stadium above its natural levels without large amounts of free/cheap tickets

It tells us a stadium of around 18 - 20,000 is perfectly acceptable

ohitsaidwalker king power said:

Sorry deleted it- its speculative and assumes constants to offer parity to the argument- did this a while ago... here it is again- opens the door to the usual criticisms I guess? Can flex it many ways- non of which though establish the move as credible in my mind?

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Grendel said:

We managed £5,2 million income from gates when we had 21,000 - I'm glad you are not my accountant

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As I said, speculative, and open to criticism- which I am Ok with - not withstanding all of the +'s and -'s which we can argue all day long about... can anyone portray any balance sheet supportive in a business sense of the move? (awaits standard "long term view" response)

G as ever you never fail to dissapoint ....

bigfatronssba said:

Your been a bit generous there. £20 ticket at the Ricoh, nearer £13 at sixfields.

Also you left out pitch side advertising revenue of which the club kept 100% of at the Ricoh.

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I'm a generous man BFRSBA- within reason..

How many years in our new (made up) sustainable home, somewhere in Warwickshire, will we need to be before we wipe out the £50 million (5 years of lost revenue @ £4m plus £30M for a new stadium)? 50, 75, 100 years?

The Football League - hang your heads for allowing this to happen.

OK so adjust everything to £9.95 a person. For arguments sake lets say that is the case for both sixfields and the Ricoh:

2500 fans at sixfields at £9.95 each + £3 per head F&B = £24875 + £7500 = £32,375 per game.

10000 fans at the Ricoh at £9.95 each + £0 per head F&B = £99,500 per game

Just the 23 home league games would make it:

Sixfields = £744,625 a year
Ricoh = £2,288,500 a year

If rent was agreed at £150,000 a year for sixfields and £400,000 a year at the Ricoh then Ratio is:

Sixfields = 4.96:1
Ricoh = 5.72:1

Or if you want to look at it another way, the "profit" (obviously not profit but you get the idea) is:

Sixfields: £744,625 - £150,000 = £594,625
Ricoh: £2,288,500 - £400,000 = £1,888,500

Now if they had accepted the 10 year deal (just to make you all happy - the one not offered legally) of £150,000 a year (based on us staying in league 1) and only stayed for 5 years to build a new stadium, resulting in a (possible) £1,000,000 charge for each year they broke the lease then it would look something like this:

Sixfields - £744,625 a season x 5 = £3,723,125
Ricoh - £2,288,500 a season x 5 = £11,442,500

take off the rent

sixfields - £3,723,125 - (5 x £150,000) = £2,973,125
Ricoh - £11,442,500 - (10 x £150,000) = £9,942,500

ACL charge the £1,000,000 per year the lease is broken. 5 x £1,000,000 is £5,000,000.

£9,942,500 - £5,000,000 = £4,942,500.


Still very simple. But the answer always comes out the same!

We all know the figures don't stack up, and that moving to Northampton makes no financial sense. But why would you want the club to hand ACL (possible) £5m free money for breaking the lease early? If you include the F&B's to what ACL would be making then they would be making £10m+ from a 5 year deal, in which would be x2 of what we would have after paying the rent and the (possible) £5m breakout penalty.

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stupot07 said:

We all know the figures don't stack up, and that moving to Northampton makes no financial sense. But why would you want the club to hand ACL (possible) £5m free money for breaking the lease early? If you include the F&B's to what ACL would be making then they would be making £10m+ from a 5 year deal, in which would be x2 of what we would have after paying the rent and the (possible) £5m breakout penalty.

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Nobody would want to hand ACL £5mill for breaking the lease early. That isn't what I was saying. I was merely pointing out that IF that were the case I believe they would still make more money than if they stayed at sixfields.

Also £1mill per year it is broken was just a figure I made up.